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China sahkan antibodi merosot lepas enam bulan suntik dos kedua Sinovac. Perlu c
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biskutsusu replied at 28-7-2021 07:36 AM
Semalam aku pergi ppv di MIECC. Punya la ramai PATI. Dah macam pesta pulak kat luar tu diorang berku ...
yg paling xpuas hati kat kwsn aku ni bangla and the geng dpt pfizer ok.. |
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Edited by antiQue at 28-7-2021 10:21 AM
antibody reduce after 6 months kan, kenapa nak kena booster sekarang? The study shows that the antibody will spike if booster is given 6-8 months after 2nd dose. Those yang buat antibody test lepas 2nd dose shows tak banyak difference pun shows Sinovac is still sufficient... dan tak banyak beza pun dengan pfizer.
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rosmahisham replied at 27-7-2021 12:16 PM
Aduhai aku bakal dpt sinovac,ppv aku tu mmg semua sinovac,ni yg lemah ni..tp mmg expected cam gini k ...
Pfizer pun dgrnya mcm nak ada 3rd cucuk juga. Tah lepas ni mcm cucuk influenza tu la. Exery year kena booster |
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Yup.. the study in Israel, which is heavily pfizer, dan dah start vaccination >6 months, it shows the effectiveness of pfizer reduced to 39%. Though the data is not huge, it is still showing an alarming result on the possibility of antibody reducing over time. Israel's data for those vaccinated in Jan the effectiveness is now 16%, the effectiveness for those yang vaccinated in April is now 75%. So possibility of 3rd dose is there, in fact Ugur Sahin himself talks about 3rd booster for pfizer.
Disclaimer : Akak tak ada lah pro Israel, ambik data aja. Kang ada lak yang kata apsal ambik data Israel 
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haznor replied at 28-7-2021 07:05 AM
Bukan warga layak dpt vac ke?
Ramai je bukan warga dh dpt vaksin, diorang dpt sinovac, pfizer pun ada, |
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Edited by mbhcsf at 28-7-2021 11:35 AM
begitulah vaccine adatnya ada duration span.
and for which variants?
tak ada data ye?
for me tak payah kisah third ke ape ke
tengok yg the first two doses dulu effects depa ...untuk delta variants buat msa la ni...
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That is mostly against Delta katanya.
Yeah.. don't bother much pasal 3rd jab ni.. vaksin covid ni bukan the only vaksin yang kena annual jab... ni yang bising2 ni tak pernah vaksin influenza ka? Influenza pun tiap tahun kena jab. Yang penting protection sekarang ni.
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vee_zara replied at 27-7-2021 01:35 PM
So? Ada tak yg positive stage 4 ke atas?. N ada kematian tak? Jika tak de dah boleh nampak la the ...
Kawan ayah aku baru meninggal 17.7 ari tu. Dah complete 2nd dose. Lepas tu kena covid terus meninggal |
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How long after 2nd dose?
Data jangkitan semalam ada they declare 4 person yang vaccinated at Cat 5, but mereka tak declare 1st dose or 2nd dose. |
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antiQue replied at 28-7-2021 12:13 PM
How long after 2nd dose?
Data jangkitan semalam ada they declare 4 person yang vaccinated at Ca ...
Tak pasti. Tak sempat nak tanya ayah lebih2. Kena covid seminggu lepas tu terus meninggal |
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chula replied at 27-7-2021 04:58 PM
Az terpaling murah..harap2 AZ jugalah terpaling mujarab
Ya, tak silap yg buat AZ mmg bukan utk business ie profit making. |
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betul....husband gi hantar anak ke MMU ...banyak warga asing kat luar q...anak dapat pfizer..sahlah mereka pun pfizer.....kami suami isteri sinovac...lah ni pulak arab saudi suh amik booster dose lah kalau nak umrah ke haji....mengecewakan sungguh lahai
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Dah gaya ayam lah ye..cocok tak habis..adehh. tadi aku dengar doktor mana tah nasihat kena up kan imun sndri melalui pemakanan jugak..sebelum dan selepas vaksin. Ambillah yg berkhasiat. Berjemur lah dipagi hari untuk serap vitamin D paling cepat..kalau ambik vaksin tapi makan tak jaga gula lebih2 pon tak jadi apa |
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Bila dia kata antibodi lemah aku teringatkan HIV...adakah persamaan? |
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Vaccine lain pun sampai 3 dose jugak ke? |
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Gomea replied at 28-7-2021 11:52 AM
Kawan ayah aku baru meninggal 17.7 ari tu. Dah complete 2nd dose. Lepas tu kena covid terus mening ...
kena covid within 1 week after vax ke |
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paling tepat dok kata Rasulullah ke ? ikut sunnah Rasul ni bodoh amat?
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Pfizer is talking about 3rd dose as well.
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Bukanlah... adoii...
Maksudnya, selepas 2 minggu bila dah complete 2 dose vaksin tu, badan dah membina antibodi untuk lawan Covid. So masa tu mungkin antibodi yang dicipta untuk lawan Covid berjumlah 250u/ml (ni boleh cek dengan cara buat antibody test), or kalau kita buat test neutralising antibody ada 95% inhibition for example.
Tapi antibodi yang terbina ni tak bersifat kekal... makin lama, body makin lupa macam mana rupa kuman covid tu. So mungkin bulan ke 6 lepas cucuk vaksin, bila cek antibodi utk lawan covid tinggal 50u/ml, bila buat neutralising antibody ada 60% inhibition aja.
Giteww...
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kwn2 yg dapat pfizer, side effect lagi teruk dari AZ...
aku bersyukur dgn Sinovac..
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