DID GOD OR MAN GIVE PALESTINE TO THE ZIONISTS?

jfreemanns

A man gave Palestine to the Zionists...not GOD!

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DavidW

The Qur'an in Chapter 5: 20-21 states quite clearly: Moses said to his people: O my people! Remember the bounty of God upon you when He bestowed prophets upon you , and made you kings and gave you that which had not been given to anyone before you amongst the nations. O my people! Enter the Holy Land which God has written for you, and do not turn tail, otherwise you will be losers."

jfreemanns

The Qur'an in Chapter 5: 20-21 states quite clearly: Moses said to his people: O my people! Remember ...
DavidW Post at 15-2-2011 00:26

YES you are correct. Moses was the one who said it not to his own people but to the CHOSEN PEOPLE OF THE GOD OF THE HEBREWS.....but what you left out was that the God of the Hebrews pulled Moses out of the field trip deal at Mount Nebo overlooking the Jordan and the eventual sight of the land across the Jordan. Therefore there was no true land deal as Moses, the appointed tour guide was taken before the true showing. You want to fight this with facts dear Davidebbo??

Now having said that why would we now in this modern times need Lord Balfour to get the Balfour Declaration going if the land already belonged to the Jews before hand. Theodore Hertzl was even contemplating Buenos Aires as an alternative Israel much much earlier on. Care to explain your blind support for this Zionist pickle?

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DavidW

Really? Thats not what the Quran said jfreemann. The Quran says Allah gave Israel to Jews.

jfreemanns

Really? Thats not what the Quran said jfreemann. The Quran says Allah gave Israel to Jews.
DavidW Post at 15-2-2011 01:29

Now how stupid can you get dear Debmey?  Quran compliments the OT...don't you know? Quran was merely stating the facts of the matter in that Moses has a portion role to play in the Exodus dear Debmey!

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DavidW

Quran said Allah gave Israel to Jews. Why do you deny your Quran?

jfreemanns

Quran said Allah gave Israel to Jews. Why do you deny your Quran?
DavidW Post at 15-2-2011 02:23

NO NO NO QURAN SAYS MOSES WAS INSTRUCTED TO BRING TO BRING THE ISRAELITES TO THE PROMISED CARPARK BUT MOSES WAS EXTRACTED AT MOUNT NEBO AND THE ISRAELITES KNEW NOT THE TRUE PATH AFTER THAT.

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DavidW

There were no cars during Moses' time jfreemann.
Why are you distorting the Quran? May the wrath of Allah be upon you.

jfreemanns

There were no cars during Moses' time jfreemann.Why are you distorting the Quran? May the wrath of ...
DavidW Post at 16-2-2011 10:41

YES THAT IS THE DEFINITION. THE PROMISED LAND IS A VACATED CAR PARK WITHOUT MOSES TO LEAD THE CAR-LESS GRUMBLING AND UNGRATEFUL HEBREWS. YOU WANNA MAKE AN ISSUE OF THAT AUSSIE BOY? BECAUSE OF THAT ABANDONMENT IT TOOK A MAN NAMED ARTHUR JAMES BALFOUR TO MAKE IT HAPPEN...NOT GOD...MIND YOU..GOD LEFT THEM WHEN HE REMOVED MOSES FROM BIBLE HISTORY AT MOUNT NEBO OVERLOOKING THE JORDAN.


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DavidW

How can the promised land be a car park when cars didn't exist during Moses time?
Why are you distorting the Quran jfreemann? May the wrath of Allah be upon you.

jfreemanns

How can the promised land be a car park when cars didn't exist during Moses time? Why are you distorting the Quran jfreemann? May the wrath of Allah be upon you.

DavidW Post at 16-2-2011 22:58

The very site of the abandonment of the ungrateful Hebrews is today a carpark. Google it to know ...don't be lazy Debmey.



See even Pope John Paul is enjoying the carpark view from the top of Mount Nebo.....the very spot Moses stood upon before being extracted by the God of the Hebrews.


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DavidW

Well the Quran never mentioned any car park jfreemann. You distorted your own Quran and may the wrath of Allah be upon you and may he send you to hell for that for good measure jfreemann.

jfreemanns

Well the Quran never mentioned any car park jfreemann. You distorted your own Quran and may the wrath of Allah be upon you and may he send you to hell for that for good measure jfreemann.DavidW Post at 21-2-2011 23:40

There is a tourist carpark at the base of the view platform you see Pope John Paul on. Now how can I be "distorting" Quran when the tourism authorities of Mount Nebo were the one who approved the site for the carpark that 2000 years ago was the assembly area of the Exodus Jews?


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DavidW

But that carpark wasn't in the Quran. You distorted your own Quran and may the wrath of Allah be upon you and may he send you to hell for that for good measure jfreemann.

jfreemanns

But that carpark wasn't in the Quran. You distorted your own Quran and may the wrath of Allah be upo ...
DavidW Post at 22-2-2011 20:31

NOW WHY IS SOMEONE GETTING ALL PARANOID ABOUT A TOURIST CARPARK THAT ACTUALLY EXISTS TODAY IN FRONT OF THE MOUNT NEBO TOURIST COMPLEX? BEATS ME!

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DavidW

Why did a Muslims insert the word carpark into his Quran?

jfreemanns

Why did a Muslims insert the word carpark into his Quran?
DavidW Post at 22-2-2011 22:44

DON'T BOTHER THE TRIVAL WHICH WILL LEAD TO YOUR MISDIRECTING SPEACIALTY. DID THE GOD OF THE HEBREWS OR MR. BALFOUR FROM ENGLAND GIVE PALESTINE TO THE ZIONISTS?

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DavidW

Allah said in the Quran he gave Isreal to Jews.

jfreemanns

Allah said in the Quran he gave Isreal to Jews.
DavidW Post at 23-2-2011 07:24

YOU MEAN THESE VERSES???

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YUSUFALI: Remember Moses said to his people: "O my people! Call in remembrance the favour of Allah unto you, when He produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave you what He had not given to any other among the peoples.
PICKTHAL: And (remember) when Moses said unto his people: O my people! Remember Allah's favour unto you, how He placed among you prophets, and He made you kings, and gave you that (which) He gave not to any (other) of (His) creatures.
SHAKIR: And when Musa said to his people: O my people! remember the favor of Allah upon you when He raised prophets among you and made you kings and gave you what He had not given to any other among the nations.
005.021
YUSUFALI: "O my people! Enter the holy land which Allah hath assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin."
PICKTHAL: O my people! Go into the holy land which Allah hath ordained for you. Turn not in flight, for surely ye turn back as losers:
SHAKIR: O my people! enter the holy land which Allah has prescribed for you and turn not on your backs for then you will turn back losers.

BUT DID THEY HEED THE CALL OF ALLAH UPON THEM?

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DavidW

Allah gave Israel to the Jews, not Arabs, period.