BRAHMOS UNTUK NGPV KEDAH & PAHANG?

eideup

Fuh.. bertambalah ATM punya sengat kalau pakai Brahmos.

mdmee

tentang saiz tak pasti ... tapi gambar kat bawah tunjuk model su-30 bawak air lauched brahmos ada cap kat mucung missile.

gancity

Originally posted by mdmee at 17-8-2006 02:58 PM
tentang saiz tak pasti ... tapi gambar kat bawah tunjuk model su-30 bawak air lauched brahmos ada cap kat mucung missile.

still will be smaller then marine version 1...like Harpoon Exocet the air version still abit small size compare the marine version...

BeachBoys

klu buleh tambah lg su-30 ,4 hingga 5 skuadron lg  baru best skit.....

laksmana_tldm

Originally posted by BeachBoys at 17-8-2006 07:25 PM
klu buleh tambah lg su-30 ,4 hingga 5 skuadron lg  baru best skit.....

Kalau ada ongkosnya....bleh la buat cam tu....

Tapi, mesti jiran kita bising punyer

gancity

wat v equip, they also will "bising"

johngage

I have always been interested in the Brahmos just as I was interested in the Alfa. But I do think that before we start thinking of equipping our ships with these missiles, we need to ask ourselves several questions:

1) We all remember what happened when the TUDM bought the A-4 Skyhawks and the MiG-29's. What is the maintenance support which is available for this missile?

2) How good is this missile in the face of modern jamming? Is it resistant to counter-measures? Can it evade CIWS? Does it have all weather capability? If it uses GPS guidance, how good is the Satellite coverage? Navstar or GLOSNASS? It has an impressive performance in tests and on paper. But I think that we should perform a thorough evaluation before committing ourselves.

3) Are there any upgrades available in the future? One of the advantages of missiles such as Exocet and Harpoon is that there is continuous development and R & D available. Is there something similar for the Brahmos? I don't see the point of purchasing a missile if it is going to be obsolete in just a few years. Malaysia should be buying systems that are going to be relevant for the next 10-15 years.

4) TLDM currently operates these missiles: Exocet, Sea Skua, Seawolf, OtomatOtomat Mark 2/Teseo and Aspide. Are ther going to be any logistical difficulties in adding another missile to our stock? Is there any benefit in just committing to one manufacturer when it comes to our anti-ship and SAM missiles? Are the BRAHMOS missiles going to be purchased in quantities which will give TLDM some real war-winning capability?

I think it is important to look an entire package and consider the combat system at all angles b4 purchasing.

BeachBoys

gi la mampus ngan masalah llogistik..kita je ygckp akan ada masalah logistik..klu bersungguh2 nak buat,masalah logistik tu cuma jadi satu masalah kecik je...nak seribu daya, xnak seribu dalih

gancity

even without Brahmos...i thk the SU-30MKM package also include KH-31A as anti ship missile

tis missiles also hv been sale few to US for testing(learning+copying)







detail info can get from here http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app4/ma-31.html

HangPC2

Originally posted by gancity at 19-8-2006 11:59 AM
even without Brahmos...i thk the SU-30MKM package also include KH-31A as anti ship missile

tis missiles also hv been sale few to US for testing(learning+copying)

http://www.designation-system ...

tak kuar gambar lah

gancity

i dun thk it "tak kuat" ...if it not powerfull & strong..Y boeing get it and copy to make it own???



[ Last edited by  gancity at 19-8-2006 03:51 PM ]

johngage

<<gi la mampus ngan masalah llogistik..kita je ygckp akan ada masalah logistik..klu bersungguh2 nak buat,masalah logistik tu cuma jadi satu masalah kecik je...nak seribu daya, xnak seribu dalih>>

Saya setuju. Tapi masalahnya orang politik bukan fikir macam itu. Naik beli SU-30MKM pun macam nak kiamat dunia. Dan di Malaysia, senjata bukan dipilih oleh Menteri Pertahanan, ATM atau MINDEF. Peruntukan di tangan Perdana Menteri dan Menteri Kewangan. Kita semua tahu senjata canggih mahal dan perlu sokongan logistik penuh. Adakah sanggup orang politik memberi peruntukan yang cukup untuk mengendalikan BRAHMOS dengan sempurna? ATM memang sanggup tapi orang atas??? Tiada faedah beli benda ini tapi masa perang tak boleh guna kerana rosak atau miss target macam Sea Skua...

[ Last edited by  johngage at 20-8-2006 10:00 AM ]

alphawolf

Originally posted by gancity at 19-8-2006 11:59
even without Brahmos...i thk the SU-30MKM package also include KH-31A as anti ship missile

tis missiles also hv been sale few to US for testing(learning+copying)

http://www.designation-system ...

IIRC the Su-30 package includes the Kh-31 in its ASM and AAEW versions...

alphawolf

Originally posted by BeachBoys at 19-8-2006 09:25
gi la mampus ngan masalah llogistik..kita je ygckp akan ada masalah logistik..klu bersungguh2 nak buat,masalah logistik tu cuma jadi satu masalah kecik je...nak seribu daya, xnak seribu dalih

teringat pulak ada satu quote ni...aku pun tak ingat dari mana...'amateurs discus tactics, professinals discus logistics'...