SCHIZOPHRENIA

allymariano

Hi Docs & Forumer,

Kat sini, siapa tau pasal schizoprenia.
Ada tak ader persatuan utk org2 schizoprenia nih?
Really need help. Nak tau camner nak treat penyakit nih.

Shanty

This website http://www.janssen.com/ might help you.

zerozone

schizoprenia ni takde persatuan..semua buat hal sendiri...cakap pun dengan dinding bukan ngan kita. Treatment boleh dengan makan ubat, injection atau ECT (kalau tak silap). Pesakit macam ni jangan bawa jumpa bomoh...lebih baik terus bawa hospital untuk rawatan pakar psychiatric. Jarang jumpa dia orang boleh terus sembuh...selalunya akan relapse atau berulang.

allymariano

Thanks guys...
keep on posting if you have more info OK.

sol_badguy

Why dont you tried energy physchology?

Attractor Field Technique (AFT) - http://www.the-tree-of-life.com/
You can download the AFT treatments procedures for free, there are many ailments formulas that is contained there. Also, included the likes of schizophrenia, physcosis, mania there. I have tried the common cold procedures treatment and it  does work. Give it a try. It is mostly a DIY treatment.

Emotional Freedom Technique - http://www.emofree.com/
You can search for schizophrenia there. You can try it for free, there is a downloadable manual there to start with EFT. But for the case of schizophrenia, probably its best to find a good practitioner. In Malaysia, there are 2 practitioners in Petaling Jaya. You can learn how to get around dificult problems such as Schizophrenia by learning via the vids or you can suscribe to the newsletter. Also have a high success rate, if you can truly harness the power of EFT. One woman that has schizophrenia for more than 10 years, do EFT treatment for a whole year and is currently now off-medication

Be Set Free Fast - http://www.besetfreefast.com/ and ZPoint Proccess - http://www.zpointprocess.com/
Be Set Free Fast and its derivative, ZPoint Proccess are used mainly to clear emotional debris that sometimes we doesnt know in our conciousness. I personally used both, and I like Zpoint Proccess more because of its simplicity. I dont know if BSFF or Zpoint Proccess can be used for Schizophrenia, but since I think Schizophrenia is the sum (of mainly) lowest negative emotions, I think it is possible to use BSFF or ZPoint Proccess to overcome Schizophrenia.

And of course last is the Healing Codes - http://www.thehealingcodes.com/
I personally didnt do this procedures much, been busy testing stuuffs on ZPoint Proccess. EFT, and AFT. And it is probably there are not enough "fanbase" for The Healing Codes, and also due to the fact that the Yahoo Groups moderater kicked me from becoming a member.  ahahaha. The tension still flows in my body. You can try if you want it

My preference is ZPoint Proccess > AFT > EFT > BSFF > The Healing Codes

The BSFF, The Healing Codes Manual are not available for free. You must buy them online, or you have to find a way around to "secure" them.

And I really recommend the person you know to be schizophrenic to read the book "Ask And It Will Be Given" from Abraham Hicks http://www.abraham-hicks.com/ . It is about Law of Attractions. Again, not for free.

Good luck. It is hard to be a schizophrenic.

By the way, if you look at the AFT formulas sheet, Schizophrenia are related with a lot.. a lot of feeling of Shame. If the Schizophrenic guy a Muslim, I would suggest he do Solat Hajat on overcoming shame :D

leena

Originally posted by zerozone at 26-12-2006 09:51 AM
schizoprenia ni takde persatuan..semua buat hal sendiri...cakap pun dengan dinding bukan ngan kita. Treatment boleh dengan makan ubat, injection atau ECT (kalau tak silap). Pesakit macam ni jangan  ...

u mean pesakit ini bila sakit dia dtg, kira x waras...bila sakit dia ok, perlakuan dia mcm org normal ke?
boleh jelaskan sikit....

Arissa_Sofea

schizophrenia still luas dari segi medic.....ia boleh di kategori kan bawah 'psychosis'

schizophrenia berlaku dalam range dari yang biasa ke yang teruk....ader banyak type yang spesifik seperti catatonic, disorganized, undifferentiated, residual dan paranoid...setiap type tersebut ader yang simptom sama dan ader yang simptom berbeza.....

tapi setiap type tersebut generally boleh datang dengan simptom2 berikut:
1. hallucinations: visual (nampak mender yang org lain tak nampak), auditory (dengar mender yang org lain tak dengar), tactile (deria sentuhan terhadap objek yang tader dalam realiti)
2. delusions: percaya terhadap sesuatu yang bukan realiti...cth: grandiose delusion (percaya bahawa diri nyer nabi/raja dsb.)
3. disordered thinking: fikiran yang tak stay pada sesuatu topik (cth yang aku pernah jumpa...dier bercakap pasal bruce lee, tetiba pegi pasal bola, tetiba pindah pulak ke mesin rumput LOL)
4. catatonia: perbuatan/perlakuan yang pelik...
5. flat affect: tader emosi...atau emosi yang kurang terhadap sesuatu situasi
6. thoughts impairment: something wrong dengan pemikiran dier...ader beberapa jenis....thought insertion (perasaan seperti ader orang masukkan fikiran ke dalam otaknyer spt menghasut)...thought broadcast (perasaan seperti fikiran dier dibaca oleh orang lain)...thought withdrawal (perasaan seperti fikirannyer diambil oleh orang lain).....semua ni di gelar Schneider's first rank symptoms

so, berdasarkan severity (tahap keterukan) schizophrenia....ader pesakit yang seperti orang normal.....dan ader pulak yang teruk seperti movie 'Beautiful Mind' lakonan Russell Crowe

untuk tahu lebih lanjut jenis2 schizophrenia bolehla google....

[ Last edited by  Arissa_Sofea at 27-12-2006 11:12 PM ]

leena

ic...baru paham

penyakit ni ada kaitan ngan genetik ker?

btw cerita Beautiful MInd tu best

Arissa_Sofea

yess....faktor genetik sgt kuat dlm penyakit mental terutama schizophrenia...so, kalau first degree* relatives ader schizo.....kebarangkalian seseorang dapat schizo adalah tinggi

waktu dapat simptom pertama penyakit ini tak sama ikut individu...kalau ayah/emak/adik/abang kiter dapat masa umur 20 tahun...tak semestinyer kita dapat masa 20 tahun...dan sebaliknyer....



*(saudara 1st degree=ayah, emak, adik beradik, 2nd degree=datuk-nenek, pakcik-makcik, sepupu, 3rd degree=yang jauh2)

sol_badguy

dengarnya ada subtype baru dlm schizophrenia -deficit symptom-

Deficit Syndrome

Currently, there is debate in the field about a new subtype known as the deficit syndrome. It is not currently included in the DSM-IV-TR, however it has been receiving a great deal of attention in the last 20 years. This subtype is more expansive than the other subtypes as a person can be diagnosed with both paranoid schizophrenia and the deficit syndrome. It is characterized by primary negative symptoms (which means that they cannot be caused by such things as the side-effects of medication or depression). People with the deficit syndrome tend to have extremely flat affect (do not appear to be very emotional), do not have good eye contact, do not enjoy normally pleasurable activities (see dysphoria), and seem to be uninterested in social interaction. (There is, however, conflict in the research on this last point. While people who have been diagnosed with the deficit syndrome report being uninterested in social interaction, in the laboratory, they often report normal reactions to the situations.) Patients who have been diagnosed with the deficit syndrome tend to have a worse prognosis as these symptoms tend to be resistant to medication. This fact has brought much needed attention to negative symptoms (which have traditionally not been viewed as important as the positive symptoms).

..semestinya daripada Wikipedia.

blackmore

Originally posted by leena at 27-12-2006 10:36 PM



u mean pesakit ini bila sakit dia dtg, kira x waras...bila sakit dia ok, perlakuan dia mcm org normal ke?
boleh jelaskan sikit....

...eeerr....not really...orang2 yang ada schiz nie do not always behave abnormally...and they may appear perfectly responsible and in control even when they are experiencing hallucinations or delusions...

sol_badguy

blackmore, you sounds like a schizophrenic yourself :D. Godspeed man!

blackmore

Originally posted by sol_badguy at 28-12-2006 01:23 AM
blackmore, you sounds like a schizophrenic yourself :D. Godspeed man!

...ekekekeke...it takes one to noe one...hehehehe

sol_badguy

satu nak tanya. especially yang deficit symptom.. macam mana schizophrenic can reach out to the world and macamaner people can reach out schizophrenic?

pepalih2

Kepada semua, Jangan menghina mereka!! Mereka juga manusia cuma nasib ditakdirkan jadi begitu!! Mereka mungkin tak meminta jadi begitu! Tak Gitu?

Arissa_Sofea

tader org yg hina mereka....discuss je

another subtype adalah schizoid personality
ini lagi common
not to the extent dapat schizophrenia tapi personality
yang suka menyendiri dan tak ramai kawan

dhiairfan

dah dapat pengesahan doktor ke belum? kalau dah, biasaynya doktor psikiatri ni akan bagi ubat yang sesuai dengan penyakit yang mereka alami. kalau duduk sekitar 20km daripada HKL mereka ada pasukan rawatan yang pergi ke rumah-rumah di bawah Rawatan Kesihatan Mental Kominiti. Saya pernah ikut diaorang ni buat rawatan ke rumah-rumah.

allymariano

Dah, but previously we all bawa jumpa private hospital nyer pakar Psychiatric. But the medicine too expensive laa..
Ingat nak start go to Government Hospital. But, tak tau procedure dia.

Dia tak laa cronic sangat. He still can kuar in public, but sometimes jer he dengar suara2 tuh. He feels that someone giving him some message pulak. Friends wise, mmg kurang kawan laa.. sebab dia kekadang ader tanggapan yg his friends pun ader cakap belakang yg macam nak dajal kan dia.

Kalau tak makan ubat hari tu... Dia cam takut sket nak keluar rumah laa.

ctsueraya

setuju dngn pendapat awk
mereka juga manusia kan
aku ader kwn yg adik die ader penyakit nie
parent die terpaksa ader doktor kha sutk adik die nie
mereka perlu dpt perhatian dan kawalan rapi
takut bahaya pada org lain
kengkadang mereka nie kreatif gak sebenarnyer