PAK-FA has been CANCELLED?

superhornet

So kira ble tahan jugak eik diorang nie tapi ader tak gomen kiter risik2 ngan
diorang untuk dijadikan kita punyer salah satu inventori kiter, alaaa mcm merisik
anak dara orang tu heheh ..

HangPC2

Betul ker PAK FA kene Cancel ?


http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080403/102931062.html

belacan79

Only ways to find out is wait to see physikal plaine in the air.

areguard

Memang pelik, aku masuk dalam Defence Forum dan AFM pun kata yg sama..this most probably fake article sebab other established mags tak carry the same news...

belacan79

Rusia porem saying not kanceled. But there are preblems. So..expect lot of delays. Same isue-> Time and high kos.

The Sukhoi T-50(PAK-FA) is not running on schedule. Flight tests were previously to begin this Fall but with first flight date changing all the time it is impossible to say when this fighter will fly.

With the same factory(KnAAPO) that is supposed to make the SSJ-100 passenger jet also being used to build the T-50 both projects can cause significant problems for each other. With the SSJ-100 falling behind the T-50 certainly can't accelerate its own development.

I don't know what the costs are at this point, certainly not 20 Billion USD. If comparing to the disappointing "Bulava" ICBM which is costing an average 5 Billion Roubles(over 200 Million USD) per year since about 2003 the PAK-FA may also be seeing such large costs. If anything the Bulava may be canceled(and replaced with cheaper R-29RMU3) in favor of developing better non-Nuclear weapons(such as PAK-FA).

porem Prada.ru

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robotech

Baguih la tak kener kensel. Alah, program F-22 Raptor ngan JSF-35 Lightning pun penah gak delay pesal spiralling operating costs ....

Apehal la Sukhoi tak develop joint-financing programe utk PAK-FA nih, cam multi-finaning utk JSF-35 oleh various US allies? I mean, China & India, musti nak alternative kpd ancaman F-22 & JSF-35, so PAK-FA  patutnya logical option lah .....

Sukhoi & Ruskie Govt. patutnya approach India, China .... malah Venezuela utk ambah fund bagi develop PAKFA ... baru cun.

pcboss

China sendiri dah ada 2(maybe 3) 5th gen fighter. India plak HAL kan dah memang terbabit dari awal lagi. Venezuela xde aero industry. Dengar cerita russia invite Brazil..

areguard

China dikatakan sedang giat membangunkan JXX 4th Gen fighter yg bakal menyaingi F22..

pcboss

JXX tu 4th gen fighter je ke?..

HangPC2

Originally posted by pcboss at 20-4-2008 10:52 PM
JXX tu 4th gen fighter je ke?..

Chengdu J-13牋XXJ J-13 (J-XX, JianJiji-13, F-13) J-10 A Twin Engine

Following the successful development of the J-10 fighter, Chengdu and its subordinated 611 Aircraft Design Institute began to work on an enlarged twin-engine version of the J-10 to compete with Shenyang’s J-12 project for the PLAAF’s 4th generation fighter programme. The new fighter, which was reportedly designated J-13, inherited the J-10’s canard delta design and resembles the Russian Mikoyan MiG MFI (Project 1.44) fifth-generation fighter demonstrator in many aspects. The J-13 design is less radical in terms of design and technology compared to the Shenyang J-12, and therefore may stand a better chance of becoming successful.

It was reported that Russian MAPO-MIG has been working with Chengdu since the late 1990s to develop a new generation fighter based on the J-10 design. The J-13 may be powered by two improved AL-41 turbofan engines with thrust-vectoring nozzles and possibly supersonic cruise capability too, giving a maximum take-off weight of 20t. If this is proven to be true, the J-13 will be a high-performance heavyweight fighter superior to the European EF-2000 Typhoon and French Rafale, though it may not be as capable as the F/A-22 Raptor.






































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HangPC2

Shenyang XXJ - J-14



























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HangPC2

AVIC 1 J-15

HangPC2

AVIC 1 & Chengdu Unmanned Combat Air Vehicle (UCAV)

areguard

Those JXX models memang cantik..kalau CHina dapat materialise this concept memang wa tabik spring kat Chengdu...

hyazinth79

aku rasa russia simpan sendiri kut pak fa, siapa tahu, dorang mungkin fikir yg pak fa ni blh lwn raptor , klu jual lat ngr luar terdedah la dia punya secret

HangPC2

AVIC 1 (China Aviation Industry Corporation I)

has been showing tidbits of tech in their promo videos of what future fighters (JXX) will incorporate..











Official Website

http://www.avic1.com.cn/English/EnglishIndex.asp

RainbowSix

Boleh percaya ke barangan China ni? Aku tak konfiden lah...

DarkBaron

Only way to know is to learn from expensive lessons.

malberi8

ko bukak segala peralatan eletrik kat rumah ko.. ko tengok made in mana...
jangan dok kata china made tak bagus...  jepun pon dah banyak bukak kilang kat  
China.. barangan china ni pun ada banyak grade .. oleh kerna negara kita banyak
sangat di longgok dgn barangan China yang low quality.. takleh le nak kata
semuanya tak baguss... yg paling berkualiti China Doll

hijazzains

Aku nye lecturer penah keje dgn Honda citer ada satu bac steering wheel dr China, drpd 100 hanya 2 lepas QC test. Tapi ni mungkin isolated incident tetapi this shows they're not perfect either.

Walaupun barang tentera China ni kita boleh diragui kualiti, tp China operate barangan ketenteraannya dlm bilangan byk, kalo QC teruk depa ble tukar an improve sendiri. kalo bab Malaysia setakat beli beberapa bijik barangan tentera cina, kalo ade masalah QC kite yg teruk, pasal nak improve mesti tak tau nye coz bukan kite yg design unless pihak China ni reliable dr segi sokongan dan pembekalan barang ganti.Jgn jd cam MIG yang aku baca memang hampeh bila nak provide support dan spare parts on time, tu teruk sgt tahap operasi Mig-29 RMAF.