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CN-235= Range with Full Load 1,300 km-dlm pengeluaran
C-295= Range with full Load 1,333 km,stretched version of the EADS/CASA CN-235
beza cuma cn295 ni panjang sikit..dan boleh bwk lebih muatan..
apa2 pun,yg penting adalah sensor2 yg akan dipasang. |
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Reply #14 gancity's post
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For me, CN-235 as well. Also, if we get more A-400M and a future heavy-lift helo we may look to converting the 8 CN-235s we already have into MPA versions. In addition to buying purpose-built units of course. |
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Whatever it is please not the Nimrod. Ah! ugly!
A question, in terms of altitude operations, do jet and turbo-prop engine planes differ? For instance, does a jet engine MPA can fly low for airdrops?
Kalau turbo-prop tu dah tentu boleh. |
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one of malaysian company involved in the upgarding of NIMROD MR2 to NIMROD MR4.......Excelnet Sdn Bhd
Excelnet wins RM12m contract
New Straits Times 1 March 2000
Kuala Lumpur, Tues. - A Malaysian company, Excelnet Sdn Bhd, has secured a RM12 million contract associated with the design and development of 21 units of BAE Systems Nimrod MRA2P Maritime Surveillance and Patrol Aircraft.
BAE System in a Press release yesterday said the Nimrod MRA2P aircraft which belongs to the British Ministry of Defence is a search and rescue/maritime patrol and submarine hunter.
Excelnet, through BAE Systems, has secured the contract to design the aircraft抯 flight deck, flying control mechanism, floor structure installation and other design packages.
An engineering design centre, Excelnet is a joint venture between Composite Technology Research Malaysia, First Alliance Corporation Berhad (FACB) and Dataprep (M) Sdn Bhd.
The company was formed in mid 1997 to establish a world class engineering design centre in Malaysia offering total engineering solutions to international quality standards.
link : http://www.excelnet.com.my/nimrod.asp
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Reply #23 RainbowSix's post
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true, it is ugly........but believe me.....this is the best MPA ive ever exercised with......ive experienced 3 type of MPA AP3/ATL3/NIMROD.......and the best still belong to NIMROD, eventhough the endurance 2 hour shorter than P3C..... |
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Reply #23 RainbowSix's post
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regarding altitude and airdrop restrictions, im not certain on it......maybe other forrumers may answer ur querries..... |
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Reply #25 bravotwozero's post
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Nimrod ni rasanya bagus untuk ASW. Pack with sensors with MAD and surface search radar. Tapi for MPA? Ok gak ke? |
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for me ok........coz big air frame capable for carrying a lot of fuel for endurance eventhough jet engines.......and also allowing for more sensor fittings......
good surface search radar......but the speed will hampered a bit effectiveness of surface surveillance......i think so
but off course , there are cons also..... too big, ugly, fuel consumption very high, require long runaway etc........
[ Last edited by bravotwozero at 10-3-2007 05:44 PM ] |
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cn 235 also is a good candidate......but i am not really sure how capable is this platform for MPA roles......but i do believe it will just fine coz it is almost the same as P3 Orion turboprop aircraft.......
but i think it will be better if we can installed allround 360 degree radar system on it , instead of sectoral radar (forward looking radar).........just like the seaspray....
maybe u guyz can elaborate more on this Pro and cons of 360 degree radar and sectoral radar........ |
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another wise choice.....EMB 145 P99 MP......
equipped with THALES AMASCOS system
Saphire FLIR
Ocean Master 360 degree radar
capable of carrying 4 exocet
endurance 8H
impressive.......
but no ASW capabilities....
might be adjust to our need.....for swing role..... |
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A squadron of EMB 145 SA for AWACS role...for RMAF .....4 in number
A squadron of EMB 145 MP for MPA role....for RMN....6 in number
that will do........hmm....nice combination.... |
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No to CN-235
Cantik sangat untuk Excelnet Sdn Bhd untuk kontrak bernilai RM12 million untuk design and development 21 units of BAE Systems Nimrod MRA2P Maritime Surveillance and Patrol Aircraft.
Aku rasa tak elok sangat kalau MPA kita semua berkiblatkan Indonesia sangat ni... hubungan kita bukannya sentiasa baik. Don't put all your eggs in the same basket. Remember? Pesan orang tua-tua?
Excelnet pun dapat teknologi mereka flight deck, flying control mechanism, floor structure installation dan pelbagai pakej lagi. Itu sudah dikira hebat. Jangan harap Indon nak ajar kita buat MPA sendiri. 100% yes to BAE in this issue. Smart partnership. |
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But again no other airforce or marine in the world except RAF using NIMROD for MPA and anti ship platform! |
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Good points raised by Laxamana on not being overly reliant on Indonesia. But also agree with Canaletto, Nimrod not a wise choice because of limited number of users. OTOH, what exactly is this smart partnerhip that BAE is proposing?
BTW, the Embraer triplets are very sexy!  |
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Reply #33 Laxamana.'s post
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Hubungan dengan siapa pun tak ada boleh jamin.... |
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oic.....they do have the ASW capabilities..... |
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Reply #34 Canaletto's post
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x de sape selain UK gune NIMROD, doesnt mean that NIMROD is not good..........it is becoz of the price and high fuel consumption .......... |
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Very important for a good search radar. It's imperative for good radar to bring out the full potential of MPAs. Search radars are crucial in hunting diesel subs, and a strategy to hunt subs with search radars has been developed by the USN (hunt to exhaustion). I wonder if the Erieye has maritime and ground search capability. |
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Post time 10-3-2007 03:35 PM
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ELINT&COMINT mission they can hv EMB-145 RS ...wat u guys thk? 3 in 1... 
