jesus equal to god?

简单是美

sini tempat BM...

louiektc

mousa posted on 7-6-2012 10:55 PM
The Bible says a lot of things, and is full of contradiction.  Readers choose to believe in whicheve ...

Not everyone who see God shall die. The matter of fact is if God want to see someone, someone will be blessed. If one have no business with God, no matter how, the only way to see God is time after death!

Those never die after seeing God...
And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.
And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him....
And the Lord appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre.
And the LORD appeared unto him, and said, Go not down into Egypt; dwell in the land which I shall tell thee of.

And the LORD appeared unto him the same night, and said, I am the God of Abraham thy father: fear not.
And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
And God appeared unto Jacob again, when he came out of Padanaram, and blessed him.
And Jacob said unto Joseph, God Almighty appeared unto me at Luz in the land of Canaan.

The LORD God ... appeared unto me, saying, I have surely visited you.
That they may believe that the LORD God ... hath appeared unto thee.
And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob....

Then went up Moses and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel. And they saw the God of Israel ... They saw God, and did eat and drink.
And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend.
And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts.
For they have heard that thou Lord art among this people, that thou Lord art seen face to face.
The Lord talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire.
And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face.
And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God.

I saw the Lord sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.
I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.
To see thy power and they glory, so as I have seen thee in the sanctuary.
In the year that King Ussiah died, I saw, also, the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up.
For mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts.
And saw ... the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward....
And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.
The LORD stood upon a wall made by a plumbline, with a plumbline in his hand.
I saw the Lord standing upon the altar: and he said, smite the lintel of the door, that the posts may shake.
God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran .... He had horns coming out of his hand.


And God told Moses, “LOOK AT ME!..

Thony0912

Fellow brothers and sisters , JESUS is EQUAL to GOD . Let look based on GENESIS 1:26 Then God said ," Let US make man in our image ..." Get it ? Why US (Plural ) is used ? This have shown that it is not only one God that create the world . I believe TRINITY with are the father , the son and the holy spirit . It is hard to explain the trinity , but my sunday school teacher gave me an example , water can exist as solid ( Ice ) , Liquid or gas .... And why he wanted to come to the earth , because he want to sacrifice for us and he can feel how is  the man feel.. ..
Now, it is important to note the distinction between Greek words for ‘greater, ‘meizon,’ and ‘better,’ kreitton.’ Jesus specifically said, “The Father is greater than I,” not, “The Father is better than I.” The word ‘greater’ is used to point to the Father’s greater position, in heaven, not a greater nature. Had the word ‘better’ been used, however, this would indicate that the Father has a better nature than Jesus. This distinction is made clear in Hebrews 1:4, where ‘better’ is used in regard to Jesus’ superiority over the angels. The word ‘better’ in this verse indicates that Jesus is not just higher than the angels positionally; rather, He is higher than the angels in His very nature. Jesus is different, better, in kind and in nature from the angels.
       
This distinction between ‘greater’ and ‘better’ can be illustrated in the president of the United States. The president is in high position than the rest of us. Therefore, the president is greater, ‘meizon,’ than the rest of us. However, he is still just a human being, and thus he is not better, ‘kreitton,’ than the rest of us. Notice that Jesus never used the word ‘better’ regarding His relationship with the Father. Rather, Jesus used a word, ‘greater,’ that points to the Father being higher in position only. During the time of the incarnation, Jesus functioned in the world of humanity, and this necessitated Jesus being lower than the Father positionally.
       
Is the president of the United States intrinsically better than us by nature, or is it more correct to say that his position is greater than ours? In view of the distinction between Greek words for ‘greater,’ meaning higher in position, and ‘better,’ meaning higher in nature’ is it not clear that in John 14:28 Jesus is speaking of the Father’s higher position and not nature?

Thony0912

mrsLucky posted on 4-8-2012 04:44 PM
Boleh tak sesiapa huraikan dalam bahasa Malaysia. Tak berapa paham..
Ni yang ramai orang confused..

Maaf saya , bahasa saya kurang baik
Soalan dia berbunyi adakah Yesus Tuhan ?  Hal ini demikian , jika Yesus adalah tuhan , kenapa ada perbezaan dari segi kuasa mereka ?

mrsLucky

Thony0912 posted on 5-11-2012 06:10 PM
Maaf saya , bahasa saya kurang baik
Soalan dia berbunyi adakah Yesus Tuhan ?  Hal ini demikian , ...

oooo ok... its to deep for me to answer..
but my heart says Jesus is God...

louiektc

mrsLucky posted on 5-11-2012 07:43 PM
oooo ok... its to deep for me to answer..
but my heart says Jesus is God...

That's why you are with God..

for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.