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Turkey to buy S-300 systems for testing

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Post time 26-8-2008 11:13 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
Turkey to buy S-300 systems for testing

NATO member Turkey has quietly decided to buy variants of three different S-300 missile systems from Belarus and Ukraine to test them at the Konya training center with the Electronic Warfare Training Field (EHTS) system built by local firm Havelsan.

"These missile systems are intended to be used for testing and training purposes to simulate threats that may come from countries with ex-Soviet systems in their inventories," a local defense industry source told Today's Zaman. The decision to buy former Soviet-designated SA-12 (300V version) and SA-10 (S-300) missile systems, as well as SA-15 short and medium-range TOR systems, at a cost of around $100 million, was made during an executive committee meeting of the Undersecretariat for the Defense Industry (SSM) on July 22, but it was not made public. Sources close to the project said the systems will be tested mainly with F-16s using the EHTS system, which has been moved from Eski?hir to the central Anatolian town of Konya, some 250 kilometers from Ankara, where a regional combat readiness simulation center is located.

Tests with these missile systems will, amongst other things, help Turkey detect whether the Greek Cypriot administration, which has Russian S-300s in its inventory, has been using them.

"The missile systems were not purchased to be launched against perceived enemies and they will not be included in the inventory of the Turkish Armed Forces [TSK]. They will be tested at the Konya range with EHTS systems. Their ra** and fire control systems are to be bought separately,"
a well-informed local defense industry source said.

During the tests those systems will be jammed, enabling Turkey to develop counter systems, said the same source.

Turkey has been holding combined air training exercises, code-named Anatolia Eagle, with Turkish jets and jets from allied and partner countries such as Israel, Pakistan and Jordan at the Konya training center.

The center, opened in 2001, also hosts Air Combat Maneuvering Instrumentation (ACMI) systems, which feature software developed by the Israel-based firm MLM. ACMI systems are capable of transferring in-flight images from jets to command headquarters.

In a separate development, Turkey is planning to include about a dozen long-range air and missile defense systems, worth around $4 billion, in its inventory for the first time.

An international tender was opened last year in March by the SSM for the acquisition of the missiles in which four companies are competing.

Official Russian procurement agency Rosoboronexport, however, has also renewed an earlier offer for the direct sale of S-400 missiles to Turkey as an alternative to Russian participation in the tender.

SSM head Murad Bayar told the Anatolia news agency recently that initially two of the missile systems will be installed in Ankara and in 輘tanbul, the country's two biggest cities.

US-based firms Lockheed Martin and Raytheon have jointly offered a combination of Patriot Advanced Capability-3 (PAC 3) and PAC 2 low-to-high-altitude surface-to-air missiles (SAMs) based on foreign military sales credit in the SSM tender.

The Chinese HQ-9 (reported export designation FD-2000) air-defense system, as well as Israel Aerospace Industries' (IAI) Arrow missiles, developed jointly with Boeing, are also competing in the tender.

However, the main competition has been taking place between Russia and the US, as the latter has already raised concerns with Ankara that the purchase of Russian missiles will create an inter-operability problem with NATO.
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Post time 6-9-2008 10:44 AM | Show all posts
kalau tak silap aku turki tengah bukak tender untuk sistem pertahanan jarak jauh , nampak gayanya melepaslah s300 . tp yg dia beli jenis ex, yg tak diupgrede. nanti jd mcm sistem pechora, us ingat boleh tipu sistem ni, last . dorang yg kena tembak sebab sistem dah diupgrade.
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Post time 9-9-2008 02:42 AM | Show all posts

Reply #2 hyazinth79's post

malaysia bila lagi?pertahanan berlapes,beb..
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Post time 13-9-2008 10:11 AM | Show all posts

Reply #3 BeachBoys's post

dalam rmk 10 , insyaallah kita akan memiliki sistem pertahanan 3 lapis dr sam , kepada shorad dan vshorad.
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Post time 13-9-2008 12:19 PM | Show all posts

Reply #4 hyazinth79's post

ayat tu mcm selalu dgr aje....
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Post time 14-9-2008 09:56 PM | Show all posts
Memang dah ada keperluan di dalam unit GAPU kita cuma masalah budget le beb yg tak pernah cukup. So far kita dah ada Vshorad (gabungan manpads Igla & Djigit, Anza, Starbust & FN-6) & Shorad (Jernas). So, harap bersabar la. Sama-sama la kita tunggu LIMA2009 atau DSA2010. Kalau takde juga kita tunggu yg seterusnya. Itu pun kalau umur kita masih panjang la...

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Post time 16-9-2008 12:04 PM | Show all posts
Good, we can get S300 codes from our Turkish friend and crack the system.
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Post time 16-9-2008 01:03 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 16-9-2008 12:04 PM
Good, we can get S300 codes from our Turkish friend and crack the system.


what do u mean "WE"..Singapore??
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Post time 21-9-2008 10:12 AM | Show all posts

Balas #5 BlackScorpian\ catat

biasa la, klu kerajaan kita macm india belanja sampai 100 billion utk pertahanan, aku mesti cakap thn depan kita beli , tp aku tertarik ngan iaran yg tunjuk sistem thor waktu demo aritu, dpt pulak dia sistem ni, terkejut beruklah israel ngan as.
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Post time 21-9-2008 10:15 AM | Show all posts
nak crack sistem s300, amerika nak crack sistem pechora pu berpeluh peluh , ada hati nak crack sistem org, dia takut kita guna s300 kot.
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Post time 21-9-2008 05:32 PM | Show all posts

Reply #10 hyazinth79's post

Alaa Russian designers yg program coding S300/S400 tu pun bukannya bodoh, dia tahu pihak2 musuh mesti berusaha nak crack codes yg depa buat...semestinya dia dah siap dgn countermeasures punya..habis takkan S400 dan S300 yg mengawal Rusia pun depa boleh biar compromised..safety of the fatherland tu...
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Post time 22-9-2008 10:25 AM | Show all posts

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