You call that Islamic weddings for lust?

13Friday

You call that Islamic weddings for lust?

http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/45724.html


Why are the women in Islam so cheap?  Islamists blame the west for decadence when they themselves do that in the Arab connection with world biggest Islamic nations?
Good to know that Muslims would deny here, and what say you good and polygamous people when this is clearly prostitution be they polygamous or otherwise.
Widows and divorcees are excuses of lusty men - dying young with too much sex and too many divorces because the next woman is better in lust.  So it goes on and on ...

To the point please ...... and over to all Muslims here.
13Friday

Indonesian vice president encourages Arabs to pay for marriage with local women
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
June 29, 2006
< Indonesia (AP) - Indonesia's vice president said he saw nothing wrong with Arab men paying local women to marry and then divorcing them days or hours later, and suggested the practice _ dismissed by critics as legalized prostitution _ could boost tourism.

Jusuf Kalla made the off-the-cuff remarks at a travel industry seminar on how to attract more Arab visitors to Indonesia. It was not clear whether he was joking, though his comments caused laughter in the audience.

Kalla said that many Arab tourists currently traveled to the hill town of Puncak near Jakarta to enter into short-term marriage contracts with Indonesian women.

"We need different kinds of marketing campaigns, more targeted. At the moment most Arabs go to Puncak. If they go there looking for widows or divorcees that is not our business, it is not a problem," he said at the conference on Wednesday.

"So what if the man goes home, the lady gets a small house, that is good isn't it?"

Women activists say the weddings, which are not recognized by the state but are blessed by Islamic clerics for a fee, they are a form of legalized prostitution and encourage poor families to sell their daughters for sex.

Media reports say the practice is common throughout Indonesia, and that most of the grooms are local men.

Puncak is notorious for prostitution, and signs in Arabic at several restaurants and hotels testify to the area's popularity with Arab visitors. But it was unclear on what Kalla was basing his assertion that Arab men were especially involved in short-term marriages.

Kalla was not available for comment Thursday, and he does not have a spokesman.

juwaini

Originally posted by 13Friday at 3-7-2006 06:55 PM
You call that Islamic weddings for lust?

http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/45724.html


Why are the women in Islam so cheap?  Islamists blame the west for decadence when they themselves do t ...

what is one of country with the highest sexual workers?
some names bear in my mind...
such as netherland...
thailand
myanmar
UK legalized prostitude
so do US
so do Germany during World Cup
belgium even collect tax from sexual workers...
it looks like reality is a hard thing to accept..
i understand

13Friday

Muslims must reflect deep and wide on those allegation of the west as decadence when Islamic countries do likewise.

juwaini

Originally posted by 13Friday at 4-7-2006 08:09 AM
Muslims must reflect deep and wide on those allegation of the west as decadence when Islamic countries do likewise.

so when another non-muslim legalized sex workers, what's ur action?
what yusuf kalla said is still within wedlock, not some 'zina'....

Oreng

13Friday

You tend to  learn Islam from 'actions' of some muslims. Why dont you learn Islam from more official source. What the minister say must be checked against Islamic sources. What I know, Allah dislike divorce. But in this case, they want to get married with knowledge that they will divorce. Meaning they deliberately doing something that Allah dislike. So, what kind of muslims is this ?

Apa itu bahasa daa, aku tak paham.

13Friday

Originally posted by samerosie at 4-7-2006 10:35 AM
Apa itu bahasa daa, aku tak paham.

and to have a decent family,

but these types of unions allowed by Islam is definitely for lust like prostitution legalised.


read that story again

Originally posted by 13Friday at 4-7-2006 01:02 PM



and to have a decent family,

but these types of unions allowed by Islam is definitely for lust like prostitution legalised.


read that story again

i hear soon kristian will introduce marriage with no sex. just use test tube to get baby. but dey allow to donate thier sperm to priest n nuns. Also homosexual priest can marry n have sex with partner... no baby la.
dis one nice one. 13friday must read

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid=20060630135442AABytPX

Dis one for Truth .8, Debmey & 13Friday to read before dey go to sleep... DUN FORGET PRESS: HOME, MENU, ETC ON TOP :nerd:


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[ Last edited by  POPOY at 4-7-2006 01:24 PM ]

13Friday

Originally posted by POPOY at 4-7-2006 01:15 PM


i hear soon kristian will introduce marriage with no sex. just use test tube to get baby. but dey allow to donate thier sperm to priest n nuns. Also homosexual priest can marry n have sex with  ...

just because you are Muslim trying to find a case for polygamy and sex perverion including quick wedding and then divorce

Originally posted by 13Friday at 4-7-2006 01:50 PM




just because you are Muslim trying to find a case for polygamy and sex perverion including quick wedding and then divorce

just becoz kristian marry end up in divorce most in de world

eastrun

Originally posted by 13Friday at 4-7-2006 01:50 PM




just because you are Muslim trying to find a case for polygamy and sex perverion including quick wedding and then divorce

Just because you are a Christian that trying your very best that Polygamy is wrong, you never see the good side of it.The good side of it is to build a strong ummah (race), secondly to prevent you from makan luar(zina). I know holy Christians practicing this makan luar..Lots of them.Because when you have desire to have more, you tak boleh nak kahwin, so, you pun makan luar. You and I are human being. Don't say that you never have desire to get more than what you have got!

13Friday

one of that bad side is that the family is too big to feed.

Oreng

Even 13Friday alone is not enough to feed..

Debmey

I fully agree with Friday 13th on this one.

Whenever we ask abt the system of polygamy in islam, muslims willl say that is the way to control promiscuity.
Here lies the obvious contradiction. Islam is in fact sending out the message that it is a man's right to have multiple sex partners one way or another. Muslims are not expected to control their lusts and espoect women. A man needs only to have sex with a woman at one time, so why do muslim mene need to have many wives?

Another contradiction is the lust of women. Don't women have lust too? What abt their rights to multiple sex partners?

eastrun

Originally posted by Debmey at 4-7-2006 04:28 PM
I fully agree with Friday 13th on this one.

Whenever we ask abt the system of polygamy in islam, muslims willl say that is the way to control promiscuity.
Here lies the obvious contradiction. I ...

There are many reasons why God gave man opportunity to marry max 4 women:

1)Today, woman is more than man in number. When a woman marries 4 man, what about other women?. Live alone until they die because have no man to be married. When a man marries max 4 women, at least each woman got chance to get married. This is logic. This is the solution. This also protecting women.

2) 13Friday, that's why Allah told us...if you can't afford to marry 4, it is enough for you to marry one. Kalau dah tak mampu, buat apa you nak poligami.

Debmey

Originally posted by eastrun at 4-7-2006 04:59 PM

There are many reasons why God gave man opportunity to marry max 4 women:

1)Today, woman is more than man in number. When a woman marries 4 man, what about other women?. Live alone until they die because have no man to be married. When a man marries max 4 women, at least each woman got chance to get married. This is logic. This is the solution. This also protecting women.

How much more? 4 to 1?
The ratio is almost 1 : 1 in nature.
Why do you think God create the ratio of 1 to 1?
And why must a woman be married in order to be protected? Can't the police protect? Can't society protect?
And since a man can only be at one place at a time, how can he protect 4 women all day?

2) 13Friday, that's why Allah told us...if you can't afford to marry 4, it is enough for you to marry one. Kalau dah tak mampu, buat apa you nak poligami.

Even if you can afford 4, you shldn't.

yusmar

Originally posted by 13Friday at 3-7-2006 06:55 PM
You call that Islamic weddings for lust?

http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/45724.html


Why are the women in Islam so cheap?  Islamists blame the west for decadence when they themselves do t ...

I am going to reply  to the news report.......and I do not agree to this form of 'so called legalised marriage'. As far as how I see it.......marriage is for life....not for a few days of sexual pleasure or money regardless whether the religion allows these kind of contractual marriage.

What happens to the woman when the man leaves.....he may pay a certain amount of money but how long will that money last.....and what about the child conceive from this marriage? Can the mother afford to keep the child? Ridiculous suggestion.

This kind of talk just to increase revenue for that certain country will make people have different perception of Islam....knowing for a fact that people are already looking at Islam in a negative view.

Just my 2 sens worth.

eastrun

Originally posted by Debmey at 4-7-2006 06:01 PM

How much more? 4 to 1?
The ratio is almost 1 : 1 in nature.
Why do you think God create the ratio of 1 to 1?
And why must a woman be married in order to be protected? Can't the police protect? ...

1) It shows that you are not alert and you are not reading. Recently, the ratio between man and woman is 1:11. So what is the solution?.Polygamy. No matter what you say, the number of woman is increasing and can never be stopped.Polygamy can protect women in many ways. You know women are weaker than men and that is the 'fitrah' of women. So, they need men in thier lifes to make thier lifes well protected. Other than that, prevent them from doing 'zina'

2) If you can afford to have more than 1 wife, you can. It's your money...and it's your right to give your love and money to your chosen women.

Debmey

Originally posted by eastrun at 5-7-2006 08:42 AM



1) It shows that you are not alert and you are not reading. Recently, the ratio between man and woman is 1:11. So what is the solution?.Polygamy. No matter what you say, the number of woman i ...

Not true.
The natural female to male birth ratio is 1 female to 1.05 males.
It is in fact more males are born.

So why did allah produce more males? For some women to have more husbands?

eastrun

Originally posted by Debmey at 5-7-2006 11:33 AM




Not true.
The natural female to male birth ratio is 1 female to 1.05 males.
It is in fact more males are born.

So why did allah produce more males? For some women to have more husbands?

Not true?..show me the evidence