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Post time 9-8-2008 12:58 AM | Show all posts |Read mode






Russia sent troops and dozens of tanks and armoured vehicles into the breakaway Georgian province of South Ossetia today, vowing to protect its citizens in a move described by Tbilisi's pro-Western Government as an act of war.

A South Ossetian rebel minister said that more than 1,000 people had been killed in overnight shelling of the city of Tskhinvali, the separatist capital which Georgia claimed today to have captured.

In probably the most serious regional crisis since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, at least 50 Russian tanks
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Post time 9-8-2008 02:34 AM | Show all posts
perang lagi..ape nk jd
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Post time 9-8-2008 03:10 AM | Show all posts
War....War.....when will it all ends........
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Post time 9-8-2008 07:13 AM | Show all posts
BOLEH LAH RUSSIA UJI SENJATA BARU.......AMERIKA TAK MAU MASUK CAMPUR KE ?
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Post time 9-8-2008 09:51 AM | Show all posts
amerika bukan x mau campur....dia tengok dulu laaa....kan yg serang tu RUSSIA,
x kan dia nak menerejah masuk jer

lain ler yg serang tu negara ciput..

> Amerika nak menilai n melihat kekuatan Russia skrg ne, sebelum dia meneruskan langkah seterusnya
   utk meletakkan sistem pertahanan udara kat negara pakatan Warsaw... wait n see

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Post time 9-8-2008 10:17 AM | Show all posts

Reply #1 matmin77's post

Wooo, perang lagik... Naik lagik minyak pasnei...
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Post time 9-8-2008 10:51 AM | Show all posts
Another brutal Chechnya in the making...naik lg la harga mnyak dunia...
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Post time 9-8-2008 11:13 AM | Show all posts

Balas #5 BlackScorpian\ catat

weh, amerika dah masuk campur awal2 lagi

A US official said that 100 American military trainers working in Georgia were all safe.
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Post time 9-8-2008 11:19 AM | Show all posts
time to test new weapons and strategies.
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Post time 9-8-2008 11:27 AM | Show all posts

Reply #9 Marsyal Yau's post

Yup, time to eat Russian Pie...
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Post time 9-8-2008 12:02 PM | Show all posts
takde apa2 angin tibe tros perang je ganas gile
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Post time 9-8-2008 02:49 PM | Show all posts

Reply #11 AntagonisYgKeut's post

jangan disangka air tenang tak dak boya, angin tak dak, ribut takdak, hujan tak leh turun....
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Post time 9-8-2008 09:15 PM | Show all posts
tengah follow ni kat google news.
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Post time 9-8-2008 09:21 PM | Show all posts
eh, ni 'proxy' war ke?  show of power ke?
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Georgian army may be tough nut for Russia to crack
09.08.08 17:53

The war in the Caucasian province Ossetia may seem like an uneven contest between giant Russia and tiny Georgia - but on the battlefront things are a bit different, reported dpa.

Georgia's President President Mikheil Saakashvili, coming to office in the 2003 pro-democracy Rose Revolution, has with some help from the United States built up the region's toughest little military. Russia can destroy it, but it will be neither quick nor easy, regional observers say.

US Special Forces troops, and later US Marines replacing them, have for the last half decade been systematically training selected Georgian units to NATO standards. Gone are the Soviet traditions of soldiers' never firing their weapons until the war breaks out, or tanks too valuable to drive out of the motor pool.

Using standard training plans familiar to the average US Army or Marine recruit, the US educators have focused on basics: teaching Georgian soldiers small unit tactics, marksmanship, and individual initiative.

The US trainers also took the Georgian officer corps to school, pushing lessons and buzz words learned by America in its recent wars.

Among these, are making the air force and army work together (inter-service cooperation), trying to surprise the opponent and possess lots of information about him (the information battle), getting beans and bullets to the troops (logistics), and enforcing the bog-standard rule that good officers lead from the front.

Saakashvili has backed up the American trainers full hilt: In high-unemployment Georgia, the best-paid job available to an active young Georgian man is within the ranks of the military.

Today, roughly one-quarter of Georgia's functional land forces are US-trained. The backbone of the Georgian army is seven infantry battalions raised from scratch and brought by the US Green Berets from boot camp to something quite close to NATO-standard combat readiness over the years, a mass of some 5,000 men.

Georgia since 2003 has been among the US' most enthusiastic supporters of international forces in Afghanistan, Kosovo, and Iraq. Currently Georgia, once a minor Soviet republic of some 4.5 million inhabitants, fields the third-largest foreign force in Iraq, after the US and Britain.

Georgia's government on Saturday called on those desert-hardened veterans, requesting the Pentagon release the elite 13th battalion to return home from the Middle East, to fight Russians in Ossetia.

Saakashvili's Defence Ministry according to officials in Tbilisi spends some 930 million dollars a year on its military, a drop in the bucket compared to Russia, but a massive spike from 30 million dollars spent in 1991 when Georgia became independent.

Perhaps tellingly, a lion's share of Georgia's defence budget has gone to field training and soldier personal kit.

First-line Georgian soldiers wear NATO uniforms, kevlar helmets and body armour matching US issue, and carry the US-manufactured M-16 automatic rifle - a dramatic about turn from the way most former Soviet republics outfit troops, with a mix of Soviet-era hand-me- downs and more recent Russian or Chinese gear.

Georgia has to be sure not thrown out every last Kalashnikov, and most of Georgia's reserves and second-line troops are less well kitted out, and trained marginally, similar to Russian reserves that might be sent to the region.

But Georgia at the same time has according to military observers spent its limited money on a few well-chosen big ticket items: modern Czech self-propelled howitzers and rocket launchers (of which some now are bombarding Tskhinvali), Turkish armored cars, and even a French missile boat.

The infantry force the Georgians have fielded in Ossetia, as a result, is by most accounts at least as competent as Russian army elements opposing it, and by some standards (combat experience and field training) possibly even superior, observers said.

In two days of intense combat the Georgian army fighting their Russian opponents suffered hundreds of casualties, and so far have retained discipline. Russian casualties are in the hundreds and Russian aircraft have been shot down - solid performance for a military that has existed for less than a generation.

Russia as a regional power enjoys, of course, overall superiority over the Georgians, in the short term with a much stronger air force, and in the longer term with the Kremlin's potential ability to mobilize hundreds of thousands of troops and conquer Georgia - provided the men in the Kremlin have the will to take the losses needed to eliminate their doughty opponents.

A second and probably more critical question is, therefore, whether it is Saakashvili or the Kremlin that is more willing to spend soldier lives in what by all accounts promises to be more bloody fighting.

http://news.trendaz.com/index.shtml?show=news&newsid=1266472&lang=EN
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Post time 10-8-2008 01:11 AM | Show all posts
So to cut the story short, Georgia attacked Russian peacekeepers g secure buffer zone between Ossetia dgn Georgia. Ossetia ni wilayah Georgia yg nak keluar dari Georgia dan mendapat sokongan RUssia. Now, Russian armour is rolling into Georgian teeritories..  So kalau ikut citera Combat, sapa yg baik dan sapa yg jahat??? Russia atau Georgia.
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Post time 10-8-2008 05:01 AM | Show all posts
yg jahat georgia, tali barut us. military armed by us. uassssssssss-A. aku benci orang amerika. tak sodar diri ingat dia baik. komen punya la handal konon dia pasukan pengaman.
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Post time 10-8-2008 07:30 AM | Show all posts

Reply #16 AntagonisYgKeut's post

lebihkurang cerita berkenaan negara kecik yg berhati besar yg suka provoke orang bila dah perasan terer pasai ada backup amerika la nih.....macam pernah ku dengar kisah ni....tapi di mana ya?
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Post time 10-8-2008 07:43 AM | Show all posts
World urges Russia to curb onslaught

PARIS : Western leaders called Saturday on Russia to curb its military onslaught against Georgia over a breakaway region and Poland demanded an emergency EU summit to discuss the Caucasus crisis.

"We have urged an immediate halt to the violence and a stand-down by all troops," US President George Bush said in Beijing. "We call for an end to the Russian bombings and a return by the parties to the status quo of August 6th."

Bush said the United States was working with European countries to launch a mediation effort to end the fighting in South Ossetia where Russian and Georgian troops are now fighting each other.

Bush has spoken to Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Georgian President Mikheil Saakahvili about the conflict, the White House said.

"Russia needs to support these efforts so that peace can be restored as quickly as possible," White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe said.

Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski said his country has asked for an emergency EU summit on the battle for South Ossetia.

He said he had asked the French EU presidency "to urgently convene a meeting of the European Council at the level of heads of government," the PAP news agency reported.

Sirkorski said he expected foreign ministers to meet within days and for a summit to be convened.

International concerns mounted as Russia bombed a key Georgian port and the Georgian city of Gori.

The European Union and NATO have called for a halt to hostilities and the UN Security Council was to meet again Saturday seeking agreement on a call for an immediate ceasefire after talks failed Friday.

EU foreign policy chief Solana was to speak with UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon and Ukrainian president Viktor Yushchenko as part of efforts to resolve the conflict, an official said.

Condemnation was particularly strong from among a group of former Soviet satellite states, most whom are now EU members and who number among pro-western Georgia's allies.

Following talks between the presidents of Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Sweden and Ukraine, Lithuanian Foreign Affairs Minister Petras Vaitiekunas is in Georgia on a fact-finding mission.

Vaitiekunas said in a statement that "Russian military forces have gone through all the red lines by crossing an internationally-recognised border into the sovereign territory of Georgia.

"This is a clear act with visible elements of aggression and an outrageous violation of international law with grave consequences to regional and Euro-Atlantic stability and security as well as to Euro-Atlantic relations with Russia," he added.

Iran, which is close to the conflict zone, voiced its concern over the "killing of defenceless people" and called for "an immediate halt to the clashes," foreign ministry spokesman Hassan Ghashghavi said.

"Iran is ready to offer any help ... under its principal policies of contributing to the establishment of peace and stability in the region.

"A worsening of the crisis could affect the whole region with its negative consequences," he added, urging the two sides to negotiate.

Pope Benedict XVI would express his concern over the conflict during his weekly address on Sunday, the Vatican said.

"We hope that wisdom, the desire for peace and negotiation can prevail over the use of force," said the head of the Vatican press office, Father Federico Lombardi.

- AFP /ls
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Post time 10-8-2008 09:14 AM | Show all posts
klu nato masuk campur , blh dikira perang dunia ni, aku tengook amerika pun tak berani nak buat apa apa, nampak sangat takut ngan rusia, klu ngan negara lain bukan main hebat lagi dia hantar kapal pengangkut dia.
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Post time 10-8-2008 09:56 AM | Show all posts

Reply #19 hyazinth79's post

wa rasa putin dah sound bush kat beijing ni..jgn masuk campur...kang tak pasal2 si bush tu kena judo kang ngan putin...hehehehe
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