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[Dunia] Mixed reaction from Hong Kong expats to UK visa offer

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Post time 13-7-2020 12:06 AM | Show all posts |Read mode
Edited by FOTHER-MUCKER at 12-7-2020 08:14 AM


Mixed reaction from Hong Kong expats to UK visa offer
Sunday, 12 Jul 2020 01:34 PM MYT

A pro-democracy demonstrator raises his British National Overseas (BNO) passports during a protest against new national security legislation in Hong Kong, China, June 1, 2020. — Reuters pic


LONDON, July 12 — Hong Kong expatriates living in Britain have welcomed London’s pledge of “a pathway to future citizenship” for millions of the territory’s residents after China imposed a controversial security law there.

But they warned this “message of hope” would not help many, including those born after Hong Kong’s 1997 return to Chinese rule and now aged over 18 — people at the forefront of protests against Beijing.

It is helpful — it sends a strong message of hope to Hong Kongers, many of whom are waiting to be rescued from their city,” a 35-year-old financial analyst living in London since 2005, who asked to remain anonymous, told AFP.
With relatives still in Hong Kong, he is very worried about their fate, especially those of university age.
These guys won’t be helped directly by this but they are the ones who are more vulnerable — they stopped their university degrees to join the movement,” he added, referring to pro-democracy protests that erupted last year.


Beijing enacted the sweeping security law for the restless city of around 7.5 million people on June 30, banning acts of subversion, secession, terrorism and collusion with foreign forces.

The move has sparked international condemnation.
The UK has said in response it will allow anyone with British National (Overseas) (BNO) status and their dependants — husbands, wives, civil partners and children under 18 years old — to come to Britain.

They will be able to remain and work for five years, compared to the current limit of six months, before being able to apply for citizenship.
More than 350,000 people currently have BNO passports, and the government estimates there are around 2.9 million eligible for the status in total in Hong Kong.

Main target
This proposal will definitely help some of the people who fear for their life — at least they have somewhere safe to go,” said Abby Yau, 40, a naturalised British citizen after 19 years in the UK.

But at the same time I wonder how much it will benefit the majority of the people who are oppressed by the (Chinese) government.

Britain created the BNO status ahead of Hong Kong’s 1997 handover, allowing its residents to apply for a form of British nationality and a BNO passport.
But it conferred no automatic right to citizenship, could only be applied for before the end of 1997 and cannot be passed on to future generations.

Critics of Britain’s proposed changes note they still fail to help swathes of people who missed out on that opportunity.
The British government forgets the fact that most of the protesters are from my generation, in particular citizens born between 1997 and 2002,” said another 22-year-old former Hong Kong resident studying in the UK since 2015.

These generations have suffered the most throughout the years and now they are the main target of the (Hong Kong) government.

The British government needs to consider this generation or otherwise, this proposal won’t be meaningful.”
However, he expected “a wave of people fleeing” to Britain once the new immigration measures are formalised.

Social media such as Facebook has been flooded with questions regarding working in the UK,” he added, noting it reflected “how anxious and hopeless Hong Kongers are at the moment”.

Valuable workforce
Yau said she too had been contacted by friends asking about life in Britain, and argued the new arrivals “could be an unbelievably valuable workforce for the UK post-Brexit”.

But she does not expect large numbers to leave Hong Kong, noting not everyone can afford to relocate and navigate Britain’s costly immigration system while others may not want such a different lifestyle.
The 22-year-old Hong Kong emigre echoed the sentiment.

It will be a big challenge and sacrifice for the sandwich-class in Hong Kong as they work hard throughout their entire life to promote their social status,” he said, referring to the city’s middle class.

restarting a new life as second-class citizens, and their social status might be dropped if they are not professional or wealthy.”
Meanwhile the financial analyst who left Hong Kong 15 years ago agreed there will be “reluctance” to start over in Britain, but noted two of his relatives who had long been mulling relocating have finally been convinced by recent events.

Can you call a place home when someone has taken away its core values, freedom and spirit?” he said.
To me, that place ceased to be home — and the real home for Hong Kongers is where we can carry on contributing as a world citizen.” — AFP



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Post time 13-7-2020 12:12 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
UK akan jadi lubuk immigrants pupus bangsa inggeris... Soon immigrants dari amerika akan migrate ke UK termasuk experts...
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Post time 13-7-2020 12:51 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Dwdrum replied at 13-7-2020 12:12 AM
UK akan jadi lubuk immigrants pupus bangsa inggeris... Soon immigrants dari amerika akan migrate ke  ...

Bukan depa pi Kanada ka? Aku baca depa oi Kanada sebab mudah dpt suaka dan juga pass sebagai legal immigrants
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Post time 13-7-2020 01:11 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by Dwdrum at 12-7-2020 09:12 AM
sarah82 replied at 12-7-2020 08:51 AM
Bukan depa pi Kanada ka? Aku baca depa oi Kanada sebab mudah dpt suaka dan juga pass sebagai legal ...


Canada memang selalu offering immigrants dari amerika.. Sector lain aku tidak pasti dalam sector aku ada yang di suspended visa. Dan High tech sector memang affected terutama immigrants dari china dan india...mereka yang mahu amerika dalam bidang high tech mostlu money oriented.. Aku tidak rasa canada right place untuk mereka..uk dan europe next heaven..
Yang aku maksud kan ini bukan immigrants biasa tapi expert working visa..
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Dwdrum replied at 13-7-2020 01:11 AM
Canada memang selalu offering immigrants dari amerika.. Sector lain aku tidak pasti dalam sector ...

Aku faham.. Betul.. Kanada x sekaya US better kerja kat US dari kanada kalau hi tech worker.
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Dwdrum replied at 12-7-2020 04:12 PM
UK akan jadi lubuk immigrants pupus bangsa inggeris... Soon immigrants dari amerika akan migrate ke  ...

Why? Us dah tak selamat, secure?
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sarah82 replied at 12-7-2020 09:15 AM
Aku faham.. Betul.. Kanada x sekaya US better kerja kat US dari kanada kalau hi tech worker.

Bukan sebab us kaya sarah.. Sebab opportunity itu besar... Seperti bidang aku buat 1 hit wonder saja terus boleh retire seumur hidup.. Dan working experience sangat valueable... Europe same thing terutama uk...
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Dwdrum replied at 13-7-2020 01:21 AM
Bukan sebab us kaya sarah.. Sebab opportunity itu besar... Seperti bidang aku buat 1 hit wonder sa ...

Perghhhhh.. Boleh retired dah muda2……
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Post time 13-7-2020 01:27 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
nazzse replied at 12-7-2020 09:20 AM
Why? Us dah tak selamat, secure?

Bukan... Sekarang government mahu buat recovery...ramai sangat jobless.. Job banyak di sangat di bagi kepada immigrants worker.. Mahu kurang kan immigrants worker cuma agriculture.. Food industry dan medical saja immigrants jobs yang secure.. Paling teruk yang akan kena buang bidang it
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Dwdrum replied at 13-7-2020 12:12 AM
UK akan jadi lubuk immigrants pupus bangsa inggeris... Soon immigrants dari amerika akan migrate ke  ...

Tengok jer la Mp UK....penuh yenna. Dari Priti patel, Rishi Sunak,Alok shorma....sampai i tanya British national ni....what happend to your country?
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sarah82 replied at 12-7-2020 09:24 AM
Perghhhhh.. Boleh retired dah muda2……

Jika bidang engineering senang... Tapi bidang aku bila sudah discover sekarang perlu tunggu another 5 to 20 years baru dapat 1 hit wonder.. Sudah kerepot..
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Dwdrum replied at 13-7-2020 01:32 AM
Jika bidang engineering senang... Tapi bidang aku bila sudah discover sekarang perlu tunggu anothe ...

Mana tau.. Ang akan jumpa 2-3 hit wonder dlm masa 5-10tahun ni.. Rezeki kan.. Aku doakan ang dpt hit wonder tu.
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Dwdrum replied at 12-7-2020 05:27 PM
Bukan... Sekarang government mahu buat recovery...ramai sangat jobless.. Job banyak di sangat di b ...

Ohh ok faham..
Maka ramai yg akan migrate ke negara2 maju yg lain kan...last2 negara tu akan jadi mcm US jgk..
Apa pun kena jaga rakyat sendiri dulu
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Post time 13-7-2020 08:46 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
slavehunter replied at 12-7-2020 09:27 AM
Tengok jer la Mp UK....penuh yenna. Dari Priti patel, Rishi Sunak,Alok shorma....sampai i tanya Br ...

Sama di tempat  i well known hitech com. jika cakap uol pun tahu.. letak yenna jadi ceo.. Batalion india masuk... Sudah crisis begini backup kata local talent tiada.. Ramai yang talented cuma tidak di beri peluang asyik ambil bangsa sendiri saja
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Post time 13-7-2020 08:48 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
sarah82 replied at 12-7-2020 09:39 AM
Mana tau.. Ang akan jumpa 2-3 hit wonder dlm masa 5-10tahun ni.. Rezeki kan.. Aku doakan ang dpt h ...

Thanks sarah tapi aku tolong kaya kan capitalist.. Age 48 aku akan resign kerja sendiri..
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Post time 13-7-2020 08:49 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
nazzse replied at 12-7-2020 09:39 AM
Ohh ok faham..
Maka ramai yg akan migrate ke negara2 maju yg lain kan...last2 negara tu akan jad ...

Yup...malaysia juga akan jadi begini bila local professionals tidak di bagi peluang degraded own citizen...
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Post time 13-7-2020 09:09 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Dwdrum replied at 13-7-2020 08:48 AM
Thanks sarah tapi aku tolong kaya kan capitalist.. Age 48 aku akan resign kerja sendiri..

Mana2 pun kapitalis.. Kita bond dgb kapitalis.. X boleh buat mcm mana.. Kalau bhint wonder ty masa kerja sendiri tu kayakan diri sendiri.. Hihihi.
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Dwdrum replied at 13-7-2020 08:46 AM
Sama di tempat  i well known hitech com. jika cakap uol pun tahu.. letak yenna jadi ceo.. Batalion ...

Macam biasa la dah jadi top mesti bawak gang2 dia jugak.
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