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by mashimaru83
Well, Islamic laws do cover that. Action against another person and also God. So, again, what is the issue here?
Issue here is that your (Islamic) law means $hit in actual practice. You cannot tell humans not to do this and that and expect them to follow. That is like saying everyone in a country following Common law are law-binding citizens and that they will not break the laws.
True Laws of God is the one where it addresses the dark nature of Man and tries to prevent him from committing evil actions. In that context, only Hinduism and Buddhism, with its Dharma and Karma principles able to do such that.
Again there is punishment for every action in Islamic laws.
What is the Law and punishment for an adult person harming an unborn child in Islam?
I'm talking about sinful people who want to repent after killing unborn child. So, what should they do if repentance is not an option for them? What is the benefit of doing good if Hell is the only final destination?
Why should sinful people repent? Did they think when they were performing the (sinful) action? Did they feel guilty when they perform lustful activities which lead to pregnancy? Did they think that it is best to give birth and give the child for adoption - which was a better choice than to have abortion? IF they do not think of all these, then why should I be bothered whether they want to repent afterward? TO HELL WITH THEM. They can settle their score in the bowels of Hell. 
Wrong. That is just a made up statement by you. No such thing exist in Islamic teachings. Please bring the evidence if you speak the truth! Else, stop saying anything you don't know about!
It is not what I said; it is what is being practised by Muslims. Muslims believe that they can do whatever evil actions they want (except to equalize their Arabic god, Allah to other gods) and they can repent and be forgiven. That is why many willing to commit adultery, thief, lies and many more sinful activities without any sense of guilt. |
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Sephiroth posted on 27-12-2013 04:02 PM 
by mashimaru83 Sephiroth
Issue here is that your (Islamic) law means $hit in actual practice. You cannot tell humans not to do this and that and expect them to follow. That is like saying everyone in a country following Common law are law-binding citizens and that they will not break the laws.
True Laws of God is the one where it addresses the dark nature of Man and tries to prevent him from committing evil actions. In that context, only Hinduism and Buddhism, with its Dharma and Karma principles able to do such that.
Sephiroth
What is the Law and punishment for an adult person harming an unborn child in Islam?
Sephiroth
Why should sinful people repent? Did they think when they were performing the (sinful) action? Did they feel guilty when they perform lustful activities which lead to pregnancy? Did they think that it is best to give birth and give the child for adoption - which was a better choice than to have abortion? IF they do not think of all these, then why should I be bothered whether they want to repent afterward? TO HELL WITH THEM. They can settle their score in the bowels of Hell.
Sephiroth
It is not what I said; it is what is being practised by Muslims. Muslims believe that they can do whatever evil actions they want (except to equalize their Arabic god, Allah to other gods) and they can repent and be forgiven. That is why many willing to commit adultery, thief, lies and many more sinful activities without any sense of guilt.
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by Mashimaru83
Google up Hukum Qisas and Diyat and also Hukum Takzir.
I don't need to do $hit. Why should I proof anything about Islam? My belief - Islam do not have laws which punishes people who commit abortion (because people who does it can always repent). IF you say otherwise, PROOF IT.
After all, hell is the only final destination for them as there is no other choice.
Yes, they have NO CHOICE. Either they stop sinning, or settle their score in hell. Their choice. 
Why cherry-pick, then try to blame Islam?
Because that is what your Muslims are doing, therefore it is logical to assume that Islam made them in such way. |
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Sephiroth posted on 27-12-2013 05:06 PM
by Mashimaru83 Sephiroth
I don't need to do $hit. Why should I proof anything about Islam? My belief - Islam do not have laws which punishes people who commit abortion (because people who does it can always repent). IF you say otherwise, PROOF IT
Sephiroth
Yes, they have NO CHOICE. Either they stop sinning, or settle their score in hell. Their choice.
Sephiroth
Because that is what your Muslims are doing, therefore it is logical to assume that Islam made them in such way.
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Sephiroth posted on 30-12-2013 09:25 AM
by mashimaru83 Sephiroth
How do you know what I said is a lie IF you don't show any proof of it. The fact doesn't change - Islam is FALSE, your Muhammad is false prophet and evil man and you are fools for following him. That is fact. Now, get the F%&k out of Hinduism column. 
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof
The burden of proof lies with someone who is making a claim, and is not upon anyone else to disprove. The inability, or disinclination, to disprove a claim does not render that claim valid, nor give it any credence whatsoever. Sephiroth
It is not my fault if you Muslims do not have enough mental power to understand what is written in Bhavagad Gita. It was designed for humans (and not animals like you Muslims).
Sephiroth
So you agree that Islam made you as murderers, cutthroats, barbarians and ba$tards? GOOD FOR YOU. Now F%&K OFF. 
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Mashimaru83, IF you finished bull$hitting, I will now go back to my thread on Hinduism and Sacrifice. I have sacrificed enough time entertaining you.  |
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Sephiroth posted on 30-12-2013 04:08 PM
Mashimaru83, IF you finished bull$hitting, I will now go back to my thread on Hinduism and Sacrifice ... Sephiroth
Mashimaru83, IF you finished bull$hitting, I will now go back to my thread on Hinduism and Sacrifice. I have sacrificed enough time entertaining you.
So we can conclude here that evidentially you were simply making things up about Islam.
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Oh Arjuna, both the paths of Yoga and Sannyaas lead one to supreme bliss and happiness. However, I shall always regard Yoga as the better path to the attainment of supreme peace and unity with Me, than the path of Sannyaas.
-Shloka 2, Bhavagad Gita.
Path of Yoga (Jnana, Bhakti and understanding of Karma (thus Gyan or Wisdom)) and Path of Sannyaas (Renouncing of the World) are two paths to God (Bhagwan).
Those who follows the Path of Yoga will perform the tasks upon this World (thus accumulate Karma) but because they do not seek the fruits of their actions (the merit or sin), they could perform the action for sake of everyone and not for individual purpose. A soldier who follows the Path of Yoga will fight for sake of the Peace and tranquility of the Society, regardless of who he fights with - even if it is his own brother. A doctor who follows this path, will perform his duty and do not regard himself as the savior of a person but merely a tool of the Divine to save others. Note - IF a doctor consider himself in par to God to save life, then he should also consider himself as a murderer to fail to safe life as well. Thus, it is clear how renouncing the fruit of one's actions works in this situation.
Path of Sannyaas is a path which a person (individual) renounces the World and its pleasures (and pain) and concentrates solely on seeking deattachment and separation. Buddhism is one Path of Sannyaas, according to Bhavagad Gita, thus those who follows Buddhism are still considered moving toward the Bhagwan even so they could not admit so.
Shri Krishna spoke clearly which Path He likes more (Path of Yoga). There is a reason for this. Those who follows Path of Sannyaas does so for selfish reason. They want to renounce the World and therefore, seeks not to perform any sacrifice for the greater good. In such way, those who follow this Path are selfish individuals. However, those who follows the Path of Yoga continued to perform actions and sacrifices for the greater good of the society. By deattaching themselves of the fruits of the actions, one become emotionless, one-minded and tranquil in face of hardship, suffering, pain, pleasure, found and loss. |
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Bedah.Cun posted on 2-1-2014 05:03 PM
Haaaa, aper lagik???? Silakanh sayangku especially kat mamicun tersayang... Bedah takkan bangkang ka ...
dia tulis dalam bahasa inggeris ka? ekekeke
ni nak kutuk2 agama org lain ka? |
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Bedah.Cun posted on 2-1-2014 05:19 PM
Bagus gak kalau korang berdebat cakap BI macam Ahmad Deedat, ngehee
Kalau tahap ilmu anda hanya bab sekolah pondok, tak payah masuk Internet nak berdebat konon. Buang masa orang je. 
Ini bukan disrespect agama orang lain. Ini adalah column agama Hindu. Di sini, kami (bukan Islam) tak perlu sangat menghormati agama Arab kamu itu.
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Who is a Hindu according to Bhavagad Gita?
Hinduism is very different from other religious practise (except for Buddhism) when comes to showing who are the devotees of God and who is not. In other religions (like Islam and Christianity), you are considered devotee of God if you believe and practise your religion. However, that is not the same case with Hinduism. Practising a ritual (such as praying, fasting and meditation) are not proof of a devotion to God. These are done by everyone (whom are called laymen) and one must rise above this practise to become a devotee.
As described in Bhavagad Gita :-
"He should then practice Yoga for the purpose of purifying his mind and soul, focusing his thoughts on one point (God) at all times, and fully controlling the functions of the mind and senses."
- Shloka 12
"There must be a constant balance in everything a Yogi does. Eating too much or eating too little, sleeping too much or sleeping too little, for example are not the methods of suceeding in this Yoga."
Men of self-control become sinless and fearless. They acquire great results. Every sort of excitement is effortlessly controlled by self-control. The enemies of the self-controlled man are seen by him - they are lust, anger, desire - as if they dwell in a separate body.
The self-controlled man becomes desirous of liberation. He quietly bears present joys and sorrows and griefs; he is never overjoyed or depressed by prospective ones. He is devoid of all vindictiveness and guile. He is unaffected by praise or censure.
A self-controlled man is well-balanced. He has good manners, purity and fortitude. He is a perfect master of his passions. He is devoted to universal benevolence. He never feels animosity for anyone. He is tranquil, wise and cheerful.
A self-controlled man is endowed with intelligence. He gains universal reverence. He fears no creature and in return he is feared by no creature.
Overcoming lust and anger, practising the vow of brahmacharya (celibacy) and becoming a complete master of the senses, the holy one patiently waits. Practising the austerest of penances and observing the most rigid of restraints,he lives in the world and calmly waits the time. He is like somebody who has a body and yet seems to know that he is not subject to destruction.
Meditation is freeing the mind from all objects and thoughts of sensual enjoyment. If this is done then God-realisation comes of itself. God will enthrone himself in your heart and meditation will come of itself. If you bring a light into a cave which has been dark for thousands of years, the darkness will vanish at once, by itself. You do not have to strive to drive the darkness away. If you attempt to put your hand into a pot which is filled with dust and dirt, you cannot. But if you empty it, then you can easily put your hand into the pot. Even so, if you empty the mind of all its dust and dirt, God will enter into it in the twinkling of an eye.
Posted by Swami Suryadevananda at 01:00
Sivananda Daily Reading
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