Belanjawan 2014 : GST 4% akan dikuatkuasa 14 bulan selepas dibentangkan

namirulmukminin

AdamBillionaire posted on 28-8-2013 05:37 PM
projek lembu ni xde defisit ke??

Kalu dah bagi kat penyamun buat bisnes ko paham2 je la adam...

namirulmukminin

Apasal GST ni tak masuk Menifesto PRU depa ari tu?? Yang masuk semua yang janji2 manis je... Phuiiii!!

benzo33

Sasaran kerajaan sekarang--> laksanakan GST dan dalam masa yg sama mengurangkan subsidi.

Dan ketika ini juga, tarif elektrik bakal naik, harga kereta masih mahal walaupun janji nak turunkan, harga rumah tak terkawal, barang keperluan harian dan makanan juga tak dapat dikawal. langganan internet pun mahal.

p/s: aku hanya mampu komplen saja.

lompatikam

ninja9 posted on 28-8-2013 08:35 PM
walaupun dikatakan fungsinya nak selaraskan cukai dan mengekang ketirisan cukai, tetapi sistem g ...

yup...kita mmg akan nampak dari sudut logik kat situ...aku mula2 pun sama mcm ko, percaya benda nih akn menyusahkan end user mcm kita.
soalan ini penah ditanya dlm forum penerangan GST oleh pihak berwajib.

harga akan turun dalam tempoh selepas 2-3 tahun gst di implement...so dlm tempoh nak sampai matang tuh, pengguna mmg sakit lah.

kajian kes dia begini: dlm rantaian perniagaan, ada byk stage sesuatu product itu perlu lalui sebelum sampai ke end user, dan setiap stage ini pasti ada mark up harga...bila sampai kat pengguna...harga akhir itu dah tinggi.

pengilang ---> pemborong--->pengedar---->penjual----> pengguna.

masalhnya some stage ada pihak yg tak bertanggungjawap mark up sesuka hati then time nak bayar tax depa twist their account utk bayar kurang...so after this, tax dikenakan based on berapa unit jual, dan dia tak boleh nak up harga sesuka hati kerana tax tuh link dgn keuntungan depa...so kerajaan dapat control 2 benda...gst tax dan company profit tax...dlm pasaran terbuka...harga pada pengguna memainkan peranan penting...pengilang tak boleh naikkan harga sesuka hati sebab ada competition antara pengeluar lain. jadi pengilang mungkin perlu terpaksa control harga product dia dipasaran. pemborong sampai penjual terpaksa ikut harga ditetapkan pengilang

namun kat malaysia nih byk kes monopoli terpimpin dan product controlling by 'special middle man' berlaku....so mcm aku ckp lah...selagi politician ada involve...sistem gst nih akan bercelaru.

mcm AES lah...objective dah betul - nak mendidik, tapi bila letak kat kat kawasan 3 lorong tapi 90km/j jalan straight,  viewability sampai 2km cuma kecuraman dlm 25%...nampak  menyimpang...bila ditanya...tukang jawap/pertahan adalah politician...kahkahkah....

MelahJanda

aku setuju je ngan gst
tapi pelaksanaan la
dah ada anti profiteering act 2011--cuma tulah..implementation always fail in malaysia

MelahJanda

GhostWalking posted on 28-8-2013 11:20 PM
Aah eh yang gov tax tu 6% kalau campur GST 4% so semua 10% la kan??pengsannnnn.kekekekekke.Tapi kan  ...

service tax 6% akan digantikan dengan GST 4% (assumed)
macam kereta local: GST 4%, + excise duty

gogo2

Government says sales tax would take 14 months to implement




August 29, 2013
Latest Update: August 29, 2013 02:57 pm       

The goods and service tax (GST) will take 14 months to implement if announced in the budget in October, a Finance Ministry official said today, as the government moves to curb its stubborn fiscal deficit and high debt burden.

The GST will help broaden the tax base and tackle a fiscal deficit that has widened to RM14.9 billion, as well as a shrinking current account surplus which fell sharply to RM2.6 billion in the second quarter.

"If announced now it will come online in 2015," said the finance ministry's secretary general Mohd Irwan Serigar Abdullah.




Mohd Irwan also said that Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak will announce a decision on subsidy rationalisation soon.

"We are confident of achieving our fiscal target of 4% of GDP this year," he said. He added that he sees it reaching 3% in 2015 and potentially reaching a surplus budget by 2020.

The government is also considering whether to review and space out budget-straining public sector projects to address its evaporating current account balance.

No projects were identified yet but Mohd Irwan stressed that the publicly funded RM50 billion Mass Rapid Transit (MRT) rail system project will not be affected.

"The possible rescheduling refers to projects with heavy public sector involvement, not private sector projects," Mohd Irwan said.

Minister Idris Jala, who is spearheading the RM444 billion Economic Transformation Programme (ETP), added that the government is "looking at sequencing projects with low multiplier effect and high import content".

A fiscal policy committee meeting to discuss these measures will be held on Monday and will be chaired by Najib. Its decisions will be reflected in the upcoming 2014 budget.

The country's annual growth rate picked up slightly to 4.3% in the second quarter. It was bolstered by strong government spending before national elections in May and resilient domestic demand helped by large infrastructure projects under Najib's ETP.

Mohd Irwan added that he has spoken with officials from rating agency Moody's, which said it will consider Malaysia ratings only after the new budget is revealed.

Another ratings agency Fitch cut its outlook on Malaysia's A-minus sovereign debt to negative from stable in July, citing a lack of reform to tackle rising debt.

The Ringgit has lost more than 7% so far this year against the dollar and stocks have slid nearly 7 from their peaks in mid-May amid a global emerging market sell-off, sparked by the US central bank's plan to soon begin tapering back its stimulus and growing fiscal strains in some developing countries. - Reuters, August 29, 2013.

GhostWalking

MelahJanda posted on 29-8-2013 12:43 PM
service tax 6% akan digantikan dengan GST 4% (assumed)
macam kereta local: GST 4%, + excise duty  ...

Thank you Melah untuk informasi.Ko nak anak angkat tak?Amik aku ni ha xlarat nak bayar GST kekekekekeke

MelahJanda

gogo2 posted on 29-8-2013 03:02 PM
Government says sales tax would take 14 months to implement

oh meeting ni ke @lompatikam cakap tu?

aku diperingkat sini dah submit paper dah last week
tapi..setahu aku PM dah baca paper tu
mungkin nak review balik

MelahJanda

GhostWalking posted on 29-8-2013 08:18 PM
Thank you Melah untuk informasi.Ko nak anak angkat tak?Amik aku ni ha xlarat nak bayar GST kekekek ...

wakakakaka
takdela
gst won't burden u..kalau ikut model yg dipakai tu
yg burden ni sekarang sistem sedia ada

MelahJanda

gst bukan nak curb deficit..apedaaaa
nak reform inefficient tax system je
bebaru ni tetiba deficit teruk, so join sekali

gogo2

MelahJanda posted on 30-8-2013 08:43 AM
gst bukan nak curb deficit..apedaaaa
nak reform inefficient tax system je
bebaru ni tetiba deficit ...

jadi mmg betullah nak curb defisit.. walaupun GST sepatutnya utk reform tax, tapi oleh kerana krjn tak pandai urus ekonomi dan defisit ke langit, maka terpaksa menyalahgunakan GST utk dptkan wang rakyat.

Ada paham?

MelahJanda

gogo2 posted on 30-8-2013 11:51 AM
jadi mmg betullah nak curb defisit.. walaupun GST sepatutnya utk reform tax, tapi oleh kerana krjn ...

kau tahu tak apek
sebenarnya ngan adanya gst 4% ni, kami pun tak pasti (dengan real) dapat ke tak tingkatkan hasil (tingkat hasil maksudnya sehingga dapat surplus bop)

because tujuannya hanyalah memperbetulkan sistem yg tak berapa efficient
dan
rakyat dapat tengok dalam setiap resit pembelian mereka, adanya nilai % GST (unlike sekarang..tax ditelan dan dissolve dalam margin)

sebab apa tak pasti:
sebab
1) nilai % gst kelak hanya 4% = sekarang ni sales tax ranging dari 5% dan ke atas (10, 15), manakala service tax at 6% = sekarang nilai tax lebih tinggi..
2) kemampuan refund kepada pengilang, wholesaler, companies - cash in hand involved
3) trend pembelian rakyat sebaik terlaksananya gst - mungkin tak membeli, so kurang revenue
4) dalam model gst, banyak product/services zero-rated. tidak bercukai
5) mungkin tourist dapat refund kat airport/port lain - kurang cukai kat situ

so laaaaasssttt sekali, indirectly, mungkin, boleh curb deficit. but not directly.
deficit pun depends pada bende2 lain macam import eksport customer price index inflation whatnot

baghal_bortuqal

ninja9 posted on 28-8-2013 08:35 PM
walaupun dikatakan fungsinya nak selaraskan cukai dan mengekang ketirisan cukai, tetapi sistem g ...

gst adalah sistem percukaian lebih adil sbb mengenakan tax kpd bangsat2 individu lari cukai.

di malaysia 12.5 juta pencarum aktif epf, tapi 2 juta bayar income tax, dan hanya 40,000 bayar top bracket.

apa ke sial.

40,000 individu je bayar top tax brackeT?

tempat ulu mcm jinjang selatan alone ada more than 40,000  mesidis lah



btw, yg buat palat with the politicians is intro of GST will mean more bumiputera yg sebelum ni tak byr income tax langsung tetibe kene byr tax melalui dragnet gst.

itu yg politaik humno dok asek ratib "kita akan/sedang/dalam mengkaji pelaksanaan GST" sejak 10 tahun lepas.

tp yg bodohnya, kalu that is the case, then just ask everyone bukak fail income tax and rebate balik 3,000 setahun thru income tax credit ke apa.
apa susah.

lompatikam

MelahJanda posted on 30-8-2013 08:41 AM
oh meeting ni ke @lompatikam cakap tu?

aku diperingkat sini dah submit paper dah last week

jadi cik melah nih org jabatan la yek....

minta nanti nak terang GST nih pada kami rakyat jgn la sebar ikut media massa sgt...lagi byk keliru...lebih baik buat live punya penerangan oleh pihak berwajib.

MelahJanda

lompatikam posted on 30-8-2013 02:41 PM
jadi cik melah nih org jabatan la yek....

minta nanti nak terang GST nih pada kami rakyat ...

yg terang kat rakyat bukanla iols
kastam ler
tapi masih ternanti-nanti bila laaah gamaknya nak terangkan secara terang bundurang
skang ni briefing underground sajork

MelahJanda

baghal_bortuqal posted on 30-8-2013 12:40 PM
gst adalah sistem percukaian lebih adil sbb mengenakan tax kpd bangsat2 individu lari cukai.

di ...

akak baghal
bukan sebodoh itu leww masalah dia

brownstone

Bukti keprihatinan kerajaan, negara lain GST mencecah 11% - ketua cawangan Kg Bugis

chaintea

kalu pasal bajet..psl tax..
iols tggu eksplenesen dr kaka @MelahJanda

MelahJanda

chaintea posted on 30-8-2013 04:29 PM
kalu pasal bajet..psl tax..
iols tggu eksplenesen dr kaka @MelahJanda

akak tembak-tembak je
bukan betul sangat uols