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Palestine - who owns it?

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Post time 7-11-2004 12:17 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Seraphim at 2004-11-7 10:44 AM:


Sonny boy...Your remark (which is in red) is exceedingly downright-to-earth rueful....PLease..i mean do please read the origin of the name palestine..Do please Sonny...

[url]http://www.pales ...


so where its written israelis owned PALESTINE from beginnin to end of PALESTINE history?  where?

wheres ur HARDproof to counter me HARDproof that israel owned PALESTINE from 3rd millennium bc till un divided PALESTINE in 1948?  where?

n read that part of info which me paste from ur site with ur brain up there not down there.  its persians n muslims possibly arabs' conquest over PALESTINE not jews or israelis' conquest  :no:

This remained the situation until the end of the fourth century, when in the wake of a general imperial reorganization Palestine became three Palestines: First, Second, and Third. This configuration is believed to have persisted into the seventh century, the time of the Persian and Muslim conquests.

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Post time 7-11-2004 03:05 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sonny~~ at 7-11-2004 12:17 PM:


so where its written israelis owned PALESTINE from beginnin to end of PALESTINE history?  where?

wheres ur HARDproof to counter me HARDproof that israel owned PALESTINE from 3rd millennium b ...


<Shocked>I dont even want to spent time over and over again to explain to you again..I'll give you something to ponder upon...What right does the current Palestinians claiming over the lands ,oh wise one???
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Post time 7-11-2004 08:02 PM | Show all posts
Hi all,

This 16-year-old muslim Sonny deserves more contempt than a joke! I simply cannot understand his need to show off his idiocy. Here's another classic example of his disgraced tinpot reasoning:
5-11-2004 01:22 PM - the HARDbottom line israel owned PALESTINE at ONE time only
7-11-2004 09:23 AM - wheres ur HARDproof to counter me HARDproof that israel owned PALESTINE from 3rd millennium bc till un divided PALESTINE in 1948?  where?
prrrfftttt  :lol

One probable reason is that he don't mind being seen as a stupid Christian at all since he is not one. ;)

I refrained from responding to him directly however, for the benefit of all readers, here's a more balanced assessment of of the events in chronology, some of which omitted by Sonny and made flawed remarks:
3'rd millennium BC : The Canaanites were the earliest known inhabitants of Palestine. no israelites and no arabs(amalikites). The term Palestine had not existed that time. It's called Canaan.

2'rd millennium BC : Egyptian hegemony and Canaanite autonomy were constantly challenged by such ethnically diverse invaders as the Amorites, Hittites, and Hurrians. no israelites and no arabs(amalikites).

1800BC: Abraham migrated to Canaan from Ur. Beginning of Israelite history.

14th century BC : Egyptian power began to weaken, new invaders appeared: the Hebrews, a group of Semitic tribes from Mesopotamia, and the Philistines (after whom the country was later named), an Aegean people of Indo-European stock. israelites existed and lived there and no arabs(amalikites).

1200BC: Moses led Hebrews, the 12 Israelite tribes to enter Canaan - The Exodus. Amalikites are nomads from Arabian peninsula who attacked and looted Moses' people when they cross the Sinai peninsula.

1230 BC : Joshua conquered parts of Palestine. The conquerors settled in the hill country, but they were unable to conquer all of Palestine. Birth of Israel by Israelites. No arabs(amalikites). The term Palestine not existed.

1125 BC : The Israelites, a confederation of Hebrew tribes, finally defeated the Canaanites but found the struggle with the Philistines more difficult . Philistines had established an independent state on the southern coast of Palestine and controlled the Canaanite town of Jerusalem. Israel exists. No signs of arabs(amalikites). The term Palestine not existed yet.

1050 BC : Philistines with there superior in military organization and using iron weapons, they severely defeated the Israelites about 1050 BC. Israel on the brink of extinction but turned the table afterwards. No arabs(amalikites).

1000 BC : David, Israel's great king, finally defeated the Philistines, and they eventually assimilated with the Canaanites. Israel exists. No arabs(amalikites).

922 BC : Under David's son and successor, Solomon, Israel enjoyed peace and prosperity , but at his death in 922 BC the kingdom was divided into Israel in the north and Judah in the south. Both Israel and Judah is Israelite kingdoms. no arabs(amalikites).

722-721 BC : When nearby empires resumed their expansion, the divided Israelites could no longer maintain their independence . Israel fell to Assyria. But Assyrians did not enter Jerusalem. The Israelites were left with a tiny Jerusalem territory. Israelite still exists. No arabs(amalikites).

586 BC : Judah was conquered by Babylonia, which destroyed Jerusalem and exiled most of the Jews living there. Nebuchadnezzar entered Jerusalem. Israelite kingdoms ended. No arabs(amalikites).

539 BC : Cyrus the Great of Persia conquered Babylonia and he permitted the Jews to return to Judea, a district of Palestine. Under Persian rule the Jews were allowed considerable autonomy. Israelite exists in the region. No arabs(amalikites).

141-63 BC : Jews revolted under the Maccabees and set up an independent state. Israelites exists. No arabs(amalikites)

132-35 BC : Jews revolts erupted, numerous Jews were killed, many were sold into slavery, and the rest were not allowed to visit Jerusalem. Judea was renamed Syria Palaistina. Israelites exists. No arabs(amalikites). The term Palestine first existed. The true Palestinian is Jews.

29-614 AD : Byzantine (Roman) rule was interrupted , however , by a brief Persian occupation and ended altogether when Muslim Arab armies invaded Palestine and captured Jerusalem in AD 638. Arab occupation of Jews and Christians. Israelites exists. Arabs(amalikites) first appeared in the region. They knew under the banner of Islam the Jews would return. Very few settled in the region. Umayyad, Abbasid and Fatimid(North African) were all foreign invaders over original inhabitants of Canaan/Palaistina.

1291: Egyptian Mamluks ruled Middle East.

1516: Ottoman Turks took control.

1882: around 180,000 inhabitants. Jews came with passion to make desert bloom. Arabs were hired. Employment spurred immigration.

1915: greatest locust plague in modern history ever recorded. Wiped out 40,000 people. Arabs left the region. No deep historical attachement to the land.

1920: Britain controls Palestine. Arabs swarmed in illegally and refuses Jews.

1948: Israel proclaimed. Israel for the Jews. Remaining land occupied by arabs.

From the above, we can see Palestinian Arabs/Muslims never ruled the region. The Jews ruled for more than 2000 years. Jewish ruler for the Jews.Prior to Jordan and Egypt relinquish controls of the areas they occupied, there's no such race called Palestinian. Simply because, Arabs and Jews alike stood to their identity rather than a mock name given by the Romans taken by an extinct race called Philistines. Arafat made the world's greatest propaganda hoax as if the Arabs are Palestinian. Hence, the fairy tale begun...

Lastly, Res 181 is useless as the Partition Plan was never implemented....

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Post time 8-11-2004 09:23 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sonny~~ at 6-11-2004 02:55 PM:


u bein deceptive agin mr wise guy ME

lets get HARDfacts straight

un didnt divide PALESTINE 50 50.  un gave 56.47% of PALESTINE to jews so that israel can exist, n 43.53% of PALESTINE to P ...



OMG...nightlord is right...you are bodoh sonny...i give you the fact again...read it loudly if you have to...


The history of the state of Israel, from 1517 to the present.

Between 1517 and 1917, the Ottoman Empire of Turkey controlled the areas of Lebanon, Syria, and Palestine. Supporting Germany during the First World War, the Turks were defeated and in 1916, the southern portion of control was mandated to Britain and France - Lebanon and Syria going to France, with Palestine (the areas known today as Israel, Jordan, and the West Bank) controlled by the British. Jews had begun mass immigration to Palestine during the 1880抯 and slowly started changing the very landscape from malarial swamps and dry desserts to farmable land. This also attracted a large number of Arab immigrants who were looking for employment and better living conditions.

In 1923 Palestine was divided into two areas by the British
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Post time 8-11-2004 12:58 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Adm_Cheng_Ho at 2004-11-7 08:02 PM:
Hi all,

This 16-year-old muslim Sonny deserves more contempt than a joke! I simply cannot understand his need to show off his idiocy. Here's another classic example of his disgraced tinpot reaso ...


the question now is is PALESTINE bfor 1947/1948 owned by PALESTINIANS or israelis/jews.  mark u PALESTINIANS made up of mostly muslims possibly arabs, chrisitans possibly arabs, jews etc.  lets c deceptive ADMIRALs masterpiece

I refrained from responding to him directly however, for the benefit of all readers, here's a more balanced assessment of of the events in chronology, some of which omitted by Sonny and made flawed remarks:

3'rd millennium BC : The Canaanites were the earliest known inhabitants of Palestine. no israelites and no arabs(amalikites). The term Palestine had not existed that time. It's called Canaan. yup no israelis n no arabs

2'rd millennium BC : Egyptian hegemony and Canaanite autonomy were constantly challenged by such ethnically diverse invaders as the Amorites, Hittites, and Hurrians. no israelites and no arabs(amalikites). now u're caught with ur pants down.  no israelis butt theres EGYPTIAN HEGEMONY n u know whos EGYPTIANS?  use ur brain now.  inother words ARABS in CANAAN bfore israelis/jews

1800BC: Abraham migrated to Canaan from Ur. Beginning of Israelite history. the word is MIGRATED not CONQUERED.  hence EGYPTIANS (ARABS) N CANAANITES R NOT CONQUERED BY NONE

14th century BC : Egyptian power began to weaken, new invaders appeared: the Hebrews, a group of Semitic tribes from Mesopotamia, and the Philistines (after whom the country was later named), an Aegean people of Indo-European stock. israelites existed and lived there and no arabs(amalikites). although EGYPTIANS (ARABS) WEAKEN, THEY STILL AROUND.  mark u hebrews r invaders.  likewise philistines who eventually become PALESTINE N PALESTINIANS.  now u c the connection why PALESTINIANS made up of mostly muslims possibly ARABS, christians possibly ARABS, jews etc? n u wanna insist PALESTINE is owned by israelis when its first owned by CANAANITES THEN EGYPTIANS (ARABS)?

1200BC: Moses led Hebrews, the 12 Israelite tribes to enter Canaan - The Exodus. Amalikites are nomads from Arabian peninsula who attacked and looted Moses' people when they cross the Sinai peninsula. the word is EXODUS not CONQUERED.  hence ARABS be they EGYPTIANS OR ARAB NOMADS still around

1230 BC : Joshua conquered parts of Palestine. The conquerors settled in the hill country, but they were unable to conquer all of Palestine. Birth of Israel by Israelites. No arabs(amalikites). The term Palestine not existed. israel conqured part of PALESTINE not wholely.  hence PALESTINIANS still around be they PHILISTINES OR EGYPTIANS (ARABS) OR ARAB NOMADS

1125 BC : The Israelites, a confederation of Hebrew tribes, finally defeated the Canaanites but found the struggle with the Philistines more difficult . Philistines had established an independent state on the southern coast of Palestine and controlled the Canaanite town of Jerusalem. Israel exists. No signs of arabs(amalikites). The term Palestine not existed yet. there u r.  ur cut n paste showS israelis never owned WHOLE OF PALESTINE, ONLY A PART OF IT.  the rest PRECISELY JERUSALEM owned by PHILISTINES n PALESTINIANS eventually made up mOSTLY ARABS

1050 BC : Philistines with there superior in military organization and using iron weapons, they severely defeated the Israelites about 1050 BC. Israel on the brink of extinction but turned the table afterwards. No arabs(amalikites). n u lie.  ARABS did exist followin EGYPTIANS' existence in CANAAN.  read bout it up there

1000 BC : David, Israel's great king, finally defeated the Philistines, and they eventually assimilated with the Canaanites. Israel exists. No arabs(amalikites). yup as SONNY said israeli owned PALESTINE only at ONE time.  nonetheless PALESTINIAN natives still around n they're made up of mostly ARABS

922 BC : Under David's son and successor, Solomon, Israel enjoyed peace and prosperity , but at his death in 922 BC the kingdom was divided into Israel in the north and Judah in the south. Both Israel and Judah is Israelite kingdoms. no arabs(amalikites). israel n judah could be israelite kingdome but PALESTINIAN natives still around n they're mostly ARABS

722-721 BC : When nearby empires resumed their expansion, the divided Israelites could no longer maintain their independence . Israel fell to Assyria. But Assyrians did not enter Jerusalem. The Israelites were left with a tiny Jerusalem territory. Israelite still exists. No arabs(amalikites). as ur cut n paste has proven - israelis no more owned PALESTINE.  PALESTINE OWNED BY ASSYRIANS (ARABS).  

besides 'ere lies god's curse on israelis ie israeli/jews gonna be nomads till doomsday.  me cut n paste bout it later.  

the HARDfact remains ARABS presence gettin stronger by the sec via PALESTINIAN natives whos mostly ARABS n ASSYRIANS (ARABS)


586 BC : Judah was conquered by Babylonia, which destroyed Jerusalem and exiled most of the Jews living there. Nebuchadnezzar entered Jerusalem. Israelite kingdoms ended. No arabs(amalikites). god's curse on israelis on the move.  jews r kicked out while PALESTINIAN natives stay.  n these PALESTINIANS natives r mostly ARABS (EGYPTIANS, ARAB NOMADS, ASSYRIANS)

539 BC : Cyrus the Great of Persia conquered Babylonia and he permitted the Jews to return to Judea, a district of Palestine. Under Persian rule the Jews were allowed considerable autonomy. Israelite exists in the region. No arabs(amalikites). israelis in agin but not as owner of PALESTINE per se.  PALESTINE now owned by persia.  nonethless PALESTINIAN natives still around n they're mostly ARABS

141-63 BC : Jews revolted under the Maccabees and set up an independent state. Israelites exists. No arabs(amalikites). nonetheless israelis dont own PALESTINE per se.  PALESTINIAN natives still around n they're mostly ARABS

132-35 BC : Jews revolts erupted, numerous Jews were killed, many were sold into slavery, and the rest were not allowed to visit Jerusalem. Judea was renamed Syria Palaistina. Israelites exists. No arabs(amalikites). The term Palestine first existed. The true Palestinian is Jews. liar.  true PALESTINIANS not jews but majority ARABS be they mostly muslims or christians. in HARDfact as ur cut n paste shows PALESTINIANS or PALESTINIAN natives r made up of CANAANITES (assimilated), EGYPTIANS (ARABS), PHILISTINES, ARAB NOMADS, ASSYRIANS (ARABS) n many others who came n went.

besides ur cut n paste has proven israelis have no more hold on PALESTINE.  they've been cursed by god to be nomads for life.  only with un's donkey grace that israel exists via dividin PALESTINE. no deceptive interpretation of history


29-614 AD : Byzantine (Roman) rule was interrupted , however , by a brief Persian occupation and ended altogether when Muslim Arab armies invaded Palestine and captured Jerusalem in AD 638. Arab occupation of Jews and Christians. Israelites exists. Arabs(amalikites) first appeared in the region. They knew under the banner of Islam the Jews would return. Very few settled in the region. Umayyad, Abbasid and Fatimid(North African) were all foreign invaders over original inhabitants of Canaan/Palaistina. as ur cut n paste has proven, PALESTINE is back in ARABS hand, first by EGYPTIANS, THEN ASSYRIANS, THEN LASTLY by ARABS PER SE. israelis around but they no more owned PALESTINE per se.  uh huh.  jews may return but not as owner.  the owner now is PALESTINIANS be they mostly muslims possibly arabs, christians possily arabs, jews etc.  ur cut n paste nailed u squarely on ur thick skull

1291: Egyptian Mamluks ruled Middle East. no israelis power but ARABS power.  nonethless PALESTINIANS still around

1516: Ottoman Turks took control. no israelis power but turks power.  nonetheless PALESTINIANS still around

1882: around 180,000 inhabitants. Jews came with passion to make desert bloom. Arabs were hired. Employment spurred immigration. no israel power but turks power.  nonetheless PALETINIAN natives still around

1915: greatest locust plague in modern history ever recorded. Wiped out 40,000 people. Arabs left the region. No deep historical attachement to the land. no israelis power but turks power.  nonethless PALESTINIAN natives still around

1920: Britain controls Palestine. Arabs swarmed in illegally and refuses Jews.  no israelis power but british power.  nonetheless PALESTINIAN natives still around be they mostly muslims possibly arabs, christians possibly arabs, jews etc

continue  :gila:

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continue  :kant:

1948: Israel proclaimed. Israel for the Jews. Remaining land occupied by arabs. israel exists via un's donkey grace when PALESTINE is divided to give way to israel.  un never take into consideration the plight of PALESTINIAN natives who lived in that part of PALESTINE that has become israel.  so israeli PALESTINIAN conflict gonna last for lifetime

mark u, un never divided PALESTINE 50 50.  its 56.47% to jews n 43.53% to PALESTINIANS.  now israel holds on to 77 per cent of PALESTIANS lands (israel + occupied PALESTINIAN territories).  yet jew luvers think israel not the greedy one.  jew luvers n outcast import jews expect PALESTINIAN to move their arse into arabs nations leavin imported outcast jews to change PALESTINE name into israel.  exactly wot the white did to american natives.  wot rot  :no:
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are you playing dumb or are you really that dumb...i give you again...for the third time...your comment are needed here...

The history of the state of Israel, from 1517 to the present.

Between 1517 and 1917, the Ottoman Empire of Turkey controlled the areas of Lebanon, Syria, and Palestine. Supporting Germany during the First World War, the Turks were defeated and in 1916, the southern portion of control was mandated to Britain and France - Lebanon and Syria going to France, with Palestine (the areas known today as Israel, Jordan, and the West Bank) controlled by the British. Jews had begun mass immigration to Palestine during the 1880抯 and slowly started changing the very landscape from malarial swamps and dry desserts to farmable land. This also attracted a large number of Arab immigrants who were looking for employment and better living conditions.

In 1923 Palestine was divided into two areas by the British
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Post time 8-11-2004 01:22 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Seraphim at 2004-11-7 03:05 PM:


<Shocked>I dont even want to spent time over and over again to explain to you again..I'll give you something to ponder upon...What right does the current Palestinians claiming over the la ...


wots ur interpretation of the info below which me get from ur link o white wannabe?  :hmm:

This remained the situation until the end of the fourth century, when in the wake of a general imperial reorganization Palestine became three Palestines: First, Second, and Third. This configuration is believed to have persisted into the seventh century, the time of the Persian and Muslim conquests.

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Post time 8-11-2004 01:27 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by me at 2004-11-8 09:23 AM:



OMG...nightlord is right...you are bodoh sonny...i give you the fact again...read it loudly if you have to...


The history of the state of Israel, from 1517 to the present.

Between  ...


if PALESTINE has been divided in 1923, why un wanna divide it agin in 1947/1948 o deceptive wise one?  :hmm:  

Summary of UN General Assembly Resolution 181
November 29, 1947

The territory of Palestine should be divided as follows:

A Jewish State covering 56.47% of Mandatory Palestine (excluding Jerusalem) with a population of 498,000 Jews and 325,000 Arabs;

An Arab State covering 43.53% of Mandatory Palestine (excluding Jerusalem), with 807,000 Arab inhabitants and 10,000 Jewish inhabitants;

An international trusteeship regime in Jerusalem, where the population was 100,000 Jews and 105,000 Arabs.


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are you playing dumb or are you really that dumb

me, yes he is playing dumb. He is not here to discuss, understand or share knowledge. He's here to impose twisted agenda. When he's cornered, he will show those stupid faces like :kant: :gila:

So, stop wasting your time responding to this twerp. Don't affect his study by enticing him to spend his time responding to you either. He's taking his SPM next year. Nobody's taking him seriously. He's a joke! :lol
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Originally posted by me at 2004-11-8 01:21 PM:
are you playing dumb or are you really that dumb...i give you again...for the third time...your comment are needed here...

The history of the state of Israel, from 1517 to the present.

Betwee ...


if PALESTINE has been divided in 1923 why un wanna divide it agin in 1947/1948 o donkey sire?  :cak:

Summary of UN General Assembly Resolution 181
November 29, 1947

The territory of Palestine should be divided as follows:

A Jewish State covering 56.47% of Mandatory Palestine (excluding Jerusalem) with a population of 498,000 Jews and 325,000 Arabs;

An Arab State covering 43.53% of Mandatory Palestine (excluding Jerusalem), with 807,000 Arab inhabitants and 10,000 Jewish inhabitants;

An international trusteeship regime in Jerusalem, where the population was 100,000 Jews and 105,000 Arabs.


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Sonny, out of compassion, I'm gonna say this once and once only. Early Egyptians are not Arabs. Full Stop.
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Originally posted by Adm_Cheng_Ho at 2004-11-8 01:30 PM:

me, yes he is playing dumb. He is not here to discuss, understand or share knowledge. He's here to impose twisted agenda. When he's cornered, he will show those stupid faces like :kant: :gila:

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thats rite
run along now

slink off with ur tail between ur legs when ur HARDcut n paste shows how deceptive u r in wanna impress upon SONNY that israel owned PALESTINE per se when it has won over by many others

n u have the donkey cheek to say jews r PALESTINIAN natives when origin of PALESTINIAN natives started from CANAANITES (assimilated), EGYPTIANS, ASSYRIANS, PILISTINES n many others n last but not least by PALESTINIAN NATIVES emselves be they muslims possibly ARABS, christians possibly ARABS, jews etc  

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Originally posted by Adm_Cheng_Ho at 2004-11-8 01:35 PM:
Sonny, out of compassion, I'm gonna say this once and once only. Early Egyptians are not Arabs. Full Stop.


it dont matter  
irrespective egyptians r chinese or indians or eropeans etc, the HARDfact remains they conquered PALESTINE (CANAAN) from canaanites.  

israel is conqueror at only ONE time.  then they're defeated by others as ur cut n paste has proven to ur donkeyself

the HARDbottomline jews or israelis never PALESTINIAN natives.

PALESTINIAN natives r made up of many nations that came n went includin CANAANITES (assimilated), EGYPTIANS, ASSYRIANS, PHILISTIANS, ARABS PER SE, JEWS.

eventually PALESTINIAN natives r PALESTINIANS emselves be they majority muslims possibly ARABS, christians possibly ARABS, jews etc.  get that into ur thick skull  

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Originally posted by sonny~~ at 8-11-2004 01:31 PM:


if PALESTINE has been divided in 1923 why un wanna divide it agin in 1947/1948 o donkey sire?  :cak:

Summary of UN General Assembly Resolution 181
November 29, 1947
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hahahahhahahahahahhahalol:lol

padan muka...serve them right...dah bagi betis nak lagi paha or in this case, dah dapat paha nak pula betis...them greedy arabs...

like i wrote earlier...in 1923 they got 75% of the land but they wanted more...like old malays saying...orang tamak selalu rugi....

lollol:lol

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Originally posted by sonny~~ at 2004-11-8 01:46 PM:


it dont matter  
irrespective egyptians r chinese or indians or eropeans etc, the HARDfact remains they conquered PALESTINE (CANAAN) from canaanites.  

israel is conqueror at only ONE time. ...


Agree with Sonny.
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Originally posted by me at 2004-11-8 02:27 PM:



hahahahhahahahahahhahalol:lol

padan muka...serve them right...dah bagi betis nak lagi paha or in this case, dah dapat paha nak pula betis...them greedy arabs...

like ...


there u r
u're caught with ur pants down like deceptive ADMIRAL

WHO IS BRITAIN TO DIVIDE PALESTINE?  

commonsense tells u its not for britain to divide PALESTINE; it should be up to PALESTINIANS whether they wanna share PALESTINE with outcast imported jews

besides forked tongue britain has promised arabs independence of territories includin PALESTINE.  read me HARDfact with ur brain up there not down there  :no:

1915-1916: Correspondences are exchanged between Sir Henry McMahon, the British High Commissioner in Egypt, and Sherif Hussain, the Emir of Mecca, in which the Sherif demands the &#8220;independence of Arab countries&#8221;, specifying in detail the boundaries of the territories under Ottoman rule, which clearly included Palestine. McMahon confirms that &#8220;Great Britain is prepared to recognize and support the independence of the Arabs in all the regions within the limits demanded by the Sherif of Mecca.&#8221; (McMahon-Hussain Correspondences)

In 1923 Palestine was divided into two areas by the British &#8211;


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Originally posted by Adm_Cheng_Ho at 2004-11-7 08:02 PM:
Hi all,

This 16-year-old muslim Sonny deserves more contempt than a joke! I simply cannot understand his need to show off his idiocy. Here's another classic example of his disgraced tinpot reaso ...

From the above, we can see Palestinian Arabs/Muslims never ruled the region. The Jews ruled for more than 2000 years. Jewish ruler for the Jews.Prior to Jordan and Egypt relinquish controls of the areas they occupied, there's no such race called Palestinian. Simply because, Arabs and Jews alike stood to their identity rather than a mock name given by the Romans taken by an extinct race called Philistines. Arafat made the world's greatest propaganda hoax as if the Arabs are Palestinian. Hence, the fairy tale begun...

Lastly, Res 181 is useless as the Partition Plan was never implemented....


commonsense tells u even if PALESTINIAN arabs/muslims never rule PALESTINE, arabs did rule PALESTINE as ur cut n paste has proven

israelis may have owned PALESTINE but only at ONE time followin which they're defeated by assyria as ur cut n paste has proven

as such if u think israelis r natives of PALESTINE, likewise others includin egyptians, assyrians, philistines, arabs emselves etc, as ur cut n paste has proven

as of now, PALESTINIAN natives made up of mostly muslims possibly arabs, christians possibly arabs, jews etc

PALESTINIAN natives r never outcast imported jews per se

n yup un partition never becomes reality simply bcoz un never takes into account wot gonna happen to PALESTINIAN natives in that part of PALESTINE that has become israel

nonethless israel bulldozed its nation, expellin n terrorizin those PALESTINIAN natives who have lived for donkey years in that part of PALESTINE that has become israel.  thats the HARDreality  

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722-721 BC : When nearby empires resumed their expansion, the divided Israelites could no longer maintain their independence . Israel fell to Assyria. But Assyrians did not enter Jerusalem. The Israelites were left with a tiny Jerusalem territory. Israelite still exists. No arabs(amalikites). as ur cut n paste has proven - israelis no more owned PALESTINE.  PALESTINE OWNED BY ASSYRIANS (ARABS).  

29-614 AD : Byzantine (Roman) rule was interrupted , however , by a brief Persian occupation and ended altogether when Muslim Arab armies invaded Palestine and captured Jerusalem in AD 638. Arab occupation of Jews and Christians. Israelites exists. Arabs(amalikites) first appeared in the region. They knew under the banner of Islam the Jews would return. Very few settled in the region. Umayyad, Abbasid and Fatimid(North African) were all foreign invaders over original inhabitants of Canaan/Palaistina. as ur cut n paste has proven, PALESTINE is back in ARABS hand, first by EGYPTIANS, THEN ASSYRIANS, THEN LASTLY by ARABS PER SE. israelis around but they no more owned PALESTINE per se.  uh huh.  jews may return but not as owner.  the owner now is PALESTINIANS be they mostly muslims possibly arabs, christians possily arabs, jews etc.  ur cut n paste nailed u squarely on ur thick skull

1516: Ottoman Turks took control. no israelis power but turks power.  nonetheless PALESTINIANS still around
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Post time 8-11-2004 04:54 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by KENNKID at 2004-11-8 03:21 PM:


Agree with Sonny.


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Post time 8-11-2004 05:35 PM | Show all posts
HHmmmm..you guys should not entertain Sonny...he's either a block head or an attention seeker..

By using his logic..it's fine if Palestine is owned by Arabs since they taken or conquered  from Jews and the others..Wait a minute..then what's so wrong about Jews taking it back since Arabs used the same method..hhmmm

And ...hold on..are the current Palestinians(well how on earth they managed to increase their numbers in a large stretch???)  the real natives living there in palestine before 1900???:stp:
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