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[Tempatan] Edisi fitnah : Dalam kristian tiada kasta!

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Post time 8-2-2018 12:55 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Defcon2 replied at 8-2-2018 12:52 PM
Hai panggil geng nampak? Kenapa? Tak mampu berdiri atas kaki sendiri ke?

Ada ke Nabi Isa a.s pe ...

Kalau ko bukan Kristian tak perlulah nak fitnah or buat tafsiran sembarangan terhadap agama Kristian.... Kang org serang ugama ko, ko sentap Dan terhina kehulu kehilir...
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Post time 8-2-2018 12:57 PM | Show all posts
Redskin replied at 8-2-2018 12:49 PM
Yg bahalolnya pompuan2 kapir lehnat SUKA diexploitasikan
oleh lelaki..menonong ajer ikut, suruh k ...

ini masalah turun temurun

pader2 ni masa kecik2 dulu kena suntot, dah jadi pader, dorang plakkk menyuntot

masalah suntot menyuntot geng2 peliwat digereja ni akan berterusan sampai kiamat










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Post time 8-2-2018 01:02 PM | Show all posts
Defcon2 replied at 8-2-2018 12:52 PM
Hai panggil geng nampak? Kenapa? Tak mampu berdiri atas kaki sendiri ke?

Ada ke Nabi Isa a.s pe ...

teruk la kau ni, cakap pasal kristian

kan dah sekor kaperrr tu mengelupurrr cam kena suntot

kechian la kat dia sikittt








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Post time 8-2-2018 02:25 PM | Show all posts
lkick2113 replied at 8-2-2018 12:55 PM
Kalau ko bukan Kristian tak perlulah nak fitnah or buat tafsiran sembarangan terhadap agama Kristi ...

Aku bukan fitnah.

Atas tu aku tanya ada ke dalam bible Nabi Isa a.s. kata  "Akulah tuhan, sembahlah aku"?

Kalau ada, bagitahulah aku. Surah mana? Ayat mana? Malam ni juga aku rela dibaptiskan.

Kalau takde, mungkin selama ni kau dah kena tipu dengan pihak gereja.   
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Post time 8-2-2018 02:27 PM | Show all posts
tudunglitup replied at 8-2-2018 01:02 PM
teruk la kau ni, cakap pasal kristian

kan dah sekor kaperrr tu mengelupurrr cam kena suntot

Alah gurau sikit takkan tak boleh.

Sensitif betul geng pengganas Kristian dan anti Islam ni. Sampai nak bergurau sikit pun tak boleh.



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Post time 8-2-2018 03:13 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
dargo replied at 8-2-2018 11:06 AM
kah kah kah..... paderi @maideen sentap dah kena coet sikit pon dah meroyan geng kristian kaki kutuk ...

Pe hal ko tag aku lava?
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Post time 8-2-2018 05:40 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by chazey at 8-2-2018 05:49 PM
Defcon2 replied at 8-2-2018 09:48 AM
Yang penting dalam bible Nabi Isa a.s. tak pernah kata "Akulah tuhan dan semua orang kena sembah aku ...


Say what?

Celaka macam Hadi dok dengar klaim dari setad lain tak pernah baca sundri Bible tak tahu kewujudan ayat Yohanes @ John 14:6 di mana Yesua berkata: “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me' ?

Tak pernah tahu juga kan Jesus hada berkata dia dengan Elohim adelah satu dalam verse di bawah?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/%3fsearch=John+10:24-33&version=NIV&interface=amp
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Post time 8-2-2018 06:08 PM | Show all posts
lkick2113 replied at 8-2-2018 12:55 PM
Kalau ko bukan Kristian tak perlulah nak fitnah or buat tafsiran sembarangan terhadap agama Kristi ...

anti-islam je yg bleh buat tafsiran pasal islam ye?

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Post time 8-2-2018 06:16 PM | Show all posts
jom layan bedio sblm tred kene kunci

jgn lupa baca komen kat youtube tu jugak ye.

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Post time 8-2-2018 06:21 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
ualamak dan ustaz tak maksum?  cuba kau kritik ustaz/ulamak, mesri ada malaun akan balaas.. ilmu kau tara mana? hahaha
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Post time 9-2-2018 11:17 AM | Show all posts
Edited by sofea_uk at 9-2-2018 11:20 AM
xy_daen replied at 8-2-2018 11:53 AM
Saolah2 wanita ni cuma objek seksual di mata lelaki Muslim ye Deen....

Wanita cuma sex objek dimata lelaki Muslim???

You must be kidding..Muslim yg suruh pompuan berbungkos
tak nampak and you boleh kata wanita sex objek.

Sis ni mabok ke apa??

Deen ?? Deen yg mana satu ni ??

Abam Deeen yg pakar mengulom totey2 tak bersunat dan
pakar menelan tahi2 palat yg selalu kongsi pengalaman beliau..Ooooo.


Taraf wanita adalah dibawah tapak kaki sahaja sebab Jesus memanggil ibunya
‘Woman’ suatu ungkapan yg BIADAP terhadap seorang IBU seperti masa kini
kata “Pompuan, apa kena mengena ini dgn kami???”

andJesus and His disciples had also been invited to the wedding. 3When the wine ran out,Jesus’ mother said to Him, “They have no morewine.” 4 “Woman, why does this concern us?” Jesus replied. “My hour has not yet come.” (John2:2-4)





Bible memartabatkan wanita la sangat…phuuii




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Post time 9-2-2018 11:29 AM | Show all posts
Edited by sofea_uk at 9-2-2018 11:33 AM

Hadi berkata dlm pembentukan kabinet PAS menurut Islam tiada kasta sepeti dlm agama Hindu dan Kistian.
Seorang ulamak pon tak lepas dari membuat kesilapan.

Bukannya dia hendak menghina agama tersebut TAPI hakikatnya memang ada KASTA AGAMA.

Taraf  Pope, paderi dan penganut berbeza2.

Taraf Pope dah macam Tohan.

Paderi boleh mengampunkan dosa orglain.

Taraf penganut2nya berbeza..Kistian kulit putih dgn Kistian kulit
Hitam berkerak laaennn..

Taraf  org2 lelaki dibawah Jesus.

Taraf org2 pompuan low class dibawah Lelaki.

Tapi kaper2 lahanat kata Kistian memartabatkan wanita…hahaha pooorahhhcitt




Hadi tidak bersalah bila mengatakan ada Kasta Agama dlm Kistian…


Terimala hakikatnya bukan nak menghina tapi suatu KENYATAAN BENAR.






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Post time 9-2-2018 02:31 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by chazey at 9-2-2018 05:28 PM
bangcak replied at 8-2-2018 06:16 PM
jom layan bedio sblm tred kene kunci

jgn lupa baca komen kat youtube tu jugak ye.


Kamon, takat bidyo gini?

Nampak tak persamaan perangai penganut2 agama Samawi ni?

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Post time 9-2-2018 03:32 PM | Show all posts
Edited by mashimaru83 at 9-2-2018 03:33 PM
chazey replied at 8-2-2018 05:40 PM
Say what?

Celaka macam Hadi dok dengar klaim dari setad lain tak pernah baca sundri Bible tak ...
chazey
Tak pernah tahu juga kan Jesus hada berkata dia dengan Elohim adelah satu dalam verse di bawah?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www ... n=NIV&interface=amp
Apa pendapat chazey mengenai John 17:21?

http://biblehub.com/niv/john/17.htm
20: My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,
21: that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

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Post time 9-2-2018 03:40 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by chazey at 9-2-2018 03:41 PM
mashimaru83 replied at 9-2-2018 03:32 PM
Apa pendapat chazey mengenai John 17:21?

http://biblehub.com/niv/john/17.htm


Pendapat camna chuol nak ni Mashi? Akak lehat dalam ayat yanv uol underline tu Jesus dengan jelas mengakui heol anak Tuhan @ Elohim? Karna itu Yahudi tapuas hati lalu pi bunoh beliau atas tuduhan blasphemy (i.e. menyekutukan diri dengan Elohim)?
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Post time 9-2-2018 03:47 PM | Show all posts
chazey replied at 9-2-2018 02:31 PM
Kamon, takat bidyo gini?

takdpt tgk la.
tolong paste link
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Post time 9-2-2018 04:00 PM | Show all posts
chazey replied at 9-2-2018 03:40 PM
Pendapat camna chuol nak ni Mashi? Akak lehat dalam ayat yanv uol underline tu Jesus dengan jela ...
chazey
Tak pernah tahu juga kan Jesus hada berkata dia dengan Elohim adelah satu dalam verse di bawah?
21: that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

Apa beza "Jesus dgn Elohim adalah satu" vs. "All of them may be one (satu)". Apa maksud 'satu' tersebut?

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Post time 9-2-2018 04:06 PM | Show all posts
chazey replied at 8-2-2018 05:40 PM
Say what?

Celaka macam Hadi dok dengar klaim dari setad lain tak pernah baca sundri Bible tak ...

Dia tak kata pun " I am God, please worship me".

Sebaliknya Nabi Isa a.s. kata, dia sendiri tiada kuasa dan terpaksa bergantung pada kuasa lain. Rujuk [John; 5.30]  "I can't do anything by myself. Whatever I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just. I don't seek my own will but the will of the one who sent me."

Link yang kau bagi tak boleh bukak pun.  

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Post time 9-2-2018 04:13 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Defcon2 replied at 8-2-2018 11:36 AM
Tolak politik ke tepi.

Pada pandangan aku memang ada sistem kasta dalam agama Kristian. Sebab pa ...


Oh begitu. Walaupun saya byk membaca tentang pandangan2, debat dan perbincangan tentang hal begini, saya tak dpt nak komen lanjut atau mengupas secara mendalam sbb saya tidak beragama Kristian dan lebih utama lagi, saya tidak mengaji dlm bidang agama Kristian dan tak pernah berguru dgn mana2 pendeta Kristian.

Sama mcm org bukan Islam atau Muslim sekalipun yg mengkritik mcm2 kpd agama Islam tanpa kelulusan yg berkenaan sering dicerca oleh umat Islam kerana dilihat tak layak mengkritik tanpa pengetahuan yg lengkap dan mendalami selok belok agama, walaupun mereka quote pelbagai ulama dan org yg terpelajar dlm agama Islam.
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Post time 9-2-2018 05:19 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
mashimaru83 replied at 9-2-2018 04:00 PM
21: that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be i ...
21: that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

Apa beza "Jesus dgn Elohim adalah satu" vs. "All of them may be one (satu)". Apa maksud 'satu' tersebut?


Ni rupanya yang chuol tafaham.

That all of them may be one

All of them = gereja @ jemaat Kristos
one = bersatu @ unite

Just as you are in me and I am in you = seperti tuhan bapa (you) dan tuhan anak (I) adalah Satu @ bersatu (i.e. konsep trinity = different individuals united as one).


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