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Nice promotional RSN video
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Post Last Edit by rastablank at 27-12-2009 19:59
Nice, replacement for Victory Class perhaps?
Ooops, just noticed the small tag "FRIGATE", probably RSN version of FREMM? |
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After some googling, it's the Tiger Shark, future stealth frigate and Blue Shark, future stealth corvette~
Some piccies~
Tiger Shark
Blue Shark
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Post Last Edit by belacan79 at 27-12-2009 22:39
2# rastablank
Yes. The Victory class will be replaced next decade. That means a new class of ships will be built next decade. If you want the ships to be ready by 2020 to replace the Victoriy ships(which will be more than 30 years old), construction of the new class of ships should start sometime circa 2012 onwards. Or perhaps even earlier. This will accord sufficient time for construction as well as tests before commissioning.
The Victory class are strike or attack vessels. The replacements will be strike or attack vessels.
The replacements will likely be frigates. Even possibly larger frigates than the Formidables. RSN needs dedicated air defence warships in the time that is to come. Singapore has the money and the technology. What remains undone is to build these ships.
By the middle to the end of the next decade, you should not be surprise to see RSN operate as many as 12 frigates on top of 12 large patrol corvettes with hangars.
Edit: Do not be surprised if RSN purchase Aegis systems and US SPY phased array radars as well. |
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4# belacan79 My source says that the Victory Class missile corvettes will be undergoing an upgrade programme rather than being replaced.
I'll not be surprised with RSN capabilities on building frigates since they benefit a lot of ToT from the Delta Project plus they have the moolah to do so, but do they really need such formidable force in this region? On the paper with the 6 Formidable Class Frigates they are the best navy so far in SEA, I can understand the urge to replace the aging corvettes but frigates with bigger displacement than the La Fayette is overkill to combat pirates in Malacca Straits.
And I won't be surprised either if RSN future warship to be fitted with Aegis but again, do they really need them? Against which threat? China? India? or Indonesian's LAPAN , don't tell me RSN got freak up on Indonesian so called ballistic missile~ |
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5# rastablank
Across the board SAF is currently building expeditionary capabilities that allow it to be deployed around the world. Examples of this already in action are the Endurance-class LST deployments to peacekeeping and security duties in Iraq. The MCVs, being brown water fleet units, therefore need to go and be replaced by larger blue water units. Besides, we already have a fleet of 12 PVs to take care of Malacca Straits and other brown water responsibilities of the RSN.
As for them being fitted with AEGIS I don't really think so. The best I envision is a scaled down version of PAAMS that can fit on a ~3000 or 4000 ton ship to ensure commonality with the formidable class systems which already have a rudimentary PAAMS of sorts.
With regards to BMD protection, that is indeed one of the long term capability goals of the SAF. It's not just a bargaining chip against China or India, it's also insurance in case Myanmar turns rogue. Moreover, the G550 AEW platform was designed to provide BMD (and satellite) tracking and perhaps target illumination. The flexibilities of a modern AESA unit... |
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is it same design like DDG1000 (zumwalt)????
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Post Last Edit by belacan79 at 28-12-2009 09:57
5# rastablank
The upgrades are minor and mostly involves comms but I also think it involves electronic warfare systems which are left unmentioned. It is a stop-gap upgrade prior to total replacement. There is no point in making extensive upgrades only to see the class de-commissioned in less than years.
If "over-kill" is an issue, RSN would not even have bothered to build the Formidable class ships. Singapore spends money wisely and harpoons and Aster 15/30s are not meant for pirates. Obviously, there is a necessity. Lay-person like us may think that it is an over-kill but there is a purpose behind the billions spent on such equipment. Same with RSAF which operates more than 140-150 front-line combat jets.
I can think of a few reasons.
1) The need to protect sea-lanes of communication further afield from Singapore. The risk of conflicts is rising in key sea-lanes of communications but that would probably occur far away from Singapore necessitating larger ocean-going vessels.
2) Conflicts in the region would necessarily involve greater powers and Singapore needs to play a part. There are niche roles to play and ships like the Formidables fit in. RSN is expected to be part of larger coalition fleets.
3) Singapore espouses a balance of power in the region comprising the world powers(US, UK, China, etc) active in the region and regional forces. This creates a better environment for stability and growth where no single regional force or world power dominates and dictates matters. By having such ships, Singapore can add strength and support any peace-making force in the region so that the delicate balance of power is sustained. For example, RSN ships can make up for the sudden lack of USN ships in the region if the situation demands it. Traditionally, however, SAF has been very close to the US. This is more important now as it is obvious that the other navies in the region are not modernizing and expanding as fast as North East Asian forces.
4) As a developed country( Singapore is already a developed country as categorized by the IMF), Singapore would be expected to play more important military and peace-keeping roles on the world stage. Early next year, RSN will take leadership of Combined Task Force(CTF) 151 in the Gulf of Eden comprising ships from NATO and diverse other navies. You`ll need larger and sophisticated warships for the latter role
5) Back home, the number of sophisticated and agile anti-surface missiles, combat aircrafts and naval ships are expected to grow; albiet slower than North East Asia. RSN needs better and more capable ships. It is only a matter of time before someone in the region starts using ballistic missile. RSN needs to be ready with the right platforms to combat such threats in concert with land based forces. In terms of magnitude of harm, however, I would categorise ballistic missiles in the same category as cruise missiles unless they are equipped with war-heads of mass destruction. However, that would already be a different ball game.
In the greater East Asian region, you will see bigger and more numerous and capable combat vessels. Hence, RSN needs to react. China, for example, is expected to deploy reasonably large carriers end of next decade. RSN cannot build carriers but it can build powerful anti-air frigates or destroyers. The rest of Asean would still not have the finances or technological finesse to build or operate such ships by then. We cannot counter PLAN alone. But we will do it with the RAAN, USN, etc. |
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Post Last Edit by belacan79 at 28-12-2009 10:12
6# mentosonline
Totally agree. The G550 Phalcons can track ballistic missile launchers. We would need other platforms as well so that the AEW planes are not overly saturated. The best platforms are ones at sea as they are mobile and flexible; something akin to Australia`s Hobart anti-air frigates.
Hmm, Mentos, they are presently several SPY radars with accompanying Aegis systems on sale now(of course to selected Us allies and partners). There is even one for corvette size vessels.
Given the utility of such phased array radars, I still think that it is very possible RSN might opt for them in future, considering the latent and powerful BMD capabilities for future threats (SPY-1F and above)
It might even be the case of simply the SPY radars minus the Aegis system and our back-end battle-management systems |
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9# belacan79
Singapore has shown interest in DCN`s Swordship, a 5000 ton plus stealth frigate. Slap some SPY-1D radars there with 48-64 vls cell launchers and you have a good anti-air defence destroyer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK5WOXZknk0 |
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