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Russia to deliver 24 Pantsir-S1 SAM systems in 2008

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Post time 24-3-2008 03:17 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
21/ 03/ 2008


TULA, March 21 (RIA Novosti) - Russia will deliver 24 Pantsir S1 (NATO reporting name SA-22 Greyhound) anti-aircraft surface-to-air missile systems in 2008, a first deputy prime minister said on Friday. Sergei Ivanov said the missile manufacturer, the Tula-based Instrument Making Design Bureau (KPB), has so far signed contracts for a total of 64 systems.

He added that the system has been tested both in Russia and abroad on a variety of targets, proving its high effectiveness.
Ivanov did not say how many SAMs will be exported.

However, KPB CEO Alexander Rybas said a delegation from Syria will arrive in Tula April 15 on a pre-delivery inspection visit.
Pantsir-S1 is a short to medium range combined surface-to-air missile and anti-aircraft artillery weapon system mounted either on a variety of mobile or stationary platforms

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080321/101955300.html












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Range - With Target Reflection Surface of 2-3cm瞇/b]Detection - at least 30km
Tracking - at least 24km


Gun

Gun Calibre30mm
Total Rate of Fire700 rounds/min
Muzzle Velocity960m/s
Projectile Weight0.97kg
Ammunition Load750 rounds
Gun Range0.2m - 4,000m
Gun Altitude0m - 3,000m
Number of Simultaneously Engaged Targets2
Number of Targets Handled a Minute10-12
Reaction Time5-6 seconds


Missile

Range1,000m - 12,000m
Altitude5,000m - 8,000m
Guidance SystemRadio commands with IR or radio direction finding
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Post time 24-3-2008 03:38 PM | Show all posts
mada in russia ni memang power dari us..
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Post time 24-3-2008 06:31 PM | Show all posts

Reply #1 belacan79's post

Sistem yg ganaz, bole mlengkapkan kupayaan perlindungan Kor Armor Msia...
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Post time 24-3-2008 06:36 PM | Show all posts
Huiiiii combo 30mm gun dengan missile range sampai 12km. Seksi betul beast ni sejibik macam awek Ruskie yang bernama Tunguska!!!
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Post time 24-3-2008 06:53 PM | Show all posts
Artie guns AND missiles..one hell of firepower..
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Post time 24-3-2008 11:02 PM | Show all posts
isnt these obsolete against modern weapons such as JDAMs (Joint Direct Attack Munition) and other guided weapons including those launchable by UAVs?

[ Last edited by  edelweiss101 at 25-3-2008 12:04 AM ]
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Post time 24-3-2008 11:28 PM | Show all posts
RMAF can consider it if tis system really effective agaist enemy attack....
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Post time 25-3-2008 09:41 AM | Show all posts

Reply #7 gancity's post

let the syrian try it first.......
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Post time 25-3-2008 10:44 AM | Show all posts

Reply #8 tangopapa's post

Yeahhh, can test it to IDF jets... If effective, buy n if not say Sayonara to Penshar...
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Post time 25-3-2008 11:38 AM | Show all posts
Masalah sistem Russia ni firepower memng hebat tp radar senang kena jam...insident jet2 pejuang IDF masih dapat memasuki ruang angkasa Syria baru2 ni walaupun dilindungi oleh sistem pertahanan udara Russia yg canggih
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Post time 25-3-2008 12:22 PM | Show all posts

Reply #10 areguard's post

Musti Russia bg yd downgraded o Syria sengaja xaktifkan sistem radar...
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Post time 25-3-2008 12:44 PM | Show all posts
ceh kutuk bukan main masing....
soalan cepumas....kalau KJ secara murah hati nak sponsor benda ni kat GAPU 100 unit siap dgn training package dan after sales service.....korang nak x ?????
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Post time 25-3-2008 01:20 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by far-eiq at 25-3-2008 12:44
ceh kutuk bukan main masing....
soalan cepumas....kalau KJ secara murah hati nak sponsor benda ni kat GAPU 100 unit siap dgn training package dan after sales service.....korang nak x ?????


Tak sanggup aku kalau maruah negara pun nak kena jual sama:@
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Post time 25-3-2008 01:37 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by far-eiq at 25-3-2008 12:44 PM
ceh kutuk bukan main masing....
soalan cepumas....kalau KJ secara murah hati nak sponsor benda ni kat GAPU 100 unit siap dgn training package dan after sales service.....korang nak x ?????


Aku sokong aje...tapi banyaknya duit KJ nal sponsor 100 unit Pantsir...cukup ke duit ehsan tu??
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Post time 25-3-2008 02:57 PM | Show all posts

Reply #14 areguard's post

Rasa nyer duit rakyat gak dier dok korek2...
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Post time 25-3-2008 02:59 PM | Show all posts
Woow!! alangkah bestnya kor artileri kiter dilengkapkan dengan benda alah nie. ader harapan tak eik ...???
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Post time 25-3-2008 03:28 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by yaminz at 25-3-2008 02:57 PM
Rasa nyer duit rakyat gak dier dok korek2...


ish xde lah...mesti minta duit dari babah dia.....

sistem yg sama macam tunguska diatas platform yg berlainan..?? betul ke?
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Post time 25-3-2008 05:42 PM | Show all posts
Operator SA-22.From WIkipedia

    *  United Arab Emirates - 50 on order[1]; Launch customer of Pantsir-S1. Ordered in May 2000, half of them tracked, the other half wheeled. Due to deliver in three batches by the end of 2005 - 12 in 2003, 24 in 2004 and 14 in 2005. Prices given where US$ 734 million ( including a US$ 100 million pay in advance to complete R&D )[2], with the price per single unit being about US$ 15 million.

Delivery postponed after new design decisions were taken and UAE is said to have paid additional US$ 66 Mio. to cover major improvements. All 50 systems will now be wheeled on MAN SX 45 8x8 trucks from Germany, as well as the support vehicles.

Delivery of prototype accomplished in 2007. With that the MAN SX45 is the only "western" vehicle that can accommodate the S1 system and has a worldwide logistics and support network through their importer network. Delivery of the 50 systems ordered in 2000 have started in 2007 with the first two serially produced systems. British Jane's Defence Weekly reported on October 30th[3]; delays in further deliveries. Based on test-firing data, some further optimisation of the systems is required. An deliverys will take place over the next three years under an amended schedule. As reported by Kommersant in June 2006 UAE is said to have interest in additional 28 systems[4] and has probably signed option for delivery in 2009-2010.

    * Flag of Algeria Algeria - probably 38 on order[5]; signed March 2006 as part of an arms package worth about US$ 8 billion[6]. Whereas Moscow Times reported in February 2006 Algeria ordered Tunguska, RIA Novosti reported in March 2007 Algeria contracted Pantsir-S1 instead.
    * Flag of Syria Syria - 36 to 50 on order[7]; signed 2006 as part of arms package worth about US$ 1 billion[8]; deliveries began in August of 2007; British Jane's Defence Weekly reported in May 2007 that 50 systems are on order by Damascus and that at least ten of those Pantsirs would be handed over to Iran by the end of 2008. According to Jane's Defence Weekly, Iran is reported to be the main sponsor of the deal and is paying Syria for its services as intermediary. Deliveries to Iran are categorically denied by a range of top Russian officials including First Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov[9].

There are speculations that Ivan Safronov, Russian journalist and columnist who covered military affairs for the daily newspaper Kommersant may have been killed for his critical reporting in Russia's weapons selling activities to Syria and Iran.

    *
          o Syria got delivery of the first dozen or so out of an order of up to 50 systems in Mid August 2007[10][11].

On 6 September 2007 an air raid - named "Operation Orchard" - was launched to northern Syria by the Israeli Air Force. According to news reports as many as eight aircraft from the 69th Squadron had taken part. A DEBKAfile article from 7 September 2007[12] suggesting that the Israeli aircraft were able to avoid or electronically jam Syria's newly installed Pantsir-S1 air defence system[13]. DEBKAfile concludes that Their success demonstrated to Damascus and Tehran that their expensive new Russian anti-air system leaves them vulnerable. But given the usual timeframe of at least several months to even reach an initial operational level with any complex weapon system it is most improbable that Pantsir-S1 systems were in combat. On December 2nd 2007, the head of the Pantsir-S1 development programme had confirmed during an interview with Russia Today TV channel that the system had not yet been made operational by Syria during the time of the air raid.[14]


    * Flag of India India - Several Internet-Sources reporting that India has procured the system[15], but this seems not to be true as there is no source for this information mentioned as also no prices, numbers, order and delivery dates and so on.
    * Flag of Iran Iran - at least 10[16]; to be handover from Syria as reported by British Jane's Defence Weekly in May 2007[17]. This deal is denied by a range of top Russian officials.
    * Unidentified(?) - RIA Novosti quoted Kommersant in March 2007 that KBP has obligations to deliver to an unidentified country[18]. The official order backlog of KBP of US$ 2,6 bn for Pantsir-S1 systems per July 2007 compared to the system prices given by the launch order suggests that there are probably unidentified customers for about 50 or so Pantsir-S1 systems.

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Customer base is not bad. Even UAE which is used to Western weapons use SA-22.
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Operator SA-22.From WIkipedia

    *  United Arab Emirates - 50 on order[1]; Launch customer of Pantsir-S1. Ordered in May 2000, half of them tracked, the other half wheeled. Due to deliver in three batches by the end of 2005 - 12 in 2003, 24 in 2004 and 14 in 2005. Prices given where US$ 734 million ( including a US$ 100 million pay in advance to complete R&D )[2], with the price per single unit being about US$ 15 million.

Delivery postponed after new design decisions were taken and UAE is said to have paid additional US$ 66 Mio. to cover major improvements. All 50 systems will now be wheeled on MAN SX 45 8x8 trucks from Germany, as well as the support vehicles.

Delivery of prototype accomplished in 2007. With that the MAN SX45 is the only "western" vehicle that can accommodate the S1 system and has a worldwide logistics and support network through their importer network. Delivery of the 50 systems ordered in 2000 have started in 2007 with the first two serially produced systems. British Jane's Defence Weekly reported on October 30th[3]; delays in further deliveries. Based on test-firing data, some further optimisation of the systems is required. An deliverys will take place over the next three years under an amended schedule. As reported by Kommersant in June 2006 UAE is said to have interest in additional 28 systems[4] and has probably signed option for delivery in 2009-2010.

    * Flag of Algeria Algeria - probably 38 on order[5]; signed March 2006 as part of an arms package worth about US$ 8 billion[6]. Whereas Moscow Times reported in February 2006 Algeria ordered Tunguska, RIA Novosti reported in March 2007 Algeria contracted Pantsir-S1 instead.
    * Flag of Syria Syria - 36 to 50 on order[7]; signed 2006 as part of arms package worth about US$ 1 billion[8]; deliveries began in August of 2007; British Jane's Defence Weekly reported in May 2007 that 50 systems are on order by Damascus and that at least ten of those Pantsirs would be handed over to Iran by the end of 2008. According to Jane's Defence Weekly, Iran is reported to be the main sponsor of the deal and is paying Syria for its services as intermediary. Deliveries to Iran are categorically denied by a range of top Russian officials including First Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov[9].

There are speculations that Ivan Safronov, Russian journalist and columnist who covered military affairs for the daily newspaper Kommersant may have been killed for his critical reporting in Russia's weapons selling activities to Syria and Iran.

    *
          o Syria got delivery of the first dozen or so out of an order of up to 50 systems in Mid August 2007[10][11].

On 6 September 2007 an air raid - named "Operation Orchard" - was launched to northern Syria by the Israeli Air Force. According to news reports as many as eight aircraft from the 69th Squadron had taken part. A DEBKAfile article from 7 September 2007[12] suggesting that the Israeli aircraft were able to avoid or electronically jam Syria's newly installed Pantsir-S1 air defence system[13]. DEBKAfile concludes that Their success demonstrated to Damascus and Tehran that their expensive new Russian anti-air system leaves them vulnerable. But given the usual timeframe of at least several months to even reach an initial operational level with any complex weapon system it is most improbable that Pantsir-S1 systems were in combat. On December 2nd 2007, the head of the Pantsir-S1 development programme had confirmed during an interview with Russia Today TV channel that the system had not yet been made operational by Syria during the time of the air raid.[14]


    * Flag of India India - Several Internet-Sources reporting that India has procured the system[15], but this seems not to be true as there is no source for this information mentioned as also no prices, numbers, order and delivery dates and so on.
    * Flag of Iran Iran - at least 10[16]; to be handover from Syria as reported by British Jane's Defence Weekly in May 2007[17]. This deal is denied by a range of top Russian officials.
    * Unidentified(?) - RIA Novosti quoted Kommersant in March 2007 that KBP has obligations to deliver to an unidentified country[18]. The official order backlog of KBP of US$ 2,6 bn for Pantsir-S1 systems per July 2007 compared to the system prices given by the launch order suggests that there are probably unidentified customers for about 50 or so Pantsir-S1 systems.

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Customer base is not bad. Even UAE which is used to Western weapons use SA-22.
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Post time 25-3-2008 05:46 PM | Show all posts
Kalaula MAF beli, mesti letak atas kenderaan runut.
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