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Tolerance.....how can we achieve it?

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Post time 7-7-2006 11:40 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by karengkang at 7-7-2006 01:47 AM
lu cakap berdegar2 nih pernah ke belajar law ?
declaration tu lar...declaration ni lar..
apa semua atheist memang kena perasan pandai cam ko ke ?
tu kelayakan wajib kalau nak jadek atheist e ...

Diam ajelah kalo engkau tak faham ape yg engkau baca.. nak ejek org pulak tu.. LOL

Originally posted by karengkang at 7-7-2006 01:47 AM
untuk makluman encik Atheist yg sangat2 bijaksana:
- ini negara Malaysia
- Islam agama rasmi
- azan tu ditujukan untuk orang2 Muslim
yo muzzie  don't you know how to read.

agama rasmi ker agama kelup ker bukan jadi massalah. yg menjadi massalah ialah kebiadapan, kesombongan, keangkuhan org muslim seperti kamu di Malaysia. Kononya agama rasmi ialah islam, jadi buat sesuka hati tanpa menghiraukan perasan org2 bukan islam.

My point is muslims are creating noise pollution with their very LOUD azans disturbing the serenity.. creating intolerance.. bukan mempertikaikan azan tu sah ke tak sah.



[ Last edited by  FaithHealer3 at 7-7-2006 11:49 AM ]
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Post time 7-7-2006 11:56 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 7-7-2006 11:40 AM
My point is muslims are creating noise pollution with their very LOUD azans disturbing the serenity.. creating intolerance.. bukan mempertikaikan azan tu sah ke tak sah.


ko pergi ler kat mesjid tu ckp kat  jawatankuasa masjid -  jangan  kuat sgt - zaman Rasulullah tak pakai mikrofon pun. Tujuan azan bukan nak menunjuk-nunjuk..nak ingatkan dan panggil orang sembahyang atau menandakan waktu dah tiba untuk solat..tapi jgn lah ko pulak sakitkan hati dieorang nanti jadi pergaduhan..
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Post time 7-7-2006 11:59 AM | Show all posts
Faithhealer

kalau ko tak suka dengan bapak ko, ko boleh keluar rumah, hidup sendiri.
kalau ko tak suka dengan kampong ko, ko boleh keluar kampong ko, duk kampong lain
kalau ko tak suka dengan town ko, ko boleh keluar town tu, cari town lain.
kalau kau tak suka negeri ko, keluar dari situ, cari negeri lain.
kalau kau tak suka negara ko, cari negara lain.
kalau ko tak suka duk atas bumi, duk bawah tanah.
kalau tak, duk diam diam.
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Post time 7-7-2006 12:43 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Oreng at 7-7-2006 11:59 AM
Faithhealer

kalau ko tak suka dengan bapak ko, ko boleh keluar rumah, hidup sendiri.
kalau ko tak suka dengan kampong ko, ko boleh keluar kampong ko, duk kampong lain
kalau ko tak suka dengan  ...


LOL.. dah agak lah

ni yg i kata tadi.. kebiadapan, kesombongan, keangkuhan

f.y.i bumi ni bukan kamu yg punya lah.



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Post time 7-7-2006 02:18 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 7-7-2006 12:43 PM


LOL.. dah agak lah

ni yg i kata tadi.. kebiadapan, kesombongan, keangkuhan

f.y.i bumi ni bukan kamu yg punya lah.



jgn la gadoh2...bumi ni semua org punyer...

Pasal azan pun ko nak gadoh - hormatlah sikit - dah aku kater tadi - ko taknak bangun pagi kan? ko biasa tido sampai pkl 9... ckp lah kat ajk masjid tu - dier org tu bukan org jahat. Ckp baik2. suruh org toleransi - ko pun tak toleransi - org melayu dan toleransi lamer dah - kalo tak toleransi ko pun dah lamer out, dihalau - now ko jadi rakyat, boleh mengundi, boleh cari rezeki, boleh ck bahaser ko, boleh bina tokong ko, boleh mkn makanan ko.. ader sekolah bahaser ko sendiri... ko nak aper lagi? ko nak kubo ader kubo ko sendiri.. itu sebenarnyer bumi ko... bumi aku pun..kahkahkah..
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Post time 7-7-2006 02:45 PM | Show all posts
Faithhealer

aku biadap ke cakap macam tu... aku bagi cadangan je. Untuk kebaikan kita bersama. Berjuta2 orang buat migrasi kan kerana tak suka dengan sesuatu keadaan ditempat mereka. Mereka ni tak heboh2 macam kau. Rezeki Tuhan kat mana2.
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Post time 7-7-2006 03:29 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 7-7-2006 12:43 PM


LOL.. dah agak lah

ni yg i kata tadi.. kebiadapan, kesombongan, keangkuhan

f.y.i bumi ni bukan kamu yg punya lah.





kenapa nak jadi isu hal ni?
pergi je la ke masjid dan bagitau azan tu kuat sangat...
percaya la, tau la AJK masjid bertoleransi
cakap beria-ia pasal hak asasi, tapi benda simple macam tu pun tak tau..
ni la namanya lagak ayam jaguh
kokok serata kampung
buntut melekat najis...
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 Author| Post time 7-7-2006 04:35 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 7-7-2006 12:43 AM

People have tried. Muslims are not bothered with the feelings of non-muslims.

If the authorities have brains in their head and not in their bottom, they would have realised the noise pollutio ...


write a letter to the mosque and ask for their understanding to reduce the sound of the azan if it is really too loud. get a few people to sign the letter....simple....just try it.....you'd never know.
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Post time 7-7-2006 04:45 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by juwaini at 7-7-2006 03:29 PM


kenapa nak jadi isu hal ni?
pergi je la ke masjid dan bagitau azan tu kuat sangat...
percaya la, tau la AJK masjid bertoleransi
cakap beria-ia pasal hak asasi, tapi benda simple macam tu pun ...


Mungkin dia ingat orang ada kuasa telepathy.
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Post time 7-7-2006 05:39 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by samerosie at 7-7-2006 04:45 PM


Mungkin dia ingat orang ada kuasa telepathy.


sayang je ada akal kalau tak digunakan...
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Post time 8-7-2006 02:50 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Oreng at 7-7-2006 02:45 PM
Faithhealer

aku biadap ke cakap macam tu... aku bagi cadangan je. Untuk kebaikan kita bersama. Berjuta2 orang buat migrasi kan kerana tak suka dengan sesuatu keadaan ditempat mereka. Mereka ni t ...


Memang reply kamu tu macam org biadab jawap. Engkau org yg buat silap dgn Azan yg kuat tapi suruh org lain pulak pindah.. very nice. LOL

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Post time 8-7-2006 02:51 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by POPOY at 7-7-2006 02:18 PM
jgn la gadoh2...bumi ni semua org punyer...

Pasal azan pun ko nak gadoh - hormatlah sikit - dah aku kater tadi - ko taknak bangun pagi kan? ko biasa tido sampai pkl 9... ckp lah kat ajk mas ...


Terbukti lagi..  memang biadap, sombong dan angkuh. aku dah kata azan tu kuat.. mengganggu ketenteraman awam. engkau arrogantly claim kononya melayu bertoleransasi - "kalo tak toleransi ko pun dah lamer out, dihalau". biadab sungguh..  aku dibumi ni bukan kerana org melayu tapi kerana org putih lah. lagipun melayu hanya tau halau org asli dan tanpa malu mengaku bumi-putra pulak.
  
f.y.i dulu sebelum i pindah rumah, pernah juga saya tanya kat masjid kenape Azan tu kuat.. tapi dia org senyum dan kata baru org muslim boleh dengar. Tu lah toleransari islam.. org bukan-muslim yg kena bertoleransasi kebiadapan org islam.

Engkau semua pekak ker.. tak dengar ker Azan tu kuat dan mengganggu orang yg tak percaya kat ajaran arab tu. Kenape engkau org tak bagi tau masjid ker surau ker supaya jangan gunakan pembesar suara dgn kuat?


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Post time 8-7-2006 02:52 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by juwaini at 7-7-2006 03:29 PM


kenapa nak jadi isu hal ni?
pergi je la ke masjid dan bagitau azan tu kuat sangat...
percaya la, tau la AJK masjid bertoleransi
cakap beria-ia pasal hak asasi, tapi benda simple macam tu pun ...

Kalo i kata u ni bodoh.. moderator pulak tension.

engkau ni cakap macam tak tau perangai org melayu-islam.. dia org ade superiority-complex. Tau naik-angin aje.

you nak saya pi bagitau semua masjid dan surau supaya jangan ganggu org bukan-muslim dgn pembesar suara ker.. you ni ade akal ker?

Kalo engkau org ade akal fikirlah sendiri.. jangan sampai org pasang bomb kat masjid.. kat loud speaker

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Post time 8-7-2006 10:09 AM | Show all posts
If you dont dare to ask... then live with it, there is nothing you change by shouting in this thread.

It wasn't worse than Muslim lived in Europe and Western countries who can't wear hijab, or subject to harassement.

Be thankful you are living in Malaysia a Muslim country, not in other countries which might kill people for differences.
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Post time 8-7-2006 01:39 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 7/7/06 10:51 AM


Terbukti lagi..  memang biadap, sombong dan angkuh. aku dah kata azan tu kuat.. mengganggu ketenteraman awam. engkau arrogantly claim kononya melayu bertoleransasi - "kalo tak toleransi k ...


did they start building the surau/masjid when you already resided there for a while?
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Post time 8-7-2006 03:15 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 8-7-2006 02:52 AM

Kalo i kata u ni bodoh.. moderator pulak tension.

engkau ni cakap macam tak tau perangai org melayu-islam.. dia org ade superiority-complex. Tau naik-angin aje.

you nak saya pi bagitau sem ...


simple generalization as an evidence of stupidity
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Post time 8-7-2006 03:57 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by juwaini at 8-7-2006 03:15 PM
simple generalization as an evidence of stupidity

Ok.. let me put it this way. All the practicing muslims that i have come across are suffering from superiority complex.

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Post time 8-7-2006 03:59 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 8-7-2006 03:57 PM

Ok.. let me put it this way. All the practicing muslims that i have come across are suffering from superiority complex.




Not only Muslims...everyone one in the world is suffering this...
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Post time 8-7-2006 04:35 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by eastrun at 8-7-2006 03:59 PM
Not only Muslims...everyone one in the world is suffering this...


hard to disagree with that..

but then again there are some suffering from inferiority-complex too.

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Post time 8-7-2006 04:36 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 8-7-2006 04:35 PM


hard to disagree with that..

but then again there are some suffering from inferiority-complex too.



how about u? lol:lol
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