A Convenant that never happened

Debmey

Originally posted by WLIO at 25-2-2007 11:13 PM



Because bible have too many version so we don't know which is the true bible.
Anyway bible is just like a bed time story book


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New International Vers ...

No Bible says that the ark landed on mt.Ararat. You must be a fool WLIO. Its seems you are stuck.


and still no muslim can tell us hoiw can it be a local flood when it supposedly carried teh ark 17000 ft above sea level.

WLIO

New International Version   1ButGodrememberedNoahand all the wild animals and the livestockthatwere withhim in theark,and he sent a wind over the earth, andthewatersreceded. 2 Now the springs of the deep and the floodgates of the heavens had been closed, and the rain had stopped falling from the sky. 3 The water receded steadily from the earth. At the end of the hundred and fifty days the water had gone down, 4 and on the seventeenth day of the seventh month the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat. 5Thewaterscontinuedto recede until the tenth month, and on the firstdayof thetenth monththe tops of the mountains became visible.

Debmey

mountains of Ararat, not mout ararat.

You see, you can't read.

WLIO

New International Version  

1ButGodrememberedNoahandall the wild animals and the livestockthatwere withhim in theark,and hesent a wind over the earth, andthewatersreceded.
2 Now the springs of the deep and the floodgates of the heavens had been closed, and the rain had stopped falling from the sky.

3 The water receded steadily from the earth. At the end of the hundred and fifty days the water had gone down,
4 and on the seventeenth day of the seventh month the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat.
5Thewaterscontinuedto recede until the tenth month, and on the firstdayof thetenth monththe tops of the mountains became visible.

Debmey

yep thats right. It says mountains of Ararat, not mount Ararat itself.

You failed to read.

Debmey

yep thats right. It says mountains of Ararat, not mount Ararat itself.

You failed to read.

WLIO

New International Version  

1ButGodrememberedNoahandallthe wild animals and the livestockthatwere withhim in theark,and hesenta wind over the earth, andthewatersreceded.
2 Now the springs of the deep and the floodgates of the heavens had been closed, and the rain had stopped falling from the sky.

3 The water receded steadily from the earth. At the end of the hundred and fifty days the water had gone down,
4 and on the seventeenth day of the seventh month the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat.
5Thewaterscontinuedto recede until the tenth month, and on the firstdayof thetenth monththe tops of the mountains became visible.

Pity Debmey doesn抰 know Hebrew language for Agri Dagh is  揂rarat

eastrun

"Then the word went forth: "O earth! swallow up thy water, and O sky! Withhold (thy rain)!" and the water abated, and the matter was ended. The Ark rested on Mount Judi, and the word went forth: "Away with those who do wrong!" (Surah Hud 11:44).

So, Quran mentioned the right place, isn't it?.

Debmey

Not true. The location of Mt.Judi itself is confusing.
Its more like muslims insisting that the mountain be called judi after the ship structure was found. The actual measurements of the ark matches the Bible exactly. Does the Quran specify the size like the Bible?

Debmey

And the unanswered question still remains.

Since muslims claim that the flood was local and the ark landed on mt.judi and it is 7000 ft, so how can a localised flood send the ark so high? Aren't muslism contradicting themselves? Any takers?

eastrun

I really wonder..what is the core topic?. The core topic is about a convenant that still not to been fulfilled until now,right.

I ve read the measurement of the ark in the Bible. Well..until now the Christian scientists also didn't found the ark with exact measurement mentioned in the Bible, either on the Mount Ararat or Mount Judi.

Show me the article claimed the Muslims named the Mount as Mount Judi after we have found the ark...

i212

Originally posted by Debmey at 26-2-2007 08:05 PM
And the unanswered question still remains.

Since muslims claim that the flood was local and the ark landed on mt.judi and it is 7000 ft, so how can a localised flood send the ark so high? Are ...

Think this.

In Johor Flood Disaster.
Kota Tinggi And Segamat totally flooded as high as 2 storey in CERTAIN PLaces.
Why there is no flood in JB?
Think...

Debmey

Originally posted by i212 at 26-2-2007 11:07 PM


Think this.

In Johor Flood Disaster.
Kota Tinggi And Segamat totally flooded as high as 2 storey in CERTAIN PLaces.
Why there is no flood in JB?
Think...

Only 2 storey? Is that your quran flood too? Only 2 storey?

i212

Originally posted by Debmey at 26-2-2007 11:09 PM



Only 2 storey? Is that your quran flood too? Only 2 storey?

Aiyaa... Its just an example...

Even in small area, one side have deeper flood and one side have none.

So.. think out of box.

7000ft at that mountain, not meaning all the earth flooded.

And one thing, Earth surface changed.

Even last time, Asia in ONE large Land.
Now its Separated.

And Even Everest now believe become lower than before.

Think bro. Its common sense.

Debmey

how can flood up to 7000 ft in one area not be global in nature? please explain.

Most scientists believed that it was a local event and happened as long as 100 millennia ago. These are just a few scientific reasonings besides other overwhelming factors such archeological evidences and most important

Debmey

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Most scientists believed that it was a local event and happened as long as 100 millennia ago. These are just a few scientific reasonings besides other overwhelming factors such archeological evidences and most important

Quran dont dwell much on this aspect Debmey, but the scientists are making discoveries more on this logics than your biblical stories.

Universal implies that had happened to Prophet Noah pbuh world, his personal world, not global scale.

Debmey

scientists found indications of a catastrophic world wide flood.

Did the Quran said it happened only around noah? Where? Please show us.

Are you saying that noah lived 100 millenia ago?

you realise how confused you muslims are?