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English Diction Kelas in Singing English (Update 0706 9:26 pm)
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I've been told by many that English diction , or proper diction rupa2nya amat penting, dlm nyanyian.
And I will menggambarkan kita ni pro or penyanayi yg tulen and boleh stand out dikalangan org2 lain.
Meaning, when we sing in english, so be Omputih, bukan cakap Melayu.
As a below average in this department, (Yana betulllah ), lets start something to be perfect in English diction for Singing.
Hopefully Muntz dan Shuffeak selalulah menjengah rumah ni ye. Nak2 Muntz.
So Posting ke =2, refer to diction Library dan standard singing.
Posting ke =3, refer dlm lain2 genre, nak2 dlm R&B kot ada beza.
Nota: Hanya lagu2 English. Kalau Hindi , Korean, Spanish, dan lain2 kena bukak thread lain
[ Last edited by stonehead02 at 7-6-2008 09:26 PM ] |
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Standard Diction Library
1. want you = wanchu , what you = watchu don't you = donchu/donchae Normal mistake " want you", "what you"
2. gonna be alright = gonne be alrite ( go lembut and but ghor gor, but goen ) // Normal mistake "ghor" or "gor" "na be alright"
3. 'ing' = in e.g feeling = feelin, thinking = thinkin
4. gotta = gatte Normal mistake goottha (goat) (thar)
[ Last edited by stonehead02 at 12-6-2008 11:10 AM ] |
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posting for Special genre Diction e.fg R & B |
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Posting for FAQ or Pending Question
Pending Question:
Lagu No One - Alicia Keys
[ Last edited by stonehead02 at 7-6-2008 04:54 AM ] |
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Mcm lirik
No One - alicia Key .
Betul ke mcm ni ye? yg kat part Roman. Roman ni biasanya org refer kkpd sebutan.
Lyric.
I just want you close
Where you can stay forever
You can be sure
That it will only get better
Roman:
I jest wanchu close //previously I said "I just wan u close"
where u can stayee foreverrr //previously "where u can stay foreverrr" stayee thee ee shud appear to serlah it's existence
You can be shor
That it w'ell onli get better
You and me together
Through the days and nights
I dont worry cause
Everythings gonna be alright
People keep talking
They can say what they like
But all I know is everything's gonna be alright
Roman:
u and me togedherrrR
Through the deys and nightsss
I den werry k'es // previously I said " I Don worry k'es
Everythings g'oe'nne be alrite // previously I said " Everything's ghon(shud soften go) na be alrite
People keep talkin
They can say what they like
But all I know is everything's gonne be alright // Previously I said " ghonn abe alrite... I laugh at myself aftter I'm checking keh8x.
No one no one no one
Can get in the way of what I'm feeling
No one no one no one
Can get in the way of what I feel for you
You you
Can get in the way of what I feel for you
Roman:
Noe wenn Noe wenn No wenn ( as ir warn but influence by E = wern" no wen no wenn)
Can getin the way of whet I'm feelin
No wenn No wenn No wenn
Can getin the way of what I feel four(as if fur but with 0) u // mine "for = for"
When the rain is pouring down
And my heart is hurting
You will always be around
This I know for certain
Roman:
When the rain is pouring down
And my heaRrt is hurRting //ok but I wonder whether heart become Arttt??
You will always be around // bolat kan ounddddd
This I know for(fur with O ) certain // Mine "for = four"
I know some people search the world
To find something like what we have
I know people will try
Try to divide
Something so real
So till the end of time
Im telling you that
Roman:
I know some people search the werrrrlddd
To find somet'h'in like whet we have // maybe kat part 'what, i said what. not whet(slang)
I know people will try
Try to devide / Previously "Divide"
Some'th'in so reellll // Salah lirik sebut For pulak keh8x and sebutan real jd ree , which L jadi tenggelam. need to jelass.
So ch(but T)iel 'th'e end of ti(chi but T)me // mine said "till" and "time"
Im ch(But t)ellin you that // mine "telling" |
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Diction and acsent (tak reti eja ) is totally different
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Reply #6 houdini's post
accent |
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Reply #7 jac_diehard_fan's post
TQ
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Reply #6 houdini's post
Alamak baru perasan.. grammar pun salah
patutnya "are"
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accent tu macam nyanyian nadia af6.. bunyi jawa sangat |
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Reply #9 houdini's post
mistake is an experience.. cewah |
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diction nak ok, kena tgk and dengar movie and lagu omputih selalu... |
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xbegitu paham.. hehe.. more explanation please |
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Reply #13 Urban_Iz's post
iz... ko bukan kena tgk jer... tp kena praktikkan gak.. walaupun diction aku hampeh gak, tp makin better sejak aku try2 ckp... pada aku, tak perlu want you ditukar jadi wanchu.. kalau every time ada perkataan want you korang tukar jd wanchu pun, lawak gak nnt jadinya....kalau ko fluent in english, otamatik, diction ko akan elok.. my 2 cents opinion yg tak terer sgt ni... |
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lagi satu... diction ni pada aku, sebutan perkataan tu betul... tak semestinya kalau ko buat slang ko, akan jd salah... alicia nyanyi tu lebih kepada slang org black kat brooklyn., so korang pd aku tak perlu ikut slang sana...
org latin, nyanyi lagu omputih, ikut slang diorang, satu dunia accept.. janji sebutan kena betul... tak perlulah together jadi togetherrr.... tu dah jadi slang org black. slang and diction lain pada aku. slang apa pun letak, janji sebtan kena betul. tp kalau nak nyanyi lagu rnb, slang melayu kak bedah pun, tak kena gak kan??? |
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bagus abg Kacey.. baru pingu paham.. |
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Diction tu sama.. tapi slang yang berbeza ikut genre lagu. Tapi yg pasti, cara korang sebut waktu speaking mmg takkan sama 100% dgn dalam nyanyian. Kalau korang banyak dengar lagu nyanyian aku, mmg ada sikit2 aku tergelincir bab2 diction nie.
Cara paling sesuai utk improve diction ialah banyak banyakkan nyanyi lagu English. Itu sajork. Practice makes perfect. Dari situ korang boleh dengar camner sebut different level/degree of letters.. contohnya sebut "darling"... huruf "i" tu yg harus watch out... sama ada nak pakai "darleeeng" atau "darleng" atau camner.... dengarkan sajork, barulah boleh dapat. |
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Reply #15 buiscasey's post
Fluent dlm English tak membantu diction sangat. Berapa ramai org Filipino yg fluent English tapi diction diorang berterabur. Sebut "simple" jadi "simpol"... "bubble" jadi "bubbol"... "camera" jadi "car-mera".. sama macam org Cina dan India.
Diction is about how you pronounce the sukukata2 dalam lagu tu dalam nyanyian. Contohnya macam Dayang Nurfaizah, dia tak fluent sangat speaking pun... malah aku tak pernah tengok dia speaking sangat. Tapi kalau dia nyanyi English, mmg bagus diction. Sbbnya, dia rajin praktis bawak lagu English... mgkin dari kecik kot. |
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Reply #19 Muntz's post
selain dayang sape |
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