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Malaysia weighs Boeing, Sukhoi bids for next fighter deal
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220# lil_riyaz Huhu, sume org tgh menunggu LIMA 2009 dgn penuh debaran~ |
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218# guyfawke Klau ikut wiki:
5 unit CB90
12 unit CB90HEX
Klau CB90 kita fitted with Hellfire lagi best, biar terkujat geng2 buluh runcing tu nnt~ |
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220# lil_riyaz Huhu, sume org tgh menunggu LIMA 2009 dgn penuh debaran~
rastablank Post at 15-10-2009 21:28
tu la....gripen marketing ni pun mcm tak bersungguh je...kot ye nak melobi bawak mai la demo tu kasi terbang wat airshow...berdebar dah debar dah..... |
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tak payah bawak airshow, letak iklan dlm surat khabar banyak2, macam BAE buat dulu.....lepas tu bagi prasun buat commentary sikit dlm Malay mail....ada le org yg dpt hint tu |
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224# guyfawke Tak payah tunggu Prasun atau Marhalim atau Shahpaskal to write in the Mail. Kita pun boleh tulis dalam the Mail atau NST sbgai desakan kepada Gomen.. |
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dulu selalu gak jd silent reader thread mig replacement tuh...la dah tak leh dah...napa tak di open je?tanya je...mana la tau kot2 pak menteri or executive decision maker yg tau pasal tht thread nak baca and gather/gauge info/support fm public dah tak dapek dah cos tak cukup level...:-) |
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Saab NCW capability theoretically nampak mcm yg paling mantap but definitely in between it's own manufactured product..so deal SAAB gripen + AWACS tuh mmg yg terbaik la rasanya since gap created by mig decommissioning kene isi cepat2 and currently only SAAB can fill the gap as soon as possible...ye la kot.... |
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Okay, what can we expect from LIMA in regards to RMAF requirement obviously:
- Replacement for MiG-29N / NUB (possibly by Saab's Gripen deal)
- New AEW plane (as per Swedish Saab package deal that includes Gripen sales)
- Additional 6 Su-30 MKMs (barter trade of ex-RMAF existing MiG-29N fleet)
- Resumed replacement of Nuri choppers
I think that covers it, as for MY Army, the replacement for Sibmas & Condor APCs, while RMN might be getting 2nd batch NGPV & the more immediate LPD/LHD replacement.
Did I missed out anything? |
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My hope if the AEW&C do happen it is fine with Erricsson as long as not on SAAB aircraft since this aircraft is no longer in a production albeit there are at least 60 to 70 of this aircraft in Asia Pacific alone. To me Embraer is a good platform already. |
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Post Last Edit by gancity at 18-10-2009 21:17
Okay, what can we expect from LIMA in regards to RMAF requirement obviously:
- Replacement for MiG-29N / NUB (possibly by Saab's Gripen deal)
- New AEW plane (as per Swedish Saab package deal that ...
robotech Post at 18-10-2009 16:31
tis may not happen
- Additional 6 Su-30 MKMs (barter trade of ex-RMAF existing MiG-29N fleet)
according klsreview interview wit panglima TUDM, TUDM no plan to get more MKM and they will look for new interceptor for replace Mig-29n while still look for 2nd batch of MRCA....
source from: http://www.klsreview.com/HTML/2009Jul_Dec/20091014_01.html (need google translate)
ab AEW, v can get Ericson but not in Saab plantform...
2nd batch NGPV for me, 3 more PV - N.Sembilan, Perlis & Johor (all sultan state hv PV...jst left tis 3) + 2 - 4 anti-submarine vessel...
(should get "$" help from Petrons & MISC)
no budget jst get LPD 1st...
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kalau bajet team F1 1Malaysia tu disalur ke pertahanan dulu kan bagus...lagi penting apa defence dari promo F1 tuh..ke tak?? |
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kls report about su30 yg dah ditranslate:
KLS Gong Geda Report: Malaysia's air force commander Rocha was confirmed that Malaysia has no intention of additional SU-30MKM multi-role fighter amount.
Russia has to offer for Malaysia to buy back 15 MiG-29N fighters to Malaysia to provide six SU-30MKM. (Malaysia's existing 16 MiG-29N fighters, most have been grounded)
Rocha that, at the Air Force is currently no such additional SU-30MKM multi-role fighter will, but will also look for other models of multi-role fighter.
"No, we do not have the will."
Rocha-ri on October 12 to Gong Geda Air Force Base to inspect the SU-30MKM multi-role fighter squadron after the press conference to answer reporter's question, so KLS said.
Asked MiG-29N fighters to replace the latest progress Romania has also confirmed that Charlie, the Air Force will be at the 10th Malaysia Plan, the replacement of MiG fighter jets and purchase a new multi-role fighter.
Luo Charlie Air Force no longer willing to stand an additional SU-30MKM aircraft, Does that mean that it will be excluded from the 2011 started to buy a new multi-role fighter squadrons of choices for it? Because it accounts for the armed forces commander Admiral Aziz said, the Air Force to be formed by six multi-role fighter squadrons, their aircraft is not more than three kinds of models.
Since the six multi-purpose fighter squadrons of aircraft types can not be more than 3, then the F-18 and Su-30MKM has been made into the ticket, and the future seems to only F-18 and Su-30MKM, based on the purchase of another multi-role fighter. If the SU-30MKM are excluded, it may only F-18F or the new multi-role fighter. In any case, the end result must wait for the 10th Malaysia Plan baked.
The following are questions and answers at the press conference that day was recorded:
Q: Can we follow up the SU-30MKM fighter squadrons of the latest progress?
A: Well, no problem. 18 SU-30MKM fighter planes had been stationed at Air Force Base, Gong Geda. Integration is still in progress. Indeed there were a variety of challenges, but the Air Force is convinced that the strict supervision of a professional team and close co-operation, these challenges can be overcome. On the whole, including the integration of related work, including progress in accordance with the schedule.
Q: Does Russia's security team is to stay in Malaysia do?
A: Yes. They also will also give us the relevant support.
Q: Will, SU-30MKM warranty period is how many years?
Answer: There is a part of the SU-30MKM warranty period has expired. The length of warranty period is based on the date when the plane deployment, so there is a part expired.
Q: The Indian areas?
Answer: well, Malaysia and India co-operation between the two parties is smooth. We recently conducted a STAFF TALK, discussed the issue of SU fighter. They have a team to be stationed at the Gong Geda Air Force Base, provides us with the relevant flight and maintenance training. Of our cooperation is very good.
Q: SU-30MKM aerial refueling planes to whether the integration of work?
A: Yes. In progress, in preparation.
Q: MiG fighter replacement has not have the latest progress?
A: We plan to replace the 10th Malaysia Plan. I should say, the Air Force will purchase a new type of multi-role fighter. |
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apa lagi? speculate lagi la kita.... f/a 18f and gripen anyone? |
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apa lagi? speculate lagi la kita.... f/a 18f and gripen anyone?
windof Post at 19-10-2009 01:01
hmm....i think like tis...buy American and get whateva they sees fit depending on Congress’sgrant and courtesy, after all we’re still the ugly duckling brother incomparison wt Uncle Sam’s other fav son in this region…Buy Rusky’s andget ready to spend..spend..spend all the way be itmaintenance..spares..upgrades..So why not go for European?After all the Gripen offer isindeed an offer we can’t refuse..fighters+AWACS+MPA's...yummy!!! |
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Yeah why don't we go for Swedish blondes? However her heart is still, uh, American! |
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al least not the whole body...a mix breed would surely do better..;-)... |
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236# lil_riyaz
Since her heart is AMerican, there is still that specter (real or imaginary) of 'possible embargo'...can we go 100% Eurobabe? |
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well..rasanya ada few eurobabes around but some are just far beyond reach while some are just plain b*t*h and full of ugly surprises....put the engine aside...it's the system, network and tech of the gripen tht made it a true gem..and they're pure european all the way...though GE contributes 60% to the engine component it's mainly still SAAB's call..kalau uncle sam nak embargo us wt wateva stakes they have in the gripen...then it's the hornets tht's gonna feel the pain more...n'way..as for now...my vote goes to the gripen..;-) |
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2nd batch NGPV for me, 3 more PV - N.Sembilan, Perlis & Johor (all sultan state hv PV...jst left tis 3)
gancity Post at 18-10-2009 20:19
Maybe you should look at the previous ship class bearing current Kedah-class names. That should give you a clue as to the next set of names and quantity. |
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errr....back to the main question....boeing ke...sukhoi ke...or ada company lain2 lagi?? |
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