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WAHHABI HINA, MENSYIRIKKKAN, MEMBID'AHKAN SAHABAT NABI?

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Post time 4-4-2007 11:49 AM | Show all posts
Wahabi Suicide Bomb Kills 12 Children in Kirkuk?
KIRKUK, Iraq, April 2--A suicide bomber blew up a truck near a primary school and police station in Iraq's northern city of Kirkuk Monday, killing 12 people, including a baby.

Police officials said another 178 people were wounded in the blast that caused extensive damage at a time when US troops were apparently visiting the police station.

Many of the wounded were pupils at the nearby school and local residents, after the suicide bomber blew up the truck outside the criminal investigations department in the north Kirkuk district of Rahimawa.

Ambulances in the city used loudspeakers to call on people to go to hospitals to donate blood following the attack.

The explosion caused extensive damage, but the area was sealed off by police, with officers barring journalists from viewing the bomb site.

Separately, a roadside bomb targeting a police patrol in south Kirkuk wounded five policeman, police said.

Insurgent attacks are common in Kirkuk, which sits atop a third of the country's oil resources.

Meanwhile, gunmen kidnapped and killed 21 workers on their way home from Baghdad to the province of Diyala to its north, officials and a medic said.

The workers, employed in Baghdad's popular Shorja market, were abducted Sunday as they headed home after work by gunmen who ambushed their minibus and took them away to an unknown destination.

On Monday, their handcuffed and blindfolded bodies were found near a water treatment plant in Morariyah village in Diyala.

An official said there were six more workers who were kidnapped and are still missing.

He said the victims were from Jaizan al-Imam village and were seized near an area called Ghalibiyah, north of Baghdad.
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Post time 4-4-2007 04:47 PM | Show all posts
Assalamualaikum,

Lama tak masuk forum nie. Tapi perdebatannya tak jauh beza dari 1-2 thn lepas ... nampaknya kawan2 yang lama pun masih ada.
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Post time 4-4-2007 04:54 PM | Show all posts
Actually I sedih dan letih tengok umat  Islam dok bertengkar tak habis2 ...... Marilah kita berbincang utk penyatuan. Singkirkan pertelingkahan pendapat pada perkara ranting dan balek lah kpd Quran/Hadith sebagai rujukan. Kalau masing2 ada hujjah .... ikutlah apa yang kita senangi dan jangan dihina pendapat lain yang juga berlandaskan hujjah/nas.  Saya pastekan satu article yang saya rasa relevent to describe current Muslim issues among muslim.  

Lets apply it across the 4 Mazhabs as well as shiah Vs Sunni.


Muslim Unity
8 Feb 2006
Khalid


"I gave a lot of thought to the causes of the sorry state of this ummah, during the years of my captivity in Malta," said Sheikh-ul-Hind Maulana Mahmood-ul-Hasan. It was 1920, and at 69, he was not only one of the most distinguished scholars of his time, he also had spent a life time in political activism. His audience was a gathering of ulema, eager to hear the lessons of a life time of study, struggle, and reflection. His conclusion: "Our problems are caused by two factors; abandoning the Qur'an and our in-fighting." He spent the few remaining days of his life addressing these causes.


These reasons are valid even today. They are also related, the second being caused by the first. The Qur'an had declared us one brotherhood and had warned us against in-fighting. We have ignored those teachings and the billion-strong ummah has turned into an ummah fragmented into a billion segments.

A very large number of our internal battles is the result of narrowly defined self-interests. Islam could have been the force that helped us overcome that. Unfortunately, instead of letting it fulfill that role, today we have made even religion provide us with additional and unresolvable points of conflict. We fight over petty issues of fiqh. We fight over fine points of religious interpretation. We turn minor points of religious law into big battlegrounds while most important and fundamental teachings of religion are violated.

We do all this even as this religion has been under attack
from all directions. Thousands of people become apostates every year in Pakistan. Qadianis (who declare Mirza Ghulam Ahmed of Qadian to be a prophet), and munkareen-e-hadith have been busy attracting our new generations to their falsehoods. Haram is being declared as halal. Our masses are ignorant of their religion and easily indulge in customs borrowed from polytheists. On top of all that is the western culture of hedonism, of shamelessness, of moral anarchy, that is invading our societies through film, television, radio, and obscene literature. Corruption of all sorts has permeated all layers of our society. Should not we be reflecting on this and asking ourselves what would the Prophet, Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam, expect of us, the heirs of the prophets? In the hereafter shall we be able to give a sufficient answer by mentioning that we wrote a book on rafa-yadain (the issue of raising hands during certain movements in obligatory prayer)?

Once I saw Maulana Anwar Shah Kashmiri in a very sad mood. What is the matter, I asked. "I have wasted my whole life," he said. "You have spent your entire life in spreading Islamic teachings.

Thousands of your disciples are themselves ulema who are serving the religion. If that is a waste, what hope can anyone else have?" I insisted. "Look, what has been the main thrust of all our efforts," he replied. "It has been to show why Hanafi school is better than others. Imam Abu Hanifa did not need this. His grandeur did not need our approval. Imam Shafii, Imam Malik, and Imam Ahmed ibn Hanbal could not care less about it. All that one can ever prove in these matters is that a certain position is right but has the probability of being wrong and the other position is wrong but has the probability of being right. Moreover, these issues will not be resolved even in the hereafter. For Allah will not humiliate Imam Shafii, Abu Hanifa, Malik, or Ahmed bin Hanbal by showing that they were in error." Then he added: "Today when the roots of Islam are under attack, we have been busy taking care of the leaves."


It is not that debates or disagreements in religious interpretation are themselves evil. Today many western educated Muslims, with scant understanding of their religion do think that way. Some even suggest that we should bury all fiqhi schools and create a new one. This is neither possible nor desirable. Differences of opinion are inevitable wherever people have both intellect and honesty. Complete consensus on every issue is possible only when either everyone is dumb, so they cannot think of a different idea, or they are dishonest so they willingly agree with a position that they consider wrong. After all religious interpretations are not personal rights that can be sacrificed away.


The problem occurs when we overstate these differences. There were differences of opinion in fiqh among the Companions, their followers, and great Mujahideen. But they did not turn these into fights. They disagreed but they maintained respect and love for each other. The brotherhood remained intact. They had tolerance for the other view.

How can we have tolerance for something we know is wrong? Of course we cannot have any tolerance for anything clearly established as wrong by Qur'an or Hadith. We can never show accommodation for apostasy. We can never agree on changing the Shariah's established definitions of halal and haram. But beyond this there are issues about which Qur'an and Sunnah are silent or are subject to more than one interpretation. Here the mujahideen deduce the intent of Qur'an and Sunnah based on their best ability. Here disagreements are possible. As long as those involved are qualified mujahideen (like the four respected imams), their differing views have to be respected. We can follow only one opinion, and we should try and determine the one closest to the intent of the Shariah, but we cannot declare opposing views as evil. We exaggerate when we deal with people holding valid opposing views as if they were outside the bounds of Islam.


Overstatement (ghuloo) is the main cause of most fights involving our religious groups. It also happens with Islamic organizations. Most are doing useful work in the areas they chose based on their abilities and inclinations. Had they developed a spirit of cooperation and considered their differences as just a natural division of labor, together they could have become a formidable force. Unfortunately each one of them considers their work and methodology as the only methodology for Islamic work. If a person leaves one of these organizations to join another, he is treated as if he had recanted his faith. This is ghuloo. It produces the tribalism of jahiliya (the pre-Islamic period of ignorance) among religious workers.

Pious people are not extinct today. What we sorely need is the reformers who can rise above their narrow perspectives and heed the universal and unifying call of Islam.

[Adapted from two talks of Mufti Muhammad Shafi, the late grand Mufti of Pakistan, given in 1963.]
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Post time 4-4-2007 05:29 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Gapodio at 4-4-2007 04:54 PM
Actually I sedih dan letih tengok umat  Islam dok bertengkar tak habis2 ...... Marilah kita berbincang utk penyatuan. Singkirkan pertelingkahan pendapat pada perkara ranting dan balek lah kpd Qur ...


:setuju:  Usaha-usaha penyatuan ini di Pakistan telah lama cuba diperjuangkan oleh Gerakan Islam Jemaat i-Islami yang di pimpin oleh Maulana Abul Ala Al-Maududi.Beliau menentang hebat gerakan Qadiani tapi anehnya beliau bukan saja ditentang kembali oleh golongan Qadiani tersebut malah dihalalkan darahnya oleh puak-puak Wahabi yang berpemikiran sempit. Diberitakan bahawa kesyahidan beliau ini adalah konspirasi yang dilakukan oleh puak-puak ini yang cuba menyaingi ketokohan beliau di Pakistan. Beliau syahid akibat sakit mata...sesuatu kematian yang diluar kebiasaan.
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Post time 4-4-2007 10:44 PM | Show all posts
Gravedigger ..... Kalau dah lama di perjuangkan marilah kita pakat2 menyambung perjuangan itu .... janganlah di besarkan lagi pecah yang ada ... pakat2 main peranan untuk penyatuan. Itu pun SUNNAH nabi yang besar juga.
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Post time 5-4-2007 06:22 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Gapodio at 4-4-2007 10:44 PM
Gravedigger ..... Kalau dah lama di perjuangkan marilah kita pakat2 menyambung perjuangan itu .... janganlah di besarkan lagi pecah yang ada ... pakat2 main peranan untuk penyatuan. Itu pun SUNNA ...


Betul...tapi kena ingat juga. Apakah pembelaan yang boleh diberikan kepada golongan yang tertindas itu? Ambil kes di Pakistan dimana setiap tahun golongan minoriti syiah di bunuh dan di bom oleh wahabi semasa mereka merayakan hari asyura. Apakah golongan ini perlu berdiam diri saja ataupun menyerahkan saja leher-leher mereka untuk disembelih oleh puak-puak tu? Bukannya tidak ada dialog sebelumnya tapi akibat tak mampu nak berhujjah maka jalan mudah itulah diambil mereka.
Ambil pula contoh yang berlaku di Iraq sekarang ini. Bukankah setiap hari kita didengarkan dengan berita golongan syiah di bunuh dan dibom tanpa mengira anak-anak kecil, orang tua ataupun wanita akibat fatwa-fatwa sesat yang mengkafirkan mereka.
Jangan heran jika telah ada fatwa-fatwa tersebut diadakan dan disebarkan melalui negeri kecil di utara sehingga menghalalkan darah orang syiah di Malaysia pula.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aoCicazc_A&mode=related&search=
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Post time 5-4-2007 10:26 PM | Show all posts
Hmmm .... bottomline pertengakaran ini merugikan umat Islam.

Pada pandangan peribadi saya pembunuhan Sunni dan Syiah adalah fitnah yang malang bagi orang Islam ... bukan saja Syiah yang menjadi kurban, sunni pun sama. Bagi saya benda tu terjadi sebab masing2 EXTREME dgn fahaman masing2 dan tidak ada tolak ansur ....... dua2 pehak bersalah pada pandangan saya.

Apakah kita di Malaysia pun ingin mengambil contoh2 negetive yang berlaku di luar negara? .... kenapa kita tidak boleh advance dari mereka dan memberi contoh yang lebih baik? - Berbaik2 sesama Islam.

Tiap kita boleh memainkan peranan ...  kalau kita tidak berfikiran kearah perpaduan ... perpecahanlah yang akan datang.
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Post time 6-4-2007 05:04 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Gapodio at 5-4-2007 10:26 PM
Hmmm .... bottomline pertengakaran ini merugikan umat Islam.

Pada pandangan peribadi saya pembunuhan Sunni dan Syiah adalah fitnah yang malang bagi orang Islam ... bukan saja Syiah yang menjad ...


Setuju! Justeru serangan2 perlu dihentikan supaya tidak berlaku serangan balas. Imam Khomeini telah lama mengajak perpaduan antara sunnah dan syiah dan disambut oleh ulama2 dari gerakan2 Islam dan antaranya ialah Maulana Maududi dan TG Nik Aziz sendiri. Terakhir ini sudah berubah pula nada TG Hadi Awang yang suatu masa dulu hebat mengutuk syiah. Sekarang ini mungkin beliau telah menyertai Majma' Taqrib Bainal-Mazahib yang berpusatkan di Teheran maka sudah ada nada yang berbeza dari beliau.
Cuma sekarang ini yang nak lihat ialah lama mana Abang Mufti Perlis mau berkokok? Mungkin dah basi publisiti nanti baru dia mau diam kot.
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