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Edisi fitnah : Dalam kristian tiada kasta!
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sam1528 replied at 11-2-2018 11:33 AM
Ha ha ... cikgu chazey yg tak tau beza antara Quran & hadith
Kalau nak pengakuan Nabi Muhammad( ...
Dah la bodo, kaki fitnah pula. Pastu ada hati nak jadik pakar Bible walau tak pernah study Bible dari kecik.
Hadith? Mana aku taip pasal hadith dalam ayat di bawah?
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Ha ha ... cikgu chazey dah terlampau konfius
You are soooo clueless ....
#facepalm.
THE HOLY ONE OF GOD = THE HOLY ONE THAT COMES FROM GOD lah. Camna ko boleh konar frasa ni kununnya orang alim yang ada relationship dengan God? Orang alim (dalam agama Samawi) pun tak gelar diri dia holy ok? Ada ko pernah baca mana2 nabi dalam Islam ngaku holy? Nabi Muhammad ada kata dia holy ka Sam?
THE HOLY ONE OF GOD = THE HOLY ONE THAT COMES FROM GOD
Ko hanya kontradik diri sendiri .... you are sooo clueless
Aku dah jawab soalan ko pasal pengakuan holy ni. Kalo ko tak baca , problem ko. Skg aku pulak tanya , bagi lah bukti Nabi Muhammad(saw) mengaku diri dia tu holy.
Di sini dah terserlah kebodohan ko sebagai born Moslem yang tak tahu apa2 pasal konsep triniti tapi berlagak macam ko yang paling faham.
Sapa kata Jesus tak ada relationship with God, as a God? Itu barangkali fahaman seorang born Moslem, bukan born Kristian.
Jesus is the Son of God. As a Son, He has a relationship with the Father and the Holy Spirit. We humans, as our fathers' children, surely have a relationship with our earthly fathers, no? So does Jesus? Bagaimana boleh turunnya ayat "INILAH ANAK KU YANG KU KASIHI, KEPADANYALAH AKU BERKENAN" (Google sindri hapa verse) dari God the Father jika God thr Father takda relationship dengan Jesus? Camana someone boleh mengasihi someone tanpa mengenali that someone?
But sah2 la aku explain panjang lebar pasal ni pun ko takkan faham pasal ni sebab ko tak pernah blaja tentang Jesus dari kecik dan sembah Jesus sebagai Tuhan. Tapi ada hati nak berhujah seolah dia paling pakar pasal Bible. Pght.
Ha ha ha ha ... Trinity? 1 God , 3 distinct persons - God the Father is God , God the Son is God , God the Holy Spirit is God.
Ok , spt ko klaim : Son ada relationship dgn Father & Holy Spirit tapi ia relationship between the 3 cosubstantial persons which make up the Trinity.
God dlm Trinity adalah gabungan 3 persons tersebut , jadik macamana biblical Jesus ada relationship dgn diri dia sendiri iaitu salah satu dari 3 persons dlm God Head Trinity.
Jelaskan lah , ko dah kontradik diri sendiri
He he he he ... cikgu chazey dah mental. Soalan senang aje (bukan aku tanya pon): mana dia dlm bible , biblical Jesus mengaku tuhan & mintak disembah.
Ko berpusing dari satu ayat ke satu ayat lain & lepas tu mula membohong
Tetiba jadik emotional pulak kata berhujah macam pakar bible. Kalo tak tau mengaku aje dari ko malukan diri sendiri. Apa aku bawak adalah rujukkan bible & kommentar bible manakala ko hanya bagi pendapat ko .... yg failed english
Kah kah kah ... cikgui chazey yg dah mental & soooo clueless
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Aerhys replied at 11-2-2018 12:46 PM
In the end atheists juga yg bersorak bertepuk tangan melihat orang bergaduh mengenai agama masing2 ...
Ini bukan pasal nak menangkan Jesus or Kristian but to just to point out betapa kaki fitnahnya umat Islam ini tuduh dalam Bible Jesus takda ngaku Tuhan padahal banyak jah ayat heol claimed to be equal with God. Akak bukan Kristian pon. Nyampah dengan Moslem dok klaim itu ini jah.  |
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Ha ha ... ko dah terlampau terdesak lah cikgu chazey
Ko mintah ayat Quran .... dah bagi pon
Apa lagi yg ko nak
Selalunya org yg dah kantoi akan jadik emotional macam ko
Kah kah kah .... you are soooo clueless
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sam1528 replied at 11-2-2018 12:54 PM
Ha ha ... ko dah terlampau terdesak lah cikgu chazey
Ko mintah ayat Quran .... dah bagi pon
Apa yang ko bagi? Aku mintak ayat dari Quran di mana Nabi Muhammad mengaku nabi.
Mana ayat tu, directly from Nabi Muhammad's mouth, saying he is a messenger of Allah? |
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sam1528 replied at 11-2-2018 12:52 PM
Ha ha ... cikgu chazey dah terlampau konfius
You are soooo clueless ....
Astaga.
Bodoh. |
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kaum kaum hidung kemek dok gaduh pasal agama org yg jaraknya beribu batu dari nusantara |
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Interesting masing percaya scriptures tentang kononnya kebenaran wujud tuhan ... end up bergaduh tentang manusia saja di panggil nabi ,anak tuhan, divine whatsoever ... tuhan mungkin senyum jah... kecerdikan penganut ... |
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sam1528 replied at 11-2-2018 12:52 PM
Ha ha ... cikgu chazey dah terlampau konfius
You are soooo clueless ....
Relationship with God as a God? Ko ni cakap bahasa apa? Bahasa org mabuk ketum kot?
Ha ha ha ha ... Trinity? 1 God , 3 distinct persons - God the Father is God , God the Son is God , God the Holy Spirit is God.
Ok , spt ko klaim : Son ada relationship dgn Father & Holy Spirit tapi ia relationship between the 3 cosubstantial persons which make up the Trinity.
God dlm Trinity adalah gabungan 3 persons tersebut , jadik macamana biblical Jesus ada relationship dgn diri dia sendiri iaitu salah satu dari 3 persons dlm God Head Trinity.
Ko tak baca lansung ke segala ayat Biblos yang aku tepek tu? Kita bercakap pasal trinity dalam Bible, bukan trinity ikut kefahaman ko, ok?
Ko kata:
Relationship with God as a God? Ko ni cakap bahasa apa? Bahasa org mabuk ketum kot?
Wtf? Cubaan konar ka apa ni? Motif ko tak faham apa yang ko baca? Ko yang mabuk ketum ka apa ni?
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chazey replied at 11-2-2018 12:54 PM
Ini bukan pasal nak menangkan Jesus or Kristian but to just to point out betapa kaki fitnahnya uma ...
Hahahha if thats the case then my hats off to you sis sebab buat fair judgement tak macam kebanyakan puak holier than thou tu 
Dari penulisan sis pun sy tau you are a well educated and rational human being tak macam sorang lagi tu... Waste of space je  |
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sekngucing replied at 11-2-2018 01:01 PM
kaum kaum hidung kemek dok gaduh pasal agama org yg jaraknya beribu batu dari nusantara
Sekali sekala layan lowbowdo Sam. |
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Ha ha ... cikgu chazey lari pulak ke john10
Ha ha ha ha ... I and the Father are 1 ni kira2 biblical Jesus ni tuhan lah
Kat sini biblical Jesus klaim equality dgn God? You must be out of your mind
Cuba ko baca dari ayat 25 , pasal apa ia bukan 1 in purpose? Biblical Jesus dah dah kata yg dia buat keje atas nama Father
This is interesting pada john10:28
I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.
Bzzzt!! Wrong , definisi bible ttg eternal life pada john17:3 (bible NIV)
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
Jadik john10:30 ni bukanlah biblical Jesus samakan diri dia dgn God tapi ia hanya 1 in purpose spt dijelaskan kat john17:3
Kah kah kah .... cikgu chazey dah blur
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Ha ha ... cikgu chazey dah pening
Ini aje jawapan ko? Macam ni ko dah fail jadik cikgu
Kah kah kah ... konar punya konar , dah tertunggeng
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sam1528 replied at 11-2-2018 12:08 PM
Ha ha ... cikgu chazey yg dah terlampau konfius & clueless
Deuteronomy tu bukan dari bible ke? ...
Bila masa ko bagitau aku aku akan have a hard time? Hello? And am I really having a hard time? Khak tuih la. Perasan. So tipikal of lobais and lobainitas benak.
Bila masa aku kata Deuteronomy bukan ayat Bible? Gila. Ko ada baca ka tak sebenarnya apa aku tulis?
Apa yang aku bohongkan?
Ni pemahaman ko, yang bokan Bible scholar pon untuk klaim gitu. Ya ampun.
Hello, may I remind you that the Christians believe in trinitarian divinity?
Sebab itu Jesus dibunuh oleh mereka di dalam Bible. |
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sam1528 replied at 11-2-2018 01:15 PM
Ha ha ... cikgu chazey dah pening
Ini aje jawapan ko? Macam ni ko dah fail jadik cikgu
Ko asyik minta aku ayat dalam Bible Jesus kata dia Tuhan, aku dah bagi banyak verses di mana Jesus ngaku dia equal dengan God, siap pengakuan dari mulut Thomas kata Jesus my Lord, my God, dan Jesus tak deny. Ko ada baca ke tak?
Sekarang aku mintak ko bagi ayat dari Quran di mana Nabi Muhammad sendiri ngaku rasul Allah, tepek sini. Bukan hadith, Quran. |
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Aerhys replied at 11-2-2018 01:05 PM
Hahahha if thats the case then my hats off to you sis sebab buat fair judgement tak macam kebanyak ...
I macam nak biar jah si luncai tu terjun dengan labu-labunya. Biarlah dia ingat dia dah menang. |
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Ha ha ... cikgu chazey belajar Islam dari gereja ke
Kan pada Quran7:58 ada perkataan قُلْ
Jadik ia adalah perintah Allah utk Nabi Muhammad(saw) utk mengaku diri dia Nabi & Rasul
Kalo Nabi Muhammad(saw) yg cakap atas perintah Allah .... tak ke tersebut keluar dari mulut Nabi Muhammad(saw). Macamana yg ko boleh dgn kureng cerdik kata :
"Because afterall, in your Quran , Muhammad never says out of his mouth, about himself, 'I am a prophet'. It's your Allah who said it" (0:33-0:42).
Kah kah kah ... ko dah terdesak lah cikgu chazey
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Tipikal lobai kak, mereka terlalu bodoh sebenarnya tetapi nak tunjuk cerdik. Jadi terpaksalah memutarbelitkan fakta supaya nampak cerdik. Tetapi apa yang mereka copypaste tu pun mereka tak faham.
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Edited by enhe.duanna at 11-2-2018 01:49 PM
sam1528 replied at 11-2-2018 01:23 PM
Ha ha ... cikgu chazey belajar Islam dari gereja ke
Kan pada Quran7:58 ada perkataan  ...
Sam u percaya perkataan yang di keluarkan oleh manusia itu sendiri dan claimed sendiri adalah benar adalah wahyu dari tuhan ?
Thomas paine nampak lebih bijak di situ |
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Ha ha .. cikgu chazey yg masih tak paham bible
Ko bagi contoh dari mark5:21-43 & klaim Jesus tuhan pasal dia tak berdoa dulu
This is what we call argument from silence. Ok then , kita rujuk kat john11:38-43 (bible NIV) dimana biblical Jesus hidupkan Lazarus
41 So they took away the stone. Then Jesus looked up and said, “Father, I thank you that you have heard me.
42 I knew that you always hear me, but I said this for the benefit of the people standing here, that they may believe that you sent me.”
Kot2 , pada satu masa dia God & masa lain bukan God ... macam ni ke?
Tu lah aku kat ko ni dah fail english
John1:14 (bible NIV)
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
word became flesh = word
Ni dia pejlelasan ttg logos
This identification of Jesus with the logos is based on Old Testament concepts of revelation, such as occurs in the frequently used phrase “the Word of the Lord”—which connoted ideas of God’s activity and power—and the Jewish view that Wisdom is the divine agent that draws man to God and is identified with the word of God.
Word become flesh adalah attribute of God tersebut yg dijadikan manusia iaitu biblical Jesus
Macamana attribute of God adalah God?
Ko betul2 fail english lah cikgu chazey
Kah kah kah ..... cikgu chazey yg kureng fasih english
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