Question about MiG-29N

alien7749

I've a chat with my friend recently, which he is a sub-supplier to ATSC. He once had a talk with ATSC Engineer. According to him, actually, a very few of our MiG-29 are combat capable. While others are only airworthy condition. Anybody can confirm this?

tiongman777

The aircraft maybe combat capable, but are our fighter pilots combat capable too? For that matter, are our entire airforce capable as well?

innocentti

this is a question or simply a statement from you?

[ Last edited by  innocentti at 12-8-2008 01:52 PM ]

tin

tengok jugak depa punya definition of combat capable tuh.

kengkadang depa ni memacam ndaknya.

misalannya radar. radar MiG-29N ni idak le sehebat MKM. so kira tak la combat capable macam MKM.

satu lagi contoh MiG-29 ni interceptor. so, dia idak le combat capable sangat bila kena buat misi bom mengebom nih.

tin

our air force are not entirely combat capable.

some are cooks, some are clerks, some are techno geeks and some are engineers. there's even those who, like you, assume and presume things.

[ Last edited by  tin at 12-8-2008 01:56 PM ]

tangopapa

same to you

tin

and you can shed a brighter light on this issue?

tangopapa

no need....feel free to be fool by answering all the question? look through the aimsight, not the target.

tangopapa

can i confirm how many superskyhawk n f16 is "combat capable" in ur underground bunker first?

tin

there are more ways than one to skin a cat...

tangopapa

this is still one of the ways....

alphawolf

Because our Air Force, like many other air forces are not like the US Marines who are riflemen first and foremost

areguard

MiG29N ni pd pandangan aku, TUDM akan deploy to the maximum service life and then retire them since by that time the su30 already enter into service, additional procurementpun mungkin su30s juga..

gancity

if not ur friend mayb jobless now... for those not 100% fit are waiting for schedule maintenance

alien7749

Originally posted by gancity at 12-8-2008 11:21 PM
if not ur friend mayb jobless now... for those not 100% fit are waiting for schedule maintenance

With 'tiris' and 'bocor' sindrome in our G, this could happen. Maintenance with only one eye open.

alien7749

Originally posted by tin at 12-8-2008 01:49 PM
tengok jugak depa punya definition of combat capable tuh.

kengkadang depa ni memacam ndaknya.

misalannya radar. radar MiG-29N ni idak le sehebat MKM. so kira tak la combat capable macam MKM ...

you need to understand the different between combat capable and airworthy or flyable condition. An easy example is Yugoslav AF during Balkan war. All their MiG-29 are not combat capable, without a functioning radar or IRST. They can only use their GSh-30-1 cannon, and the Yugoslav AF still sending them to fight against fully capable NATO a/c. That's why the loss are very high.

alien7749

Originally posted by areguard at 12-8-2008 11:07 PM
MiG29N ni pd pandangan aku, TUDM akan deploy to the maximum service life and then retire them since by that time the su30 already enter into service, additional procurementpun mungkin su30s juga..

So, the F-5E will outlast the MiG-29N. Same with other airforce, still continue to use their MiG-21 and start retiring the MiG-29. Seems that the older aircraft are built to last. Think B-52.

Periuk_api1209

Originally posted by alien7749 at 12-8-2008 12:27 PM
I've a chat with my friend recently, which he is a sub-supplier to ATSC. He once had a talk with ATSC Engineer. According to him, actually, a very few of our MiG-29 are combat capable. While othe ...

huh..ada lagi org tanya soalan ni???

no need to answer la.....the singaporean still thinking our mig cannot fly already...biar la dorang fikir camtu..heheheheheheh only we know what happen to the mig....

Periuk_api1209

Originally posted by alien7749 at 13-8-2008 08:40 AM


With 'tiris' and 'bocor' sindrome in our G, this could happen. Maintenance with only one eye open.

tiris, bocor....now days suma ckp  pasal tiris bocor..very famous words after  'the' forum eh??

tin

if that is your definition of combat capable,

then last I heard, they are combat capable.

Most of these aircraft have just completed their scheduled 1,000 hours maintenance and overhaul.