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China plans to market the JF-17 and J-10 fighters

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Post time 3-10-2009 03:21 PM | Show all posts
1st...fn6 utk assymetric warfare. benda murah boleh tembak benda mahal, kalu tak kena pon, at least boleh kasi kecut perut jugak nak mengelat. meet the purpose utk menghuru-harakan serangan musuh sebelum sam yg lebih canggih take over.

2nd.... feter jet murah tak leh disamakan penggunaannya ngan sam murah, pasai sam tak bawak nyawa ashkar tempatan, sedangkan feter membawa at least nyawa seorang ashkar tempatan yg mengambil masa utk dilatih membawa feter. kalu feter jet murah ke hulu ke hilir tapi end up sonang dibedil feter musuh, tak der maknanya. baik pakai feter mahal sikit tapi boleh diharapkan utk membedil kembali feter musuh.
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 Author| Post time 3-10-2009 03:43 PM | Show all posts
Fighter china ni overall ok, juz Malaysia boleh customize ikut kehendak, dan bukan beli bulat2 cuba tgk Pakistan??? diaorg wat JV, ni point yg saya nak highlight kan, at least JV ngn china ni boleh mengembangkan industri aeronautic kita... cuba kita lihat PTDI (formerly known IPTN) dr indon, dia orag mula2 dpat lisenesi wat Pesawat pengangkut CN dari CASA (Spain) lama2 wat JV ngn CASA.

P/S: sampai bila Malaysia nak jadi pengguna sahaja??? assult rifle pun x mampu buat sendiri dikala negara jiran sudah berupaya membekal kan assult rifle buatan tempatan kpd tentera mereka...
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Post time 3-10-2009 03:47 PM | Show all posts
Pasang Kat Sini Ubah mana yang patut....
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 Author| Post time 3-10-2009 03:50 PM | Show all posts
Sikit info dari wikipedia:

The first 42 production aircraft currently being delivered to the Pakistan Air Force are equipped with the NRIET KLJ-7 radar, a smaller variant of the KLJ-10 radar fitted to the Chengdu J-10, developed by China's Nanjing Research Institute of Electronic Technology (NRIET). Its multiple modes allow surveillance and simultaneous engagement of multiple air, ground and sea targets, of which a total of 40 can be managed. Using the track-while-scan (TWS) mode, the radar can track up to 10 targets at beyond visual range (BVR) and engage 2 of them simultaneously with radar homing air-to-air missiles.[51] The operation range for targets with a radar cross-section (RCS) of 5 m2 is stated to be ≥105 km in look-up mode and ≥85 km in look-down mode.

It is known that a helmet-mounted sights/display (HMS/D) system will be installed on the JF-17, although the exact type is yet to be confirmed. This system assists in targeting enemy aircraft by projecting targeting information onto the pilot's visor and tracking the movements of his head/eyes. Also to be integrated is a FLIR (Forward Looking Infra-Red) pod for low-level navigation in low visibility and IRST (Infra-Red Search and Track) system for passive monitoring and targeting of enemy aircraft.

A day/night laser designator targeting pod will be integrated with the aircraft's avionics and carried externally on one of the hardpoints for guiding laser-guided munitions. An extra hardpoint may be added under the starboard air intake, opposite the cannon, for mounting such pods. No specific targeting pod has been selected, but a Chinese system such as the FILAT (Forward-looking Infra-red Laser Attack Targeting) pod may be integrated if a suitable Western system is not available. To reduce costs associated with buying large numbers of targeting pods, during strike missions the aircraft's tactical data-link will be used to transmit targeting data to other aircraft not equipped with targeting pods.


Kalo nak suit dgn Western equipment ok x???
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 Author| Post time 3-10-2009 03:51 PM | Show all posts
23# HangPC2

Itu la yg aku nak highlightkan...
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Post time 3-10-2009 07:58 PM | Show all posts
Kalau nak peroleh aset yg berkos tinggi dan memp. force multiplier effect, biarlah dari pengeluar yg proven qualitynya, technical support dan ada track recordsnya.

Rekod penggunaan oleh negara pembeli mcm Pakistan, Thai dan Bangladesh buleh dibuat pbandingan samada sesuai atau tak utk kita..mmglah murah dan blh dibeli dalam huge numbers tapi kalau selalu rosak, downtime lama pun akan menjejaskan keupayaan cegah rintang TUDM. Cthnya F18 Hornet w/pun mahal tapi service availability lebih tinggi dari MiG29 suatu masa dulu...my 2 cents la
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 Author| Post time 3-10-2009 09:47 PM | Show all posts
Kalau nak peroleh aset yg berkos tinggi dan memp. force multiplier effect, biarlah dari pengeluar yg proven qualitynya, technical support dan ada track recordsnya.

Rekod penggunaan oleh negara pemb ...
areguard Post at 3-10-2009 19:58


Ape ko ckp btl...tapi yg aku nak highlight kan ialah ape kata ko kita wat JV or customize mcm MKM kita...????
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Post time 3-10-2009 10:34 PM | Show all posts
20# lkick2113
FN-6 bukan VSHORAD laa... itu MANPADS daaa...
kita beli pon dlm limited numbers.
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Post time 3-10-2009 10:40 PM | Show all posts
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Post Last Edit by cmf_tin at 3-10-2009 22:55

22# lkick2113
kita mcm beli kelongsong pastu isi semua menda ikut spesifikasi kita? itu la yg dibuat oleh Thailand sejak dulu lagi. masalahnya kalo kelonsong tu tak bermutu, bubuh apa pon kat dalam tu, end productnya hampeh jua...

meh wa quote drp wiki pasal kapal frigate HTMS Naresuan yg merupakan kapal frigate kelas Jianghu IV yg Thailand beli...
HTMS (His Thai Majesty's Ship) Naresuan (FFG 421), hull number 621, commissioned in 1995, is a Chinese-made Type 053 frigate, designed and built by the China State Shipbuilding Corporation in Shanghai. Her sister ship, HTMS Taksin was delivered in November 1995. The ships came at 2,000 million baht each, much less than the 8,000 million baht price tag for Western-built frigates. The Royal Thai Navy, however, was dissatisfied with the quality of workmanship, and required extensive rework. Among other problems, the ships had extremely limited resistance to battle damage, virtually no damage control facilities, and only rudimentary fire-suppression systems; it also appeared that a hull breach would quickly lead to rapid flooding and loss of the ship.


mmg betul yg IPTN bertindak bijak untuk buat pesawat CN-235 secara berlesen drp CASA. tapi kalo IPTN boleh wat pesawat secara berlesen drp firma barat yg bagus buatan dan mutu rekaannya, kenapa perlu kita melangkah ke belakang dengan wat pesawat secara berlesen drp China yg mutunya sangat rendah?

dan bila masa pulak CASA ada wat JV dgn IPTN? lebih penting lagi, masih wujud ker IPTN?

P/S gak... : negara yg mampu menghasilkan senjata rekaan sendiri hanyalah Singapura. tu pon pasaran mereka tak meluas dan byk jatuh kepada non state actors... kita pon mampu hasilkan tapi secara berlesen (sama kesnya mcm IPTN ).
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 Author| Post time 3-10-2009 10:57 PM | Show all posts
29# cmf_tin

IPTN dah tukar nama jadi PTDI (PT Dirgantara, something like that la..)
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Post time 3-10-2009 11:00 PM | Show all posts
30# lkick2113
taww... tapi adakah ia masih seperti IPTN yg dahulu?
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 Author| Post time 3-10-2009 11:03 PM | Show all posts
28# cmf_tin

yup MANPADS aku silap tulis...
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Post time 3-10-2009 11:03 PM | Show all posts
30# lkick2113
taww... tapi adakah ia masih seperti IPTN yg dahulu?
cmf_tin Post at 3-10-2009 23:00


sampai order dari kita pun takleh nak fulfill...
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 Author| Post time 3-10-2009 11:05 PM | Show all posts
31# cmf_tin

yup, aku dgr dia dah expand dan nak keluarkan ASW aircraft... Nama IPTN tu ditukar masa SBY amik alih jadi presiden...
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Post time 3-10-2009 11:08 PM | Show all posts
34# lkick2113

ye la tuh ASW...
pesawat depa sendiri pon tak ter maintain sampai terhempas sana, terhempas sini...
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 Author| Post time 3-10-2009 11:13 PM | Show all posts
35# cmf_tin


Bandung, W Java (ANTARA News) - State-owned Indonesian aircraft industry PTDI is to develop a CN-235 anti-submarine airplane which would be a new variant of its CN-235 turbo-prop aircraft, PTDI president director Budi Wuraskito said.

Wuraskito said here on Saturday Indonesia already had the needed technology and qualified human resources. "They have the experience to assemble and modify aircraft of that type," he said.

He said PTDI had enough human resources to produce anti-submarine aircraft.
About 40 PTDI engineers had been involved in the production of anti-submarine airplanes in Turkey, he said.

He said they returned to Indonesia four months ago after completing their assignment in Turkey. "We already have the technology for the production of such aircraft," he said.

PTDI was now able to design and produce the CN-235 MPA, a maritime patrol aircraft which had become one of PTDI`s most salable products.

He said PTDI would soon develop the CN-235 anti-submarine plane. A number of countries had already expressed interest in purchasing PTID`s anti-submarine products. One of them was Malaysia.

The state-owned company was also producing Bolkow-105 or NBO-105 helicopters.
Bolkow-105 or NBO-105 helicopters built by PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PTDI) are considered very suitable for combat.

Not only is the sound of the aircraft relatively low, the choppers each with a capacity for five persons, are equipped with machine guns and missiles.(*)


ni sumber dia....

ko boleh tgk cni... http://defense-studies.blogspot. ... anti-submarine.html
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Post time 3-10-2009 11:19 PM | Show all posts
36# lkick2113

bukan meragui berita tuh.
cuma wa meragui samada program tuh akan jadi ker idak. Don't think so...
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Post time 3-10-2009 11:21 PM | Show all posts
beli teknologi derang,wat jv ngan univ. kita...
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Post time 3-10-2009 11:23 PM | Show all posts
kicko, apa yg kata hang nak highlight dah lama kami kat sini dah highlightkan, tapi as time goes by, kami terpaksa berpijak di bumi nyata, apa yg boleh dibuat dan didedahkan, kami terima, apa yg boleh dibuat tapi tak leh didedahkan, pon kami terima....:
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 Author| Post time 3-10-2009 11:23 PM | Show all posts
37# cmf_tin

Aku pun ragu2 ngn program diaorg, tapi juz nak tunjuk kat ko yang biznes company tu dah expand...
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