AUSTRALIA..hey mate..

mbhcsf

salam and hi all..
okay guys let us have an intelectual discussion or forum about  an island continent  named AUSTRALIA.
Discovered by James Cook and his gangs and was initialy labelled as i cannot rememeber but something  like this "......centralis incognito and ....." this island continent is known to be quite unique right, in trems of  its flora and fauna , the reefs ..etc..the climate ..the physical geog....

so any one would like to discuss anything about Australia?

jusy anything ..like ayers rock- the biggest pebble in the world...
the island that has many "climates"...

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kulit

what about the poisonous flora and fauna (sea or land) of Australia? a little bit malas at the moment..hehe...sat lagi la..

mbhcsf

anything..about Australia..

Remy_3D

how about First Humans in Australia

mbhcsf

you mean the Aborigines ?
Org asli Australia?
pernah dengar dingo = a dog like animal yg being introduced by the  colony?
lagi satu

Platypus?

wombat?

kanggaroo?

TASMANIAN DEVIL ..sapa nak bincang saya bagi idea jer....

Apa yg saya belajar ialah Australia's history is shaped alot by its Geography.. It is also believed that Geography  has been a force that has shaped History too.. Australia is unique in that there are elements of geographical determinism in the work of different Australian historians and writer.....

To understand the evolution of Australia , try and read these 3 books.  They give the different perspective of Australia and its development....

1. Russel Ward , The Australian Legend (1958).

2. Geoffrey Blainey , The Tyranny of Distance (1966).

3. Donald Horne , The Lucky Country (1964).

Even though the books may be printed yearssssss ago , but these books are the "must read" in order to understand Australia..........

eva

Originally posted by mbhcsf at 14-6-2004 18:36:
you mean the Aborigines ?
Org asli Australia?
pernah dengar dingo = a dog like animal yg being introduced by the  colony?
lagi satu

Platypus?

wombat?

kanggaroo?

TASMANIAN DEVIL ..sa ...

dingo?? yeap i heard about dingo ...
there's a true story movie about a couple whose lost their baby gal because of a dingo... dingo makan anak dorang...
ermm pelakon citer tu Sam O Neil..  citer tu really gud...

mbhcsf

Originally posted by PeNinGLaLaT at 2004-6-15 12:46:
Apa yg saya belajar ialah Australia's history is shaped alot by its Geography.. It is also believed that Geography  has been a force that has shaped History too.. Australia is unique ...

would you like to share with us her , then..
it would be kindly appreaciated

Originally posted by mbhcsf at 16-6-2004 12:59 AM:

would you like to share with us her , then..
it would be kindly appreaciated

Insya-Allah I will...bit by bit.....

mbhcsf

Originally posted by eva at 2004-6-15 20:51:


dingo?? yeap i heard about dingo ...
there's a true story movie about a couple whose lost their baby gal because of a dingo... dingo makan anak dorang...
ermm pelakon citer tu Sam O Neil ...

binatang ni dibawa dari immigrant asal untuk selamtakan tanaman mereka dari  rabbit ker aper ker ..tapi tulah  dah ganggu ecosystem .

alphawolf

Dingo bukan dibawa oleh omputih, dingo asalnya anjing peliharaan orang Aborigines yang dibawa mereka apabila berhijrah ke Australia thousands of years ago. Rabbit pulak mmg dibawa omputih, utk sumber makanan kalau tak salah aku...tapi bila terlepasa bebas, dia jadi nuisance dan membahayakan penghuni asal Australia.

Banyak penghuni unik Australia yang takde di mana2 benua lain....binatang yang paling bisa pun banyak kat OZ ni macam Ular laut, ular Taipan, box jellyfish.

Pasal nama yang diberi pnjelajah awal...ada jugak nama terra australis entah ape kemende...somebody please help

mbhcsf

oh " box" jelly fish???

is it Portuguese MAn  "o" war???

amorist

James Cook did not discover Australia. When he got there, the aborigines were already there.

mbhcsf

Originally posted by alphawolf at 2004-6-16 09:18:
Dingo bukan dibawa oleh omputih, dingo asalnya anjing peliharaan orang Aborigines yang dibawa mereka apabila berhijrah ke Australia thousands of years ago. Rabbit pulak mmg dibawa omputih, utk sumb ...

hmm ..tapi menurut my source whi ch is only a bio STPM book Peter Chen , he said that dingo dibawa ke Australia oleh manusia. Tanpa persaingan daripada haiwan marsupial telah berkembang kepada pelbagai jenis.

Lagi satu ayat yg menarik

" benua ini terpisah sebelum evolusi mamalia berplasenta. Ini menjelaskan as to why you cannot find or discover the "actual"/ real /genuine  placental mammals in Australia apart FROM GUESS What >>>> BATS.

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mbhcsf

Originally posted by amorist at 2004-6-16 22:56:
James Cook did not discover Australia. When he got there, the aborigines were already there.

quite true though if you being politically correct. TQ..again..

any one...else would ilke to add

alphawolf

Originally posted by mbhcsf at 17-6-2004 03:33:

hmm ..tapi menurut my source whi ch is only a bio STPM book Peter Chen , he said that dingo dibawa ke Australia oleh manusia. Tanpa persaingan daripada haiwan marsupial telah berkembang kepada pe ...

Errr Aborigines yang mula2 tiba di Australia bukan manusia jugak ke mbhcsf?

alphawolf

Originally posted by mbhcsf at 16-6-2004 22:50:
oh " box" jelly fish???

is it Portuguese MAn  "o" war???

Nope...

This is Portuguese Man-O-War



Toxic/poisonous animal. Sting from tentacles will cause painful blisters and welting. tentacles  can grow up to 30 feet. The float (which looks like a 15th century Potuguese helmet) can grow up to 2 inches.


Box jellyfish or sea wasp


Probably the most poisonous marine creature. The box-shaped bell measures 20cm with tentacles growing up to 3 meters. Pale blue and transparent, it is almost invisible in the water. Contact with the tentacles is excruciatingly painful and may lead to death :kant: in a few minutes.Measure of toxicity is based on the length of the tentacle contacting the skin (6-7 meters of tentacle can kill an adult human)  the size of the creature and also the sensitivity of the human skin.

Aborigines are natives to Australia and Tasmania. They have lived there for about 35,000 to 70,000 years. Their skin and hair are both dark. There are about 500 recorded tribes, some of which are Aranda, Bidjandjadjara, Gurindji, Gunwinggu, Kamilaroi, Murngin, Tiwi, Wailbri, Wurora, and Yir-yoront. Aboriginal tribes didn't usually stay in one place for long, moving to watering places and setting up camp there.

Aborigines lived in family groups and clans. Each clan has a place on their land where their spirits return when they die. They have to protect these places so they won't upset their ancestral beings.

The men were custodians, tool-makers, and hunters. The women took care of the children and gathered and fixed their food. The Aborigines used the land wisely and knew when to harvest the many plants they ate. Dingoes guarded their homes and helped the men hunt. The Aborigines were also traders. There were trade routes across the country. They traded stones, shells, boomerangs, and ocher, a yellow paint pigment. Along these trade routes they would have exchange ceremonies where they traded, sang songs, and danced.

The Aborigines were totally isolated until 1788, when the English arrived. Their traditions included music, singing, dancing, and art. They did paintings on dried tree bark with natural black, brown, yellow, white, and sometimes red colors. The paintings were originally used for tribal ceremonies and then destroyed shortly after the ceremonies were finished. In the 1940's, however, the paintings became popular with art collectors and they became more widely made and distributed, provided that there were enough eucalyptus trees in the area because they needed the bark from the tree to draw on.

At the time when Sydney Cove was settled by the British there were 300,000 Aborigines in Australia and about 250 different languages were spoken. Since they didn't have a system of government, no permanent settlement, and no land ownership, the British made them move. Many of the Aborigines got smallpox, measles, venereal disease, influenza, whooping cough, pneumonia, and tuberculosis and died. European invaders cut down forests and brought foreign animals to Australia. By 1860 there were 20 million sheep in Australia. The cattle and sheep destroyed the Aborigines' water holes. White settlers and Aborigines were at war for the land and water. By 1900, traditional Aboriginal society was still in small groups in central and northern Australia.

In the early 1900's, laws to protect the Aborigines were passed in every state. They also made restrictions for the Aborigines on owning land, where they could live, and even to whom they could marry. In 1967 the Australians voted Aborigines real citizens. They were given the same rights as everyone else.

In 1971, Geoffrey Bardon, who had a close relationship with a local tribe, and one of the few non-Aboriginal people who was allowed to take part in the rituals and ceremonies, began painting a wall mural with his students and some tribe members. This was the first example of shared Aboriginal artwork besides bark paintings. After that, the Australian government realized that Aboriginal artwork was a resource and tried to conserve it. This is how they live today and still try to keep their culture alive.

Aborigines, indigenous peoples of Australia. Aboriginal people and Torres Strait Islanders today make up just over 1.5 per cent of the country抯 population.


Australian Aborigines, in common with most indigenous peoples, have strong links to the land and the past. The land is a factor in every action, whether economic, religious, artistic, or legal; in daily life the past is always an important consideration. Aboriginal kinship rules and structures are highly sophisticated, influencing relationships between each and every individual.

mbhcsf

i am not sure whether thsi fact should be called a fact or not but

according to DR Zurina - teh Archaeologist- dia cakap yg KOTA TAMPAN kat Perak tu is believed to be the transit point of those early humans to Australia?
did you happened to tead it somewhere / know it  or anything..
i find this rather interesting..