Pembangkang jangan ghairah desak kerajaan guna Ivermectin

tripleid

terkulat-kulat deham baba x boleh jawab bila kalid samad tanya psl side effect imervectin..

JessePinkman

honeybee1802 replied at 28-7-2021 11:20 AM
How about other countries?philippines?thailand?indon?takkan nak berdasarkan kajian dr india shj..s ...

Kalau ko/ ahli keluarga dah nak mati, ko guna je peluang apa yg ada kan? Habis duit ratus ribu pun sanggup, kalau ada orang kata ubat tu pernah selamatkan banyak nyawa di India.

Ke ko nak jawab, takpe la, ko nak tunggu ubat tu selamatkan nyawa orang di filipine, thailand dulu?

Kalau ko mati dulu, baru filipin thailand siap kaji, camne?

blastoff

honeybee1802 replied at 28-7-2021 11:20 AM
How about other countries?philippines?thailand?indon?takkan nak berdasarkan kajian dr india shj..s ...

Yg dok mati lani beratusan daily di wad kenapa kau tak salahkan doktor2 tu yg guna ubat steroid dexamethasone? Ubat steroid tuu pilihan doktor2 so dah mati lepas diberi ubat tu kalau ikut logik kau patutnya doktor2 tu di minta bertanggung jawab lah kann kerana silap pilih ubat camtu lalu sebab kan ramai pesakit mati tiap hari... Tapi kau dan doktor2 tu buat tak peduli pun... So? Awat hipokrit camtu?

caprut

honeybee1802 replied at 28-7-2021 11:22 AM
Dol..kt yindia tu naik masalah fungus ka haper tu sbb apa plak dol?eh tp dol doktor gigi eh?

Black fungus tu mgkin disebabkan pngguna steroid yg kerap dan setting ICU yg tk brsih.

jiwasemangat

"Black Fungus"
Dalam darah sesetengah pesakit kuantiti glukosa tinggi (for diabetes patient).. Glukosa menjadi sumber karbon kepada black fungus untuk membiak secara anaerob dalam darah. Antara tempat paling sesuai utk membiak (growth) adalah di otak. Kejadian ini berlaku secara drastic only to diabetes patients. Currently reseach still in progress in order to understand further this phenomenon to non diabetes patient.
*keyword: pesakit kencing manis

blastoff

caprut replied at 28-7-2021 11:32 AM
Black fungus tu mgkin disebabkan pngguna steroid yg kerap dan setting ICU yg tk brsih.

Misuse of steroids major cause behind black fungus cases: AIIMS chief
TIMESOFINDIA.COM | Updated: May 15, 2021, 20:59 IST

caprut

jiwasemangat replied at 28-7-2021 11:36 AM
"Black Fungus"
Dalam darah sesetengah pesakit kuantiti glukosa tinggi (for diabetes patient).. Gluk ...

What’s black fungus? Can the use of steroids lead to black fungus? What are the symptoms? How should it be treated?

DR. HEMANT THACKER, CONSULTANT PHYSICIAN & CARDIOMETABOLIC SPECIALIST, BREACH CANDY, JASLOK, BHATIA AND RELIANCE HOSPITALS, MUMBAI:

Black fungus is a growth of fungal material caused by a bug. It’s so rare that indiscriminate, untimely, and excessive use in patients causes it. When doctors with good knowledge give steroids, they give it for a short period, and they wean and taper it off. Because steroids have a feel-good factor, patients often continue them. The black fungus will breed in poorly diabetic controlled patients.

If you have been in hospitals for more than two-three weeks and have a lot of antibiotics and steroids, and if you have diabetes and if you have used oxygen for long periods maybe the oxygen has not been hygienically delivered to you if you start getting unnatural headaches and sinus pain, forehead pains, visual disturbances, that’s when you should go to the doctor and ask him whether you have something growing in the sinus, in the orbital area. But that doesn’t mean that every headache after Covid is a black fungus. It’s pretty rare. We’re seeing them in single-digit percentages and that too under five. Quite often, the fungus is in mind and not in the body

truememe

jiwasemangat replied at 28-7-2021 11:36 AM
"Black Fungus"
Dalam darah sesetengah pesakit kuantiti glukosa tinggi (for diabetes patient).. Gluk ...

Ooo..maksudnya yang kena black fungus kat india tu mostly yang ada dm la ye?selalu duk baca tajuk news je pasal black fungus ni

blastoff

So lani kat wad2 di malaysia yg dok abuse ubat steroid dexamethasone hingga mati ramai pesakit daily kerana Black fungus laaa yg di tutup rapat dari pengetahuan ramai.... awat doktor2 dan DG  tak mau  bertanggung jawab atas kematian berrlambak2 tu haaaaa ?

Delifrance

blastoff replied at 28-7-2021 11:42 AM
So lani kat wad2 di malaysia yg dok abuse ubat steroid dexamethasone hingga mati ramai pesakit daily ...

Patients dpt dexa ni kot mana?

Aku pernah dpt injection ni before bersalin. Sakit nak mampuih ok. Bersalin pon tak sakit mcm tu

jiwasemangat

truememe replied at 28-7-2021 11:41 AM
Ooo..maksudnya yang kena black fungus kat india tu mostly yang ada dm la ye?selalu duk baca tajuk  ...

..maybe laa.. i tak berani nak buat conclusion lagi. Time so short now to come out with scientific evidence. Utk black fungus tu idop dgn pantas dlm badan.. dia perlu carbon, nitrogen, fosfat (maybe), mineral (may come from drug)  & carbon dioxide environment (dlm darah pesakit kobid oksijen sikit, CO2 banyak)..

wanawina

Delifrance replied at 28-7-2021 11:52 AM
Patients dpt dexa ni kot mana?

Aku pernah dpt injection ni before bersalin. Sakit nak mampuih  ...

cuols dpt im dexa sbb baby cuols premature. betul?

kemaruk

JessePinkman replied at 28-7-2021 10:53 AM
Betul. Subliminal message. Najib pro Ivermectin.

Tapi dia tak boleh la nak cakap direct.

sedangkan main bola wakil sekolah pon ada taktik dan strategi

apatah lagi politik untuk jawatan tertinggi negara

sebab tu la bangkem kesian tengok orang2 yang naif

jiwasemangat

..kalau pesakit ninggal.. dokter kontrek laa yg kena jawab.. sebab dia yg terakhir di beri tugas bersama pesakit.. agak nya laa..  
kesian orang kontrek..
Dokter sènièr boleh gi visit wad lain..
..agak nya laa.. haha

Delifrance

wanawina replied at 28-7-2021 11:56 AM
cuols dpt im dexa sbb baby cuols premature. betul?

Betul. To strengthen baby’s lungs

slavehunter

Harap tiada desakan untuk dicucuk Miss V juga.

Harap pembangkang or lawyers of freedom fight for rakyat tidak boleh memaksa seseorang rakyat untuk dicucuk memasukkan sesuatu didalam badan nye.

Firenzza

lil_honey replied at 28-7-2021 10:00 AM
tgh covid tak boleh. tapi lepas covid even sehari dua pun dah boleh cucuk vaksin. ntah la. tak pah ...

Tadi pun KJ bentangkan dlm parlimen yg beksin dpt tu pun masih dlm trial blm test kt manusia pun tp disbbkan emergency diorg terus lepaskan. Klau baca borang sblm cucuk beksin dkt 1st p/graph dh siap2 tulis apa2 effect tangging sendiri.

Ada je kes even dh complete 2 dos masih kena covid malah ada kes yg lbh teruk.

Yg iols maksudkan pesakit covid ni knp x diberi pilihan utk guna kaedah lain klau ikhtiar yg ada x jalan? Biarlah pesakit ke waris ke yg tt borang disclaimer. Sama juga konsep beksin dlm borang declare cucuk pun dh tulis even cucuk pun x jamin x kena covid.

blastoff

Delifrance replied at 28-7-2021 11:52 AM
Patients dpt dexa ni kot mana?

Aku pernah dpt injection ni before bersalin. Sakit nak mampuih  ...

Diberi di wad2 dan maeps sebab DG kata ubat tu je yg berkesan utk covid so doktor2 bagi ler.... Lepas tu kalau x mati makna bberbulan2 para pesakit tu suffer side effect dexa dan prednisolone


Health DG: So far only Dexamethasone works on Covid ... - Malaysiakini
19 Oct 2020 — Only the steroid dexamethasone has shown results when used to treat the virus

blastoff

JessePinkman replied at 28-7-2021 10:53 AM
Betul. Subliminal message. Najib pro Ivermectin.

Tapi dia tak boleh la nak cakap direct.

Tapi yg dia boh dlm piring bukannya semua kenal  ivm dalam keadaan camtu yg betul2 perasannya yg dah pernah guna laaa so camna plak dia nak org lain yg tak pernah guna tahu mengenainya...

Dalam macam2 bab lain dia boleh je dok meroyan kat Facebook dia tetiba bab ivermectin nk kalut delete mende yg tak diperasan semua org pungg tunjukkan dia Cuba sembunyikan lah sebab dia tak perasan mende tu kat situ ketika snap gambar

Buritan

xpdckelate replied at 28-7-2021 08:06 AM
bukan ke ivermectin boleh digunakan jika diminta oleh pesakit tapi secara off label kan?

Off label tu mende..