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Author: ajakto

masalah doktor kat tempat aku

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 Author| Post time 24-3-2009 07:04 AM | Show all posts
nurse memang x bole ambik darah, haram, sape nurse yang ambik kalu jadi ape2 sape nak jawab? DR of course lepas tangan sape yang nak bertanggungjawab kalu jadi ape2?? aku dah cakap baik2 elok2 dah tapi sbb diri tu rasa macam firaun hebat sangat superior dia xnak dengar cakap keluhan masalah jururawat ni
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Post time 24-3-2009 07:59 AM | Show all posts
ajak!!! wat report or tulis surat rasmi kpd pengarah sepital atau menteri kesihatan..biar depa ambik tindakan selanjutnya...
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Post time 24-3-2009 09:38 AM | Show all posts
ada doc yg ok, ada doc yg pasan hebat, ada misi yg ok, ada misi yg pasan hebat, ada HA  yg ok, ada yg pasan hebat....pendek kata manusia kan..ada yg ok, ada yg pasan hebat..
anita, doc yg tuh pompuan ka?
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Post time 24-3-2009 09:44 AM | Show all posts
Antara benda yang menyebabkan aku agakbenci separuh doktor (tulis nama klinik lagi senang)


1. aku ingat lagiarwah anak bongsu aku masa tu selsema n ada batuk skit je... aku gi Klinik Kite, dekat dgn taman cempaka... doktor ni bagi ubat selsema,antibiotik n batuk.. lepas 4 hari makan ubat, batuk tu makin lama makin teruk... kahak makin pekat... padahal baru 4bulan, batuk mcm org tua... hari kelima hantar cam biasa ke rumah babysitter, dia tido pagi tu terus meninggal... kemungkinan sesak nafas sbb kahak..


Kesimpulan yang aku dapat, kebanyakan klinik skg ubat mmg tak upgrade... ubat 20tahun lepas still pakai lagi... bile gi klinik india, ubat dia mmg lain... bila aku persoalkan knp ubat batuk makin memekatkan kahak, senyap... soalan mcm tu pun tak bole jawab... bile tanya ada x alat penyedut kahak,bole lak jawab tak pasti... ni doktor part time la ni... keadaan klinik sendiri pun tak tau... dahla kurang ajar, patutla kat situ ada signage 'pesakit yg kurang ajar tidak akan dilayan'...mmg doktor dasar kuang ajar kt org ramai tu yg org ramai kuang ajar balik...

2. Pagi tu arwah anak aku tak bernafas..babysitter aku bawa gi Klinik Salminah Taman Cempaka Ampang.. doktor betina mangkuk tgk je anak aku tak bernafas terus taknak terima... tolak je... bila kaut untung puluh ribu tiap bulan,tau kau bermulut manis time kutip duit... sepatutnya klu dia sempat buat CPR, Insyaallah anak aku dpt selamatkan... mmg takut nak tanggungjawab la tu.... kau doa je la smoga cucu2 kau tak kena mcm anak aku...

terus dibawa ke hospital ampang...doktor kat sini mmg aku respek...siap sume ketua jabatan turun nak selamatkan anak aku... time tu aku minta lagi doktor situ try lagi selamatkan anak wpun dah sejam lebih dorg usaha ...takpela, mmg takde rezeki... aku redha... yg pasti klinik ni mmg aku takkan jejak lagi (aku mmg membesar dgn klinik ni)..

skg ni aku dah tak pegi klinik biasa...org nasihatkan gi klinik homepati.. mmg betul, doktor situpun ckp ubat2 skg kat klinik melemahkan badan budak... wpun anak sulung aku baik dari sakit dalam seminggu, tapi daya tahan lebihlama...biasanya 2,3 mggu mesti demam, takpun batuk n selsema... skgni dah jarang, 2,3 bulan sekali baru sakit..

[ Last edited by  slayerknight at 24-3-2009 09:49 ]
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Post time 24-3-2009 10:23 PM | Show all posts

Reply #24 slayerknight's post

Sedihnya & trauma sungguh baca your posts.   Semoga Allah berikan you & family kekuatan.  

Actually banyak jugak doktor yg tak pandai.  Jenis yg belajar cukup makan untuk jadi GP (macam kat klinik).   I'm surrounded by doctors in my family.  Also, I've had the misfortune of being sick and needing medical help.  So that's how I know some doctors should be avoided like a plague.

Kalau kita tanya banyak soalan and he/she is reluctant to answer - better seek medical help elsewhere.  

My case No. 3 : Sakit perut sangat-sangat.  Non-stop vomitting and tak boleh stand straight.  Doctor kat klinik cakap food poisoning.  My hubby tak percaya and took me to UH (A&E).  Doctor kat UH said could be appendix or something else in the abdomen - so kena operate and find out.  Turned out my appendix was so inflamed almost nak rupture.  Kalau dah rupture boleh kena blood poisoning......bye bye to the world.

Case No. 4 : I was pregnant 5 weeks with my first son.  Doctor kat Damai Hospital (Wangsa Maju) buat scan.  He said `empty sac, no heartbeat.'  Dia cakap must rush to do d&c.  Ni kes dia orang nak buat duit semata-mata.  Senang je cakap d&c and kaut duit dari kita.  

I called my sister kat UH and she said don't do anything.  She managed to get Prof KB Ng to do a scan on me.  Masa tu hari sabtu and office dah tutup.  But this Prof managed to get me through and did an ultrasound scan.  The moment my hubby saw my baby's heartbeat he broke down and cried.  That stupid Damai Hospital tu machine dia orang boleh hantar kat museum.  Mesin kat UH canggih and can do a better scan.  

..........ada lagi.  Nanti kalau rajin I sambung.
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Post time 24-3-2009 10:55 PM | Show all posts

Reply #21 ajakto's post

Ye ke nurse tak boleh ambik darah?

My experience, every time nak ambik darah biasa misi je yg sedut.    

Btw, I just would like to add that for every bengap doctor there are lots & lots more doctors that perform beyond their call of duty.  I just listed my bad experiences - for reference only.

My good and enriching experiences in the hands of good capable doctors will be shared on other thread.  
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Post time 24-3-2009 11:04 PM | Show all posts

Balas #24 slayerknight\ catat

feel sorry 4 u n ur family..
it's terrible when the doc didnt try at all..
btw, anak u umo bape masa 2?
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Post time 24-3-2009 11:06 PM | Show all posts

Balas #26 AnitaSabrina\ catat

u're rite kak..share byk2 ur experience..at least org len could be more aware..
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Post time 24-3-2009 11:16 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ajakto at 23-3-2009 06:45 PM
ape MO dulu x penah jd HO ker? kalu wad tu xde HO cume ade MO jer, MO x bole ambik darah ker???:@:@:@kenapa semua nak harapkan nurse jer? xder dalam undang2 pengamalperubatan nurse bole ambik darah, salah tu.lepas tu mengkulikanjururawat pulakDr semua kena ingat yang kita bertugas sebagai kumpulan bukan ade kasta. saya cuma meluahkan ape yang terbuku di hati lepas ni mesti kena gam


seriously??
what i know and what i learn is that staff nurse boleh buat and can even treat simple cases...
jururawat masyarakat je yg x boleh amik darah...

correct me if i'm wrong...
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Post time 24-3-2009 11:48 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by hypnose_s at 24-3-2009 23:16


seriously??
what i know and what i learn is that staff nurse boleh buat and can even treat simple cases...
jururawat masyarakat je yg x boleh amik darah...

correct me if i'm wrong...
...perhaps they are not trained...therefore takde apa2 legal perlindungan tuk mereka...macam best gitu...semua dr yang buat...kalau kat sini...macam aku cakap...jangan kata amik darah...set iv drip pon kita yang buat...and in the clinics...the nurses yang perform pap smears...

...and in my dept...we have 2 APNs (advanced practice nurse)...to become an apn...u have to complete your masters...and...for these nurses...they can even perform ultrasound guided abdominal tapping/drainage....
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Post time 25-3-2009 02:23 PM | Show all posts

Reply #24 slayerknight's post

aku menci tul kalo gi GP, tgh semput ke batuk2 ke...doc leh ckp your lungs clear.anak aku mcm anak ko jugak, baper buah GP pegi, seme clear,clear katanya...pigi spital, paed ckp congested nehh..nak kene neb n chest physio la..sib baik ni ok..
ada ubat2 selsema +batuk takleh dibg kan utk infant?
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Post time 25-3-2009 03:20 PM | Show all posts
hmmm...actually aku x phm sgt ape cite tuan umah...heheh...tp kalo nk cite pasal doctor yg xde sense aku pon byk kes....aku rasa baik la dr house plk....

kes 1: kat hospital besar Kuala trg..malas nk cite pjg dh ade kat thread sakit tinge tu...tp doctor kat situ blh ckp taik tinge aku keras n bg ubat titik...katanye seminggu elok la....rupe2nye aku kene meningitis...itu pon after 6 months treatment kat E&T specialist br tau....impact dia: loss of right hearing

kes 2: kat klinik UIA gombak..aku sakit gigi sbb gigi patah n tertinggal tunggul...doctor ppuan muda tu blh potong gusi aku skali...tp time tu ubat bius kuat giler so aku x rasa sakit...bila dh blk hostel.....aku sakit mcm nk meraung.....tgk2 kat cermin....dia bkn kuarkan gigi aku tu aje...tp dia potong gusi aku sampai ats...mmgla sakit giler beb...potong isi...x ke gile....

kebetulan lps tu aku blk kg....aku gi klinik gigi yg biasa famili aku pegi...doc kat situ ckp mmg teruk la ape yg doctor UIA tu buat kat aku....impact: mmg gusi aku x berada dlm bentuk proper sampai skrg....

kes 3: klinik UIA jgk...aku terjatuh longkang besar n terantuk...kene jahit kat tepi tinge...nurse kat situ boleh cuci luka aku sambil aku berdiri n dgn kasar.....ubat cuci tu blh menitik2 sambil dia mencuci tu.....
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Post time 25-3-2009 03:32 PM | Show all posts
aku selalu je jumpa GP yang tak cek apa pun, tanya sakit apa, sembang sket, terus je bagi ubat....

ari tu bawak anak aku yang cirit birit, dia takde pun nak tekan2 perut anak aku pun.... anak aku pun pandai cakap, pemalas punya doktor, takde cek apa pun....
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 Author| Post time 25-3-2009 08:09 PM | Show all posts
aku bukan aper la tapi sakit ati bila mengkulikan nurse ni sbb ape macam aku ni xde kerja lain nak melayan n menyudahkan kerja DR ni, lepas tu pulak dah tolong bukan nk terima kasih tapi marah aku lagi adelah, abis tu semua kerja nurse dah buat DR nak buat ape?? goyang kaki dapat gaji buta dah la gaji besar still malas nak buat kerja.:@:@:@:@
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Post time 26-3-2009 04:54 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by sistercrispy at 30-6-2010 16:47

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Post time 27-3-2009 01:33 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ajakto at 24-3-2009 07:04
nurse memang x bole ambik darah, haram, sape nurse yang ambik kalu jadi ape2 sape nak jawab? DR of course lepas tangan sape yang nak bertanggungjawab kalu jadi ape2?? aku dah cakap baik2 elok2 da ...


boleh la...
student nurse pun boleh.
masuk line pun xper kan....
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Post time 27-3-2009 03:56 AM | Show all posts
ala...sbb kna amikkan darah pun nak bengang ker...come on la...

kat tempat aku ni lain pulak...
nurse semua incompetent, pemalas.....semua harapkan MO....sama je HO pun...mentang2 aku baik...muda2 lagi pandai ambik kesempatan....

bayangkan aku on-call....MO A+E refer patient untuk admission...patient tu COPD very SOB

sampai2, haram satu bender pun diorang tak buat kat patient tu...

BP tak recorded, O2 sats pun tak monitor. IV access takder, bloods pun tak amik. patient tu dengan selamba sesak nafas, bibir dah biru...oxygen pun tak bagi....apa la punya pemalas orang A+E

bila aku tanya nurse A+E yang dok selamba minum kopi kat front desk....dia jawab
"that patient is already referred to you...he's not under our watch anymore...ok, we can do the bloods but you should thank us because it is a privilege to have someone else do it for you"

menggelegak ohhh bila dgr org cakap camtu...kurang ajar....dahla incompetent, padahal patient diorang asalnya....sbb dah refer kat aku, kira lepas tangan la?...takyah buat apa?....susah sgt ke even nak bg patient tu oxygen???
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 Author| Post time 27-3-2009 10:30 AM | Show all posts
Ala dekat a&e memang macam tu hospital saya pun macam tu, budak a&e kebanyakkannya MA je nursing dia cuma buat nursing care jer, sy harap la semua pihak membaiki diri masing2 cuma kalu DR tu kena ramai x berani nak tegur perbuatan kerek mereka??? kenapa perlu diwujudkan kasta ni???? dan kenapa orang ramai pandang DR ni macam DEWA????
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Post time 27-3-2009 03:35 PM | Show all posts
From my experience.....
Ada DR yg bagus...and ada SN or MA yg bagus
Ada DR yg kerek and ada SN/MA yg kerek jugak

act its all depends on person's attitude ...Whoever u r eventho u r a driver, cleaner or even pengarah hospital pun tapi kalau tak ikhlas menjalankan tugas yg diamanahkan...maka itulah yg akan menyusahkan org lain..
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Post time 27-3-2009 04:08 PM | Show all posts
sorry anita...kesian i baca cerita2 u ni..

I ingat apa yg terjadi mesti ada hikmah di sebalik nya.
Tak tau lah kenapa u selalu dpt poor medical management .

and if i were u..i dah tak confident dgn other docs...having said tht u r surrounded by doctors in  family so y dun u jes ask them to take care of u n family.No need to seek 4 other helps..Senang kan ?? boleh jimat kos jugak
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