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WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM) THE PROPHET OF ISLAM

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 Author| Post time 18-8-2006 12:38 PM | Show all posts
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the Old Testament:

The Qur抋n mentions in Surah Al-Araf chapter 7 verse 157:

"Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures) in the law and the Gospel".


1.   
MUHAMMAD (PBUH) PROPHESISED IN THE BOOK OF DEUTERONOMY:
  
Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18:

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and     he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

The Christians say that this prophecy refers to Jesus (pbuh) because Jesus (pbuh) was like Moses (pbuh). Moses   (pbuh) was a Jew, as well as Jesus (pbuh) was a Jew. Moses (pbuh) was a Prophet and Jesus (pbuh) was also a Prophet.

If these two are the only criteria for this prophecy to be fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible who came after
Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist, etc. (pbut) will   
fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as well as prophets.

However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is like Moses (pbuh):


i)   
Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus (pbuh) was born miraculously without any male intervention.

[Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an 3:42-47]


ii)   
Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not marry nor had children.

iii)   
Both died natural deaths. Jesus (pbuh) has been raised up alive. (4:157-158)
  
Muhammad (pbuh) is from among the brethren of Moses (pbuh). Arabs are brethren of Jews. Abraham (pbuh) had two sons: Ishmail and Isaac (pbut). The Arabs are the descendants of Ishmail (pbuh) and the Jews are the descendants of Isaac (pbuh).

Words in the mouth:

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was unlettered and whatever revelations he received from Almighty God he repeated them verbatim.

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

[Deuteronomy 18:18]


iv)   
Both besides being Prophets were also kings i.e. they could inflict capital punishment. Jesus (pbuh) said,     "My kingdom is not of this world." (John 18:36).

v)   
Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in their lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by his
people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He came unto his own, but his own received him not."

iv)   
Both brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not bring   any new laws. (Mathew 5:17-18).

2.   
It is Mentioned in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 18:19
  
"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will     require it of him."


3.   
Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:
  
It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12:

"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."

When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned".


  4.   
prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in the old testament:
  
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:

"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem."

"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters
of Jerusalem."

In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad      
(pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad     (pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet      present.


Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New Testament:

Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:

"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he came to them with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "

All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold good for the Christians.


1.   
John chapter 14 verse 16:
  "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."

2.   
Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
  
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which  
proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."

3.   
Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
  
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not
come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".

"Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or "the praised one" is almost the translation of the
Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English      translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter.   
Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the
Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a mercy for all creatures.

Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise
that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the
Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and    again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet     
Muhammad (pbuh).


4.   
Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:
  
"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is  
come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he     speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".

The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
NOTE: All quotations of the Bible are taken from the King James Version.


Weedkiller, please read the above again.
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Post time 18-8-2006 02:10 PM | Show all posts
However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is like Moses (pbuh):

and it's just based on this unsounding theory that the author concludes that Deut 18:18 is referring on Muhammad?

I've pushed and shown the facts that the verse refers to the Israelite and secondly is not regarding Jesus or Muhammad but just to remind us about true and false prophet if u read the whole passage. If you want to live in your own world and continue denying the facts, have it your own ways. I'm not a Christian, i've got nothing to lose...
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 Author| Post time 18-8-2006 04:29 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by weedkiller at 18-8-2006 02:10 PM

and it's just based on this unsounding theory that the author concludes that Deut 18:18 is referring on Muhammad?

I've pushed and shown the facts that the verse refers to the Israelite and sec ...

I've pushed and shown the facts that the verse refers to the Israelite and secondly is not regarding Jesus or Muhammad but just to remind us about true and false prophet if u read the whole passage. If you want to live in your own world and continue denying the facts, have it your own ways. I'm not a Christian, i've got nothing to lose...


Read slowly here:-

"I WILL RAISE THEM UP A PROPHET FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN LIKE UNTO THEE......." The emphasis is on the words- "From among their brethren." Moses and his people, the Jews, are here addressed as a racial entity, and as such their 'brethren' would undoubtedly be the Arabs. You see, the Holy Bible speaks of Abraham as the "Friend of God". Abraham had two wives - Sarah and Hagar. Hagar bore Abraham a son - HIS FIRST-BORN- '......And Abraham1 called HIS SON'S name, which Hagar bare Ishmael.' (Genesis 16:15). 'And Abraham took Ishmael HIS SON......" (Genesis 17:23). 'And Ishmael HIS SON was thirteen years old, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.'(Genesis 17:25). Up to the age of THIRTEEN Ishmael was the ONLY son and seed of Abraham, when the covenant was ratified between God and Abraham. God grants Abraham another son through Sarah, named Isaac, who was very much the junior to his brother Ishmael.

If Ishmael and Isaac are the sons of the same father Abraham, then they are brothers. And so the children of the one are the BRETHREN of the children of the other. The children of Isaac are the Jews and the Children of Ishmael are the Arabs - so they are BRETHREN to one another. The Bible affirms, 'AND HE (ISHMAEL) SHALL DWELL IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.' (Genesis 16:12). 'AND HE (ISHMAEL) DIED IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.(Genesis 25:18). The children of Isaac are the brethren of the Ishmaelites. In like manner Muhummed is from among the brethren of the Israelites because he was a descendant of Ishmael the son of Abraham. This exactly as the prophecy has it- 'FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN'.(Deut.18:18). There the prophecy distinctly mentions that the coming prophet who would be like Moses, must arise NOT from the 'children of Israel' or from 'among themselves', but from among their brethren. MUHUMMED THEREFORE WAS FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN.
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Post time 18-8-2006 05:34 PM | Show all posts
So now, Muhammad is an Israelite? or an Arab?
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Post time 18-8-2006 07:30 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by weedkiller at 18-8-2006 05:34 PM
So now, Muhammad is an Israelite? or an Arab?


The Arabs and the Jews are cousins...both semitic.... but race   or ancestry is not the criteria for all are equal before God.. its the faith in Him that matters most

[ Last edited by  KENNKID at 18-8-2006 07:35 PM ]
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Originally posted by weedkiller at 18-8-2006 05:34 PM
So now, Muhammad is an Israelite? or an Arab?


I think u r very confused.
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Post time 18-8-2006 07:59 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by SilentKiller at 18-8-2006 07:46 PM


I think u r very confused.

and your answer is?
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Originally posted by weedkiller at 18-8-2006 07:59 PM

and your answer is?


Muhammad is an arab. Are u clear now ?
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Post time 18-8-2006 08:12 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by SilentKiller at 18-8-2006 08:01 PM


Muhammad is an arab. Are u clear now ?

An arab fitting into a Biblical description of an Israelite prophet?
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Originally posted by weedkiller at 18-8-2006 08:12 PM

An arab fitting into a Biblical description of an Israelite prophet?

In like manner Muhummed is from among the brethren of the Israelites because he was a descendant of Ishmael the son of Abraham. This exactly as the prophecy has it- 'FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN'.(Deut.18:18). There the prophecy distinctly mentions that the coming prophet who would be like Moses, must arise NOT from the 'children of Israel' or from 'among themselves', but from among their brethren. MUHUMMED THEREFORE WAS FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN


CLEAR NOW ?
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"I WILL RAISE THEM UP A PROPHET FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN LIKE UNTO THEE......." The emphasis is on the words- "From among their brethren." Moses and his people, the Jews, are here addressed as a racial entity, and as such their 'brethren' would undoubtedly be the Arabs. You see, the Holy Bible speaks of Abraham as the "Friend of God". Abraham had two wives - Sarah and Hagar. Hagar bore Abraham a son - HIS FIRST-BORN- '......And Abraham1 called HIS SON'S name, which Hagar bare Ishmael.' (Genesis 16:15). 'And Abraham took Ishmael HIS SON......" (Genesis 17:23). 'And Ishmael HIS SON was thirteen years old, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.'(Genesis 17:25). Up to the age of THIRTEEN Ishmael was the ONLY son and seed of Abraham, when the covenant was ratified between God and Abraham. God grants Abraham another son through Sarah, named Isaac, who was very much the junior to his brother Ishmael.


CLEARER NOW ?

[ Last edited by  SilentKiller at 18-8-2006 08:35 PM ]
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Post time 18-8-2006 09:24 PM | Show all posts
I will raise up a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites.

It means that; I (God) will raise up a prophet like you (Moses author of the book Deuteronomy) from the Israelite.

Plus Ishmael was rejected by Abraham in the Bible, nothing more nothing less. And there's no mention about any crap relating to the descendants of Abraham or Ishmael. Just Israelites.
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The emphasis is on the words- "From among their brethren." Moses and his people, the Jews, are here addressed as a racial entity, and as such their 'brethren' would undoubtedly be the Arabs.

any proof in this ah? any sort of written agreement that the word "brethen" must be the Arabs?
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Post time 19-8-2006 12:17 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by weedkiller at 18-8-2006 09:26 PM

any proof in this ah? any sort of written agreement that the word "brethen" must be the Arabs?


it's already the 5th page...
and i don't think u follow what SilentKiller explained about ..
because if u did..
u won't asked that question... :nerd:
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Post time 19-8-2006 12:31 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by karengkang at 19-8-2006 12:17 AM


it's already the 5th page...
and i don't think u follow what SilentKiller explained about ..
because if u did..
u won't asked that question... :nerd:

if he would read what i said, he wouldn't have to repeat himself now isn't it?
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Post time 19-8-2006 01:18 AM | Show all posts
So now you are calling the Jews - brethren???

And Muhammad said to kill all Jews where ever you find them?

Sounds like Muhammad just wants to be part of the "prophet" gang.
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Originally posted by weedkiller at 18-8-2006 09:26 PM

any proof in this ah? any sort of written agreement that the word "brethen" must be the Arabs?


Do you understand what is "brethren" means??
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Originally posted by nightlord at 19-8-2006 01:18 AM
So now you are calling the Jews - brethren???

And Muhammad said to kill all Jews where ever you find them?

Sounds like Muhammad just wants to be part of the "prophet" gang.


You are a way OFF TOPIC ff:
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brethren

archaic plural of BROTHER.

  • plural noun fellow Christians or members of a male religious order.

I see...
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/brethren?view=uk - OXFORD Dictionary.

And again i don't see any written agreement that it must be the Arabs.
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Originally posted by weedkiller at 19-8-2006 01:45 PM
brethren

archaic plural of BROTHER.

  • plural noun fellow Christians or members of a male religious order.

I see...
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/brethren?view=uk - OXFORD D ...


You are ignoring the facts. If i follow ur logic, then i can argue also that JESUS wasnt mentioned by NAME on his coming in Old Testament. Is JESUS mentioned by name ? Come on la, i have already given u all the verses in Bible about Muhammad, u still deny it, so i cant say anymore.
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