Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq

Nick Berg, 26 yr old civilian contractor from Philadelphia, owned a communications equipment company, was involved in rebuilding antennas in Iraq.

Either he worked for oil and gas company or other businesses such as rebuilding the antennas in Iraq , america still try to establish their companies for a major contract in iraq country.

[ Last edited by WICKED on 12-5-2004 at 01:52 PM ]

Originally posted by Adm_Cheng_Ho at 12-5-2004 13:48:
Nick Berg, 26 yr old civilian contractor from Philadelphia, owned a communications equipment company, was involved in rebuilding antennas in Iraq.

Yeah! Dat dude just rebuilding antennas which had been bomed by me US air force.

U see how smart we American, we give excuses, we fly in, we bombed and we rebuild Iraq... and we get paid!

U ask me how we get paid? Iragi ler... Iraqi got a lot of OIL.. but Saddam don't want to give to us.. So we bombed wat.
Any damage we rebuild, we, American don't give a damn about the Iraqi people who live in Iraq? We already hv Iraqi people in exile who're very good and very democratic and know how to please American. We think these Iraqi in exile are the best candidates to replace Saddam and their cronies. Anyway our Iraqi friend will pay us the cost of rebuilding Iraq. So easy to made business with these Iraqi friends. Dat is what we called WAR is our business!!! So dat dude that got his head cut-off is nerely a colletaral damages.. :pmuka::pmuka:

Pang5, I have no interest to dwell into incoherent talk about what the US is doing in the past & motives as that is yet another irrelevant separate issue of its own not connected whatsoever with the intended discussion in this topic.

However, to imply the case as "collateral damage" deserves contention here. I thought the victim is deliberately preyed with a clear intention of "murder". Not the kind of death inadvertently inflicted by 2 warring parties... perhaps this notion sets you apart from the moderates who deplores the victim's plight.

Baiduri Othman

Well well well guys, don't complain too much abt the video show Iraqis beheading the Americans. People are people & they're the same. Sometimes they're capable of doing anything beyond their own imagination. It's not religion that leads them to do the acts anyway. It's oppression, greed, rotten hearts he he he.

kid

Originally posted by Debmey at 12-5-2004 08:46 AM:
It is indeed a stupid thing for the mujahidins to do.
There is no strategic value in such a stunt but it exposes Islam for what it is and turn people all over the world off.

The act is not Islamic at all, what are the treatment for POW in Islam?

These are the rights that Islam confers on combatants:

1. No one should be burned alive or tortured with fire.

2. Wounded soldiers who are neither unfit to fight, nor actually fighting, should not be attacked.

3. Prisoners of war should not be killed.

4. It is prohibited to kill anyone who is tied up or in captivity.

5. Residential areas should not be pillaged, plundered or destroyed, nor should the Muslims touch the property of anyone except those who are fighting against them.

6. Muslims must not take anything from the general public of the conquered country without paying for it.

7. The corpses of the enemy must not be disgraced or mutilated.

8. Corpses of the enemy should be returned.

9. Treaties must not be broken.

Muslims are prohibited from opening hostilities without properly declaring war against the enemy, unless the adversary has already started aggression against them.

The Qur抋n describes the righteous:

[And they, though they hold it dear, give sustenance to the indigent, the orphan and the captive. (Saying) we feed you for the sake of God alone: no reward do we desire from you, nor thanks.] (Al-Insan 76:8-9)

ariyamusafir

Originally posted by Debmey at 12-5-2004 05:17:
Its disgusting. Thats reality my brother. And yu still haven't seen mujahidins torture and mutilate captives yet. can yu imagine how it was like when mo cut the eyes, tongue and limbs of his captiv ...

But the worst thing is that after seeing Americans commititng murder, you still support them.

ariyamusafir

Originally posted by Debmey at 12-5-2004 10:14:
I fully agree with Kennkid. He has to realise that these are actually cowards, not heroes.

As for Wicked, there is nothing to justify the kidnapping of Berg. He wasn't guilty of any wro ...

AND the Iarqi civilians who was murdered was not guilty too!!!!! Yet you say that you would have shot them if you are the soldiers, regarding the troops firing at a civilian car.

ariyamusafir

Originally posted by Debmey at 12-5-2004 10:28:
Come and get it muslim boy, i'm all ready for you.

cheers

Then you so afraid to come to Malaysia, why ar???

ariyamusafir

Originally posted by KENNKID at 12-5-2004 11:33:


A terrorist beheading other terrorists. Lets all stay out.;)

Roger that

ariyamusafir

Originally posted by Panglima Hitam at 12-5-2004 13:08:


Panglima tidak bersetuju dengan cara yang dilakukan oleh al-Qaeda (CNN yang cakap al-Qaeda bikin?)

But why don't we ask this questions in the first place?

When did Nick Berg (CNN say a U. ...

I fully agree with you.

Debmey

http://answering-islam.org.uk/Muhammad/Enemies/urayna.html

So how does kid answer to this?

kid

Originally posted by Debmey at 12-5-2004 11:21 PM:
http://answering-islam.org.uk/Muhammad/Enemies/urayna.html

So how does kid answer to this?

The true point of the Hadith answered here:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/urine.htm

kid

I found several strange things happened in this case (Berg beheading)

1. Berg was detained by US offcial for 13days for the reason he didn't know, and wasn't allowed to make phone calls or contact lawyer, and days after that he was found beheaded!. His parents complaint, and asked US why he wasn't escorted out of Iraq after released?

http://www.reuters.com/newsArtic ... amp;storyID=5110381

http://www.kyw1060.com/news_story_detail.cfm?newsitemid=37563

2. It was said that al-Zarqawi ordered the killing of Berg or he might did it himself, but MSNBC reported that al-Zarqawi's dead months ago, before the Berg incident happened!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4446084/


3. There is a time stamp about an 11-hour lapse between when the assailants finish their statement and push Berg down, to when they behead him. That suggests a delay between those two portions of tape posted on the Web site.
And if we see plainly the vidoe footage it looks like they behead Berg shortly after finish the statement. But why there exist 11-hour lapse when they want to show the world that they behead him instantly after reading the statement, what happened during that 11 hours? Did the beheaded man still Berg or someone else?

Let's wait for the action of Berg's parents, and wait for further discoveries... anyhow this is getting strange and stranger.

[ Last edited by kid on 13-5-2004 at 01:59 AM ]

ariyamusafir

Originally posted by kid at 13-5-2004 01:43:
I found several strange things happened in this case (Berg beheading)

1. Berg was detained by US offcial for 13days for the reason he didn't know, and wasn't allowed to make  ...

Wow!!! US had lied to the world before and they commits murder even until now, their attitude is still the same, I think worst.

kid

Originally posted by ariyamusafir at 13-5-2004 02:05 AM:

Wow!!! US had lied to the world before and they commits murder even until now, their attitude is still the same, I think worst.

Yes ariya... and here more strange things (I compiled from several websites and opinions):



4. Something doesn't seem right. Newspaper articles claim al-Zarqawi was behind the incident but all the men were wearing hoods and if someone is going to take credit for something, why not show your face? it does seem odd to wear a hood, then state your name. But then, when you find out Zarqawi has actually been dead for some months, the reason for the hood becomes obvious.... why oh why...???



5.  I am quite sure that the iraqis have known about the abuse in prisons about as long as the Red Cross, which apparently has been some time now. So if there was going to be a 'revenge' of some sort it would have happened a long time ago and by Iraqis, not members of an Afghan resistance group (Al-Qaeda)... correcto?


6. Berg was detained by US officials, then how suddenly and very quickly fall into the hands of al-Zarqawi (Al Qaeda)? and al-Zarqawi in fact already dead months ago....smell funny isn't it?


7. Many Arabs especially Iraqis said that the arabic accent of the tapes of those hooded murdereres of the onlight on Mr berg were of Iraqi accent, and Zarqawi is Jordanian..(if we assume Zarqawi still alive according to Jewish media)


8.  Notice the orange jumpsuit Mr. Berg used? Have you ever seen American prisoners of Iraqi captors in orange jumpsuits? I never have.
But one of the pictures of the Iraqi prisoners (in Abu Grhaib prison) shows an orange jumpsuit on the floor next to the naked bodies.... hmmmm


9. Does anyone think real Iraqi insurgents would do the one thing that would help Bush get out of the mess for the torture scandal? The very smartest thing the Iraqis could do was nothing and let the world stomp all over Bush for them

what else? .... let's wait for more finding...


[ Last edited by kid on 13-5-2004 at 03:29 AM ]

Originally posted by kid at 2004-5-12 19:03:


Yes ariya... and here more strange things (I compiled from several websites and opinions):



4. Something doesn't seem right. Newspaper articles claim al-Zarqawi was  ...

Where is the US Ass-Kissing Debmey:devil:? Answer ler...

p/s: Sure US lapdog Debmey will change the topic.

John Lennon

Originally posted by Debmey at 2004-5-12 05:17 AM:
But fear not, Americans will not flinch because of it. It will simply strengthen their resolve to avenge Berg's death. And thats exactly what happened in Russia. After chechen mujahids there recorded and showed videos of Russian soldiers being tortured and murdered, the Russian soldiers killed Chechens like nobody's business cos they believe they are fighting savages.

That just shows Christians can be as ****ed up as Muslim extremists.

[ Last edited by John Lennon on 13-5-2004 at 04:50 PM ]

ariyamusafir

Originally posted by kid at 13-5-2004 03:03:


Yes ariya... and here more strange things (I compiled from several websites and opinions):



4. Something doesn't seem right. Newspaper articles claim al-Zarqawi was  ...

Commenting on number 8, I often watched in the movies last time, American Prisoners in usa, WHENE BEING TRANSPORT and in prisons, they wear orange suits. The other colour which I saw is Blue, but most of the time, orange.