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ATM beli VERA-E ?

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Post time 19-4-2010 03:12 PM | Show all posts
VERA-E ni mobile bai..tapi rasa2 yer ada kt Johor, utk pantau jet2 jiran selatan..
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Post time 19-4-2010 10:21 PM | Show all posts
pembelian kochulga dihalang oleh as klu tak silap aku, jgn kata kita arab saudi nak beli pun tak dapat, amerika tkt pesawat dia kena pintas , dan dikesan ngan mudah oleh musuh,
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Post time 19-4-2010 10:54 PM | Show all posts
beli aja kochu-kochu ho ta hae tuh secara "rahsia" jugok.... bukan tak biasa......
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Post time 20-4-2010 03:52 PM | Show all posts
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Post time 20-4-2010 03:57 PM | Show all posts
Reply 21# IceMallet


kene letak kat johor ke?

dgn range 400-500km aku rasa leh letak lg jauh.

letak johor obvious sgt
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Post time 20-4-2010 05:28 PM | Show all posts
Reply 25# StealthTuah


letak kt Johor, leh pantau area lg jauh...
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Post time 20-4-2010 09:33 PM | Show all posts
agaknye menatang ni aa yg pakcik2 felda sibuk cite dgn aku.. mlm2 ade trak askar masuk kebun sawit. aku ingatkan meriam.
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Post time 21-4-2010 03:03 PM | Show all posts
pasal VERA-E sudah tak rahsia lagi cik..sdh ada confirm di DSA malahan udh muncul di media mesia...

Confirmed: Czech made VERA-E is in Malaysia now


VERA-E in Malaysian Armed Forces camouflage and local terrain was shown in a publication at DSA 2010. (photo : KLSR)

Kuala Lumpur, KLS: Source at DSA 2010 confirmed that Czech VERA-E Mobile Long-range Passive Surveillance System is already in Malaysia now.

Previously, Malaysia had signed a MOU with OMNIPOL which is only exporter of VERA-E on August 7th, 2007 at Malaysian Ministry of Defense.

But, top rank officers of MINDEF denied it due to the sensitiveness of importing VERA-E system. VERA-E is reported to be able to detect stealth aircraft.

(KLSReview)
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Post time 21-4-2010 03:15 PM | Show all posts
Reply 28# advark


    Kami dah lama tau. Yang masih tak tau dekat mana deployment je
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Post time 21-4-2010 03:24 PM | Show all posts
Reply 29# StealthTuah setuju bro.... gw just share shj bro...psl deploypun biar la jd urusan org2 dimiliter mesia shj bro.. aka rahsia militer ...
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Post time 2-5-2010 11:12 AM | Show all posts
Saturday, January 9, 2010
VERA-E – WAS IT A SENSIBLE ACQUISITION?
Back in 2007 (the year when the lost of the RMAF jet engines were detected), the Malaysian army acquired a passive defence sensor from the Czech Republic at a cost that is unknown to the tax payers, supposedly on grounds that the purchase is deemed highly classified’ which in reality is the contrary. The commercial name for the equipment is VERA-E, and reports has it that a similar equipment is also manufactured in Ukraine under the commercial name of KOLCHUGA, developed by a consortium that took eight years (1993-2000) of research and development...........details of the equipment is readily available in Wikipedia.

Apparently, the decision to acquire VERA-E was decided by a few 'top notch' military officers (predominantly army) without it having to go through the usual technical evaluation, considering that the operational nature of equipment will impact upon other Electronic Support Measures (ESM) systems that are in service with the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) and the Royal Malaysia Navy (RMN). An all paid visit by some military officers to the Czech Republic was all that was necessary.

Reports have it that initially, the RMAF were coerce to accept the equipment, but the RMAF for reasons of its own, refused to have anything to do with the equipment. Since the decision to acquire have been made, army is now saddled with the responsibility to operate and maintain it; rightly or wrongly.

Wikipedia describes VERA-E briefly as follows:

'VERA-E a passive radiolocator is an electronic support measures (ESM) system the uses measurements of time difference of arrival (TDOA) of pulses at three or four sites to accurately detect and track airborne emitters'.

'The System is generally line-of-sight limited, with a nominal range of 450 km, the normal radio horizon'. (KOLCHUGA has a detection range in excess of 450 km)

'Up to 200 targets can be automatically tracked simultaneously, with an output rate adjustable from 1 to 5 seconds'.

While I cannot dispute the need for army to be equipped with ESMs in this modern day battlefield; the question that needs to be asked is whether VERA-E with a 450 km detecting range is tactically and operationally prudent to meet the battlefield ESM needs of the army. Isn't the deployment of VERA-E is best served by the RMAF whose role is to maintain surveillance of the airspace well beyond the horizon? And why does army require an ESM system which has a detection range that far exceeds the optimum range of its largest guns and missiles? Or is the army now thinking of acquiring rockets and missiles exceeding the range of 450 km? I am no battlefield strategist, but I feel VERA-E acquisition far exceeds the requirement of army.

Now, the million dollar questions that one needs to ask are as follows. First, on what basis was the acquisition made? Was it based on a professional or a business imperative? If it was the latter, then it is not too far fetch to presume that there were solicited kickbacks to sponsors of the acquisition.

Second, who actually toyed with the idea of acquiring the VERA-E from the Czech Republic and why?

Third, was the decision to acquire within the planned acquisition programme, or was it a 'spontaneous' purchase devised by someone with financial expectations?

Fourth, why was it so necessary that the acquisition be made through direct negotiation, rather than by the open tender system?

Fifth, who was the agent or middleman that was linked to the contract?

Six, since ESM deployed in the battlefield has impact on other likely ESM operated by the other sister services, was there any consultation made with the two sister services?

Lastly, is army thinking of fighting alone without the support of its two sister services; hence a 450 km passive defence sensor? Have army dumped the Joint Warfare doctrine and if so, why does the Armed Forces need the Joint Force HQ?

Lets us hope that in this particular acquisition, the name Sydney Franklin does not come into play at all, or another tailoring company being offered the contract in a platter.

Honestly, I am sick and tired of hearing contracts being awarded through some dubious process, because some 'top-notch military officers' decided so, without any professional consideration, thought and planning and worse still, without taking into account the expectant operational inter-play of the other two services. For a capital purchase of such significance to the entire the Armed Forces, it cannot be decided by 'a selected few', and worse still by just one man.

This deal certainly has the trimmings of corruption and abuse, and it must be thoroughly investigated to bring to justice all those who were a party to this outrageous unsavory act. The nation must never allow the greed of a few to compromise national defence and security.

Will Mindef be ready to open up a preliminary investigation into this acquisition?


CRUSADE AGAINST CORRUPTION
Posted by ArshadRaji at 8:00 PM
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 Author| Post time 2-5-2010 12:55 PM | Show all posts
Reply 31# Vympel77


i once ask a friend of mine who served in one of our intel. unit (not ATM) , is our armforce is capable enough to counter any outside threat , especially by our neighbours.. he said..  at the moment whenever our neighbours aircraft got to the air either a fighter or survaillance aircraft we have the capability to detect and listening to their communications betwen the aircraft or to their homebase... so now we know its VERA-E.. are we going to shoot that aircraft? definately no.. but we know they are up there and we are prepared..

VERA-E is a mobile type of survaillance equipment, its not static, and it make no different if the ground force manage it and not the airforce and moment the ground force also opertaing another type or air survaillance 3D radar TDS or something i cant remember.... so its obvious for them to handle this VERA-E equipment ...

450km is an advantage coz we dont have the money to buy awacs or air suvaillance aircraft yet .. we have to make do on what ever equipment we have, rather than not having anything at all.

ive read somewhere that during balkan war, the serb manage to shoot down US stealth bomber using this radio signal  technology...thae same technology the VERA-E is develop from.
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Post time 2-5-2010 01:31 PM | Show all posts
Reply 31# Vympel77


    bengong punya artikel, mestilah vera e tu penting, ianya adalah persiapan jangka panjang, memandangkan perolehan aew mungkin lmbt ataupun takde langsung, jd ini adalah pilihan terbaik, sentiviti yg tgg jd punca ianya tidak digembar gemburkan, bg aku ianya adalah permulaan kepada sistem pertahanan udara 3 lapis kita , sapa th mungkin kita dah ada buk 2me, yg dibeli secara diam2, jd klu ada mana 2 pihak yg cuba msk negara ini secara haram melalui udara kita dapat kesan
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Post time 2-5-2010 01:33 PM | Show all posts
Reply 31# Vympel77
ops, adakah ini org yg sama yg mengatakan apc yg hendak d

    ibeli mesti blh lalu kat area sawah, klu blh minta dia senaraikan apc generasi br yg boleh lalu kat padang sawah, memandangkan dia ni terer sgt.
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Post time 2-5-2010 07:19 PM | Show all posts
Kalau benar Vera-E boleh eavesdrop  and listen radio comm antara pilot dgn base/GCI, itu dah kira hebat dan pasti membimbangkan pihak selatan..
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Post time 2-5-2010 09:47 PM | Show all posts
Reply 35# areguard

masalahnya dorang ada aew yg baru, tp at least sama2 mengintip la. baru adil, hehe
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 Author| Post time 3-5-2010 03:40 AM | Show all posts
actually most of these military equipment the govt. bought is ok..except for the pricing la..thats why so many people making noise.. including me
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Post time 3-5-2010 05:24 PM | Show all posts
the blog writer is also one the jerung la....

remember berapi???
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Post time 3-5-2010 07:01 PM | Show all posts
Saturday, January 9, 2010
VERA-E – WAS IT A SENSIBLE ACQUISITION?
[...]
While I cannot dispute the need for army to be equipped with ESMs in this modern day battlefield; the question that needs to be asked is whether VERA-E with a 450 km detecting range is tactically and operationally prudent to meet the battlefield ESM needs of the army. Isn't the deployment of VERA-E is best served by the RMAF whose role is to maintain surveillance of the airspace well beyond the horizon? And why does army require an ESM system which has a detection range that far exceeds the optimum range of its largest guns and missiles? [...]
Vympel77 Post at 2-5-2010 11:12




Such a smart person, with well phrased sentences, but still unable to comprehend the element of suprise or the purpose of early warning.

If the gun have a range of 6 km, then we must have a tracking capability of 6 km only?

Emotions...
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Post time 4-5-2010 07:07 AM | Show all posts
Reply 38# Periuk_api1209


    kiranya nak bls dendam la ni sbb tak dpt tender jual rifel, soaln utk, berbaloikah atm beli berapi, adakah berapi sama kelas dgn rifel2 yg ada di pasaran, yg ditunjukkannya pun cuma prototype yg tak sempat siap je aku tgk
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