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[Tempatan] JAKIM sahkan tiada DNA babi dlm Cadbury. Update : Pegawai JAKIM sedia makan

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Post time 2-6-2014 03:40 PM | Show all posts
munchkin posted on 2-6-2014 03:21 PM
pakai credit card wave je kita sorang je sentuh dan menjaga kesucian nya.

Lepas ni digalakkan semua ummah muslim memakai kad untuk mengelakkan pencemaran DNA. Sebelum guna sila samak ye..kemungkinan orang yang mengepos tu baru lepas melahap viva kekdahnya..
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Post time 2-6-2014 03:44 PM | Show all posts
kazaraf posted on 2-6-2014 03:39 PM
Batch yang sama encik...

jadi...adakah itu bermaksud no batch tu...sama sample dari batch yg KKM kata ada DNA babi tu?.

Tapi besar kemungkinan tak...no batch tu adalah kumpulan beribu2 cokolat yg diproses didalam tempat pemprosesan yg sama?...yg KKM tu plak dapat dari pasaran..yg Jakim tu diambil dari kilang direct.
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Post time 2-6-2014 03:44 PM | Show all posts
Anak_Nogori posted on 2-6-2014 03:40 PM
penguatkuasa jakim tu bukan ramai mana pun..produk bukannya satu..beribu2 beratus ribu..tak mungki ...

sebab tu saya kata uncle. penghasilan coklat ni dibuat secara mass production (bukan 1-10 biji coklat sehari). kalau lawatan secara mengejut, mereka ada masa nak tukar bahan yang telah diproses secara bertan bertan tu? kemungkinan besar tidak sebab raw material dah beli etc. test coklat tu sebelum masuk dalam packaging. kalau ada, terbukti adalah.

kalau tiada dan di pasaran luar ada, kemungkinan contamination telah berlaku.

kalau test duit kertas dan syiling, pun 100% ada dna babei.



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Post time 2-6-2014 03:45 PM | Show all posts
julia5094 posted on 2-6-2014 03:40 PM
Lepas ni digalakkan semua ummah muslim memakai kad untuk mengelakkan pencemaran DNA. Sebelum guna  ...

yes yes of course. iols semua benda aku wipekan
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Post time 2-6-2014 03:47 PM | Show all posts
Anak_Nogori posted on 2-6-2014 03:44 PM
jadi...adakah itu bermaksud no batch tu...sama sample dari batch yg KKM kata ada DNA babi tu?.

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haha ntahla, sbb aku pn bukan keje dlm bidang production mcm ni. mybe kelompok pengeluaran yang sama. yg diproduce antara tarikh sekian hingga sekian.

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Post time 2-6-2014 03:48 PM | Show all posts
lebih baik kkm ni pergi test bahan bahan memudaratkan spt preservatives, additives, coloring tu daripada sibuk mencari dna babei. bersepah bahan bahan tu kat pasaran, dna babei jugak yg dicari.

pergi serbu kedai kedai yang tak ikut standard kesihatan and bukan base pada orang report sahaja baru nak diserbu.

orang makan cirit birit and mati pun ada. Last edited by munchkin on 2-6-2014 03:49 PM

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Post time 2-6-2014 03:49 PM | Show all posts
munchkin posted on 2-6-2014 03:44 PM
sebab tu saya kata uncle. penghasilan coklat ni dibuat secara mass production. kalau lawatan secar ...

tapi mungkin tak raw material yg digajetkan masa nak minta sijil halal dari Jakim dulu..memang tidak mengandungi DNA babi...tapi pihak kilang masukkan sejenis serbuk babi yg tidak digajetkan tu..utk membuatkan cokolatnya tahan lama..

so..serbuk dna babi tu senang2 je disuruk dibuang oleh pihak cadbury?..
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Post time 2-6-2014 03:53 PM | Show all posts
ditanggung halal... besarnya responsibilities. enough said.
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Post time 2-6-2014 03:53 PM | Show all posts
kazaraf posted on 2-6-2014 03:47 PM
haha ntahla, sbb aku pn bukan keje dlm bidang production mcm ni. mybe kelompok pengeluaran yang sa ...

so..saya jangkakan sudah tentu bukan dari sample yg sama dgn KKM tu...no batch je yg sama..
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Post time 2-6-2014 03:53 PM | Show all posts
Anak_Nogori posted on 2-6-2014 03:49 PM
tapi mungkin tak raw material yg digajetkan masa nak minta sijil halal dari Jakim dulu..menang tid ...

i dont think so uncle. nak beli serbuk babei sudah additional cost kat situ.

kenapa nak guna produk babei sebagai preservative utk tahan lama? tak pun saya tahu preservative serbuk babi boleh buat barang tahan lama. kalau tak semua bahan makanan ada serbuk babei serbaguna ni

kalau dah ada serbuk babei dalam kawah besar cadbury tu. macam mana pun test akan tetap kata ada. ingat senang ke nak cuci kalau orang buat lawatan mengejut.

anyway makeup dna babei ada berhampiran dgn makeup dna manusia menurut maklumat.

mungkinlah kot serbuk babei ni ditambah di mesia utk bahan bahan sebelum ni spt tabasco, golden churn, cadburry. kat overseas takde pulak. untuk "mematikan" market omputih ni.
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Post time 2-6-2014 03:56 PM | Show all posts
kazaraf posted on 2-6-2014 01:53 PM
pasal kenapa KKM buat tu - rasanya diorg menjalankan tugas dibawah akta peraturan2 makanan kot. na ...

aku rasa xde la KKM  tu cakap coklat cadburry tu haram. cuma dia cuma mengesahkan terdapat trace of DNA babi pada sampel coklat yang diuji.

so bila dah nampak babi..automatik semua cakap haram lah.... especially melayu sunni
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Post time 2-6-2014 03:56 PM | Show all posts
munchkin posted on 2-6-2014 03:53 PM
i dont think so uncle. nak beli serbuk babei sudah additional cost kat situ.

kenapa nak guna p ...

apa sangat dgn kos...dibandingkan produk tahan lama dan sedap sehingga menjilat jari dgn produk tak ada dna babi tapi cepat caput..lepas tu tak sedap plak..
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Post time 2-6-2014 04:00 PM | Show all posts
Anak_Nogori posted on 2-6-2014 03:56 PM
apa sangat dgn kos...dibandingkan produk tahan lama dan sedap sehingga menjilat jari dgn produk ta ...

saya lebih berminat kalau kkm dan pihak lain terbabit pergi round and test about food safety and health daripada cari dna babei.

spt saya katakan ramai rela mati infected daripada dna babei ni.

kit babei hangat di pasaran. kit test bakteria tak pulak dibelinya.
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Post time 2-6-2014 04:02 PM | Show all posts
mana yang nak cuci darah tu..mesti x keluar rumah dah. hehehe sabar ye la pkcik mkcik, tggu lain lak eh.

tp cadbury ni mendatang kan was was plak dah jadi mcm ni.aihhhh
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Post time 2-6-2014 04:07 PM | Show all posts
munchkin posted on 2-6-2014 04:00 PM
saya lebih berminat kalau kkm dan pihak lain terbabit pergi round and test about food safety and h ...

yg uncle setuju..disamping tu mana kajian dari pihak Cadbury plak?..apa punca sebenarnya cokolatnya tercemar DNA babi?..adakah disebabkan bercampur masa penghantaran dalam lori bercampur dgn panggang babi?.
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Post time 2-6-2014 04:08 PM | Show all posts
makton posted on 2-6-2014 12:31 PM
tak tau la sumber ni sahih ke tak???

awat mcm bodo je mamat ni tulis...nmpk mcm officer....fake akaun kah?
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Post time 2-6-2014 04:10 PM | Show all posts
babi betul la sekejap ada sekejap tak.. kesian babi ari2 orang duk ratib hehe.. yang pasti cadbury malaysia da rugi teruk hehehe
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Post time 2-6-2014 04:10 PM | Show all posts
Anak_Nogori posted on 2-6-2014 03:56 PM
apa sangat dgn kos...dibandingkan produk tahan lama dan sedap sehingga menjilat jari dgn produk ta ...

sesuka hati ko je AN...
cokelat oberC mcm whittaker, lindt, milka, ferrero, hersheys mostly suitable for vegetarian..
tak de babi lembu kambing biawak monyet anjing bagai...
semua sedap bagai menjilat babi...



adoila..... pprt sangat
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Post time 2-6-2014 04:10 PM | Show all posts
Anak_Nogori posted on 2-6-2014 12:33 PM
Kes cadbury ni mulanya dari KKM yg sahkan ada DNA Babi....apa Jakim tak amik ke sample cadbury yg  ...

kalau ambik dari kilang sah2 acadbury boleh buat yg tkde dna babi...baik ambik yg dari pasaran...confirm cadbury tak  leh nak lari punya
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 Author| Post time 2-6-2014 04:10 PM | Show all posts
Malaysia
Cadbury’s pork chocolates a case of ‘now you see it, now you don’t’, Perkasa says
By Shazwan Mustafa KamalJune 2, 2014



Earlier today, Jakim announced that the two batches of Cadbury chocolate products previously found tainted with porcine DNA have now been declared halal for Muslim consumption. — AFP pic

KUALA LUMPUR, June 2 ― Muslim rights group Perkasa hit out today at the government for its “flip flop” over the halal status of Cadbury’s chocolates, likening the mysterious discovery of pig DNA in the confectionary to an old biscuit advertisement that carried the tagline, “Now you see it, now you don’t.”

Its secretary-general Syed Hassan Syed Ali questioned the Ministry of Health's previous finding of porcine DNA in the chocolate batches and why this differed from the latest finding from the Malaysian Islamic Development Department (Jakim).

“I can equate this issue to that of the biscuit commercial... 'sekejap ada sekejap tak ada' (now you see, now you don't),” he told The Malay Mail Online in a text message, in sarcastic reference to an old Chipsmore biscuit commercial.

“It is a flip-flop which has affected the entire Cabinet,” the Perkasa leader said, adding that the group's religious bureau will be releasing a statement on the Cadbury issue soon.

He said the government’s volte-face over the halal status of two batches of Cadbury chocolates will lead to even more confusion among Muslims.

Earlier today, Jakim announced that the two batches of Cadbury chocolate products previously found tainted with porcine DNA have now been declared halal for Muslim consumption.

Datuk Seri Dr Jamil Khir Baharom, the minister in charge of Islamic religious affairs, said 11 samples of the confectionary giant’s Cadbury Dairy Milk Hazelnut and the Cadbury Dairy Milk Roast Almond were sent straight from the factory to a special accredited laboratory for testing.

Cadbury’s Malaysian outfit had scrambled to recall two batches of chocolate products found tainted with porcine DNA by the Health Ministry last Saturday.

In response to this, Perkasa youth chief Irwan Fahmi Ideris blamed the Health Ministry for “jumping the gun” by conducting its own tests without prior consultation with Jakim.

“Why were they not more thorough in the matter? Now it is difficult to fix this, even though Jakim now says it is halal, if a Muslim is 'was-was' (unsure) of the chocolate's halal status, it is as good as it being haram.

“Muslims will be more confused now, it is difficult to undo this. The Health Ministry must answer why was there not a thorough investigation done,” he told The Malay Mail Online when contacted.

More than 20 Malay-Muslim groups have called for a nationwide boycott on all Cadbury products, saying that a holy war needs to be waged against the confectionary giant for attempting to “weaken” Muslims in Malaysia.

Rumours of the porcine taint first cropped up on social media sites two weeks ago, prompting the Health Ministry to carry out an analysis.

- See more at: http://www.themalaymailonline.co ... thash.n2LYLoYr.dpuf
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