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The Bible mentioned abt Human Spirit(roh) but Muslims unable to explain

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 Author| Post time 5-10-2006 10:04 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by anticuado at 5-10-2006 09:58 PM
tok sah ko layan sgt truth8 tu digweed....... selalunya dia akan tanya soalan  and bila kt jawap dia akan balas balik dengan hujah2 dia... lepas tuh bila kt bagi jawapan balas terhadap hujah2 dia t ...



haiya, muslims  ckp ada sedikit maklumat pasal roh. tunjunkan lah. sekurang-kurangnya saya dah buktikan bahawa 'spirit control mind' dlm kitab kami. kitab kamu ada sedikit maklumat itu??
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 Author| Post time 5-10-2006 10:08 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by digweed at 5-10-2006 09:23 PM
huh,soalan bodoh ye...saya mempersoalkan tentang kenyataan kamu itu.Janganlah berlagak pandai pula kalau awak tak dapat nak jawab.Adakah seseorang itu masih mempunyai ruh jika dia gila/mereng/teren ...



saya bukan berlaga pandai tetapi saya tanya hang, di mana sedikit maklumat yang menyatakan ruh dlm koran kamu. tunjukan lah. dlm kitab kami dah tulis bahawa ruh dlm akal.

kalau seorang itu gila atau sakit mental....punca nya ....ruh dia kurang iman atau faktor2 lain tetapi ruh dia dlm akal dia.

tetapi ada seorang muslims berkata ruh di seluruh badan. logik ke????

ok, skrg saya menunggu jawapan anda pasal sedikit maklumat tersebut?
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 Author| Post time 5-10-2006 10:15 PM | Show all posts
Romman 8:6

For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

the above is nicely explained but muslims failed understand where does the spirit in our body. some muslims says it all over body.

hehhehehe
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Post time 5-10-2006 10:19 PM | Show all posts
best gak layan orang mereng tak faham bahasa ni... :lol
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Post time 5-10-2006 10:20 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 5-10-2006 10:04 PM
haiya, muslims  ckp ada sedikit maklumat pasal roh. tunjunkan lah. sekurang-kurangnya saya dah buktikan bahawa 'spirit control mind' dlm kitab kami. kitab kamu ada sedikit maklumat itu??



As the verse says "the Spirit is the matter of The Lord and you are not told about it but only a little of it". That is the final answer.

- MENJ
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 Author| Post time 5-10-2006 10:25 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by MENJ at 5-10-2006 10:20 PM



As the verse says "the Spirit is the matter of The Lord and you are not told about it but only a little of it". That is the final answer.

- MENJ



but it says " 85. Dan mereka bertanya kepadamu tentang roh. Katakan: Roh itu dari perkara urusan Tuhanku dan kamu tidak diberikan ilmu pengetahuan melainkan sedikit sahaja.  
( Surah al isra 85 )"

so little information is not available in ur islamic teachings??

No wonder Christians and Jews are  knowlege on Spirit so that we not fool with  false prophet. The Bible says "
1 John 4:1
[ Test the Spirits ] Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.


Since Muhammad unable to furnish details on spirit , we still consider him as false prophet. The Jews are well verse in spirit things. so u cannot fool them

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Post time 5-10-2006 10:30 PM | Show all posts
forever brain damage to truth8...
u've still got time to find doctor dude... :lol
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 Author| Post time 5-10-2006 10:32 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by juwaini at 5-10-2006 10:30 PM
forever brain damage to truth8...
u've still got time to find doctor dude... :lol



any comment on the issue of spirit ? ur muslims friends says the spirit is all over body. hahahahahhahh what a joke.
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Post time 5-10-2006 10:34 PM | Show all posts
Kalau nak kata banyak tu takde lah tapi di antara yang sedikit itu ialah

Dan Maryam putri Imran yang memelihara kehormatannya, maka Kami tiupkan ke dalam rahimnya sebagian dari roh (ciptaan) Kami; dan dia membenarkan kalimat-kalimat Tuhannya dan Kitab-kitab-Nya; dan adalah dia termasuk orang-orang yang taat. Surah Attah'riim 12

Dalam Kalam Allah memang tidak dinyatakan di mana letaknya roh.

anticuado,
bersabar saja lah.Moga Allah menujukkan kebenaran kepada orang-orang kafir dan jahil.Insyaallah
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 Author| Post time 5-10-2006 10:40 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by digweed at 5-10-2006 10:34 PM
Kalau nak kata banyak tu takde lah tapi di antara yang sedikit itu ialah

Dan Maryam putri Imran yang memelihara kehormatannya, maka Kami tiupkan ke dalam rahimnya sebagian dari roh (ciptaan) Kami; dan dia membenarkan kalimat-kalimat Tuhannya dan Kitab-kitab-Nya; dan adalah dia termasuk orang-orang yang taat. Surah Attah'riim 12

Dalam Kalam Allah memang tidak dinyatakan di mana letaknya roh.

anticuado,
bersabar saja lah.Moga Allah menujukkan kebenaran kepada orang-orang kafir dan jahil.Insyaallah ...


kisah pasal marayam dah pun tulis di mana Tuhan tipukan Holy Spirit ke atas rahim nya

memandangkan koran kamu tidak menyebut di mana ruh dlm badan kita maka saya kena lah tolak koran dan muhammad kerana ia bukan dtg dari Tuhan yg benar.

dlm kitab kami  menjelaskan ruh itu dlm akal seorang manusia. jadi , tidak adalah kami keliru.

kalau tanya orang2 yahudi pasal hal2 ini,   mereka memang pakar soal2 macam ini.

[ Last edited by  Truth.8 at 5-10-2006 10:42 PM ]
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Post time 5-10-2006 10:51 PM | Show all posts
Dan adakah kamu merasakan bahwa kitab kamu itu sebenar-benar kitab?
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Post time 5-10-2006 10:55 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 5-10-2006 10:25 PM

so little information is not available in ur islamic teachings??

No wonder Christians and Jews are  knowlege on Spirit
( Surah al ...


In what sense they know so much about it? even if you google pun there will be abundances of "soul theories-life after death, soul journey after death" , by islamic scholars, but there is no physical scientific truth about it, only God knows what we dont know. Matters pertaining spirits, souls dan "alam ghaib" pun takde proof dalam modern sciences. Cuba buktikan dengan nyata scientific evidence on this. Tak payah nak quote mana2 ayat yg ada mention "Spirits of Mind" because it brings no meaning to your claims on "Roh ada kat Otak"
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 Author| Post time 5-10-2006 10:57 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by digweed at 5-10-2006 10:51 PM
Dan adakah kamu merasakan bahwa kitab kamu itu sebenar-benar kitab?


mestilah , kalau tidak tak kan saya menerima kitab ini sebagai panduan saya.
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 Author| Post time 5-10-2006 11:01 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by loona at 5-10-2006 10:55 PM

In what sense they know so much about it? even if you google pun there will be abundances of "soul theories-life after death, soul journey after death" , by islamic scholars, but there is no physical scientific truth about it, only God knows what we dont know. Matters pertaining spirits, souls dan "alam ghaib" pun takde proof dalam modern sciences. Cuba buktikan dengan nyata scientific evidence on this. Tak payah nak quote mana2 ayat yg ada mention "Spirits of Mind" because it brings no meaning to your claims on "Roh ada kat Otak"  ...


The Bible made it very clear that the spirit is located in mind inside the brain. The spirit cannot be seen by humans.

This spirit mind will control us in our body. that is why it says 'evil spirit & good spirit' if one pray and spiritually connections with true God, we can have clean spirit in mind and we behave sound mind but we have different fake god, than peoples goes like hysterical behaviour like demons and etc because possessed by evil spirit in their human sprit mind


[ Last edited by  Truth.8 at 5-10-2006 11:03 PM ]
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Post time 5-10-2006 11:28 PM | Show all posts
layan truth8, buang masa aje..
bila kita dah jawab, dia pusing lagi..
cakap berbelit2.. :lol
anyway, still good source of humour..
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Post time 5-10-2006 11:50 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by juwaini at 5-10-2006 11:28 PM
layan truth8, buang masa aje..
bila kita dah jawab, dia pusing lagi..
cakap berbelit2.. :lol
anyway, still good source of humour..


hehehe...just layan untuk tahu sejauh mana dia berpusing2. Tapi satu aja kelebihan dia, TAK KENAL ERTI PENAT PERPUSING. Tapi aku doakan dia berjumpa dengan the TRUTH yang dia cari...mana tahu dalam keghairahan mencari akan bertemu dengan NUR.
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 Author| Post time 6-10-2006 12:43 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by juwaini at 5-10-2006 11:28 PM
layan truth8, buang masa aje..
bila kita dah jawab, dia pusing lagi..
cakap berbelit2.. :lol
anyway, still good source of humour..


belit2....or u belit2 until cannot explaine the source of spirit in mind??
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 Author| Post time 6-10-2006 12:45 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by loona at 5-10-2006 11:50 PM
hehehe...just layan untuk tahu sejauh mana dia berpusing2. Tapi satu aja kelebihan dia, TAK KENAL ERTI PENAT PERPUSING. Tapi aku doakan dia berjumpa dengan the TRUTH yang dia cari...mana tahu dalam keghairahan mencari akan bertemu dengan NUR. ...



kelebihan saya ada pada fakta dan logik dlm Bible tetapi tiada dlm islam kerana masih gagal dlm soal ruh.
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Post time 6-10-2006 12:49 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 6-10-2006 12:45 AM



kelebihan saya ada pada fakta dan logik dlm Bible tetapi tiada dlm islam kerana masih gagal dlm soal ruh.


ni lagi satu bukti akal mr bean dia...
fakta dan logik?
dan u yakin dengan ajaran kristian berdasarkan gerak hati?
mana dia letaknya fakta dan logik?
takpe, takpe...
teruskan merapu dalam forum ni..
ada juga bahan untuk i gelak.. :lol
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 Author| Post time 6-10-2006 01:44 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by juwaini at 6-10-2006 12:49 AM


ni lagi satu bukti akal mr bean dia...
fakta dan logik?
dan u yakin dengan ajaran kristian berdasarkan gerak hati?
mana dia letaknya fakta dan logik?
takpe, takpe...
teruskan merapu dalam forum ni..
ada juga bahan untuk i gelak.. ...



so? why not u explaine what is human spirit and where it located?

did not I  wrote the human spirit located in brain know  as mind and controll by spirit.

....ur muslims says the spirit is all over the body....hahahhahahahah so funny lah muhammad followers
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