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4# zairi
mmg bagus tapi tak mampu. rm250 sebulan. |
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4# zairi
mmg bagus tapi tak mampu. rm250 sebulan.
mix_chinese Post at 26-1-2010 17:16 
Good things are never cheap..hehe.. |
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22# neomorpheus
Salam semua,
Bitreen (hopefully ejaan betul) pun salah satu pil utuk cuci darah kita....kita bole beli dia kat farmasi. pil ni di perbuat dpd daun bambu.............. pernah mkn dulu tapi sebab mkn saja2 so x nampak kesan la........ cuba la search dlm internet coz benda ni x mahal.....
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22# neomorpheus
ya betul...worth the price la kan..tp no health no life rite? Mcm mana kaya pun kita tp if kita xjaga our health, its a bit waste la kan. N kita boleh spend few thousand/hundreds for baju, hoildays etc. tp bila bab kesihatan ppl ckp "huh mahalnya". SO kita kena ubah our mind, lets put health as priority/top rank. |
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21# mix_chinese
kita myb kena spend rm260 monthly tp kita dpt save few thousand in future..hospital bills.. |
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ok ok akak kasik rekomen set cuci darah murah skit
kasik pump more oksigen dan hasilkan lebih banyak sel darah merah
sebulan RM 155 jea untuk cuci darah ..amacam bleh 
*taip sambil jeling kat zairi {:1_151:} |
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26# norbaya
hehe..nk jeling gak la.. |
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kenapa dgn jeling2 ni  nak join jeling2 jugak bleh?.. |
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jeling jgn tak jeling...nanti kalau juling sendrik tanggung |
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Bile masa plak aku duk sibuk menjual cari makan dlm nih?? Ko ke aku yg duk sibuk menjual??? Yg ko emo nak sentap tak tentu pasal ni ape hal? And lagipun, kalo ko baca peraturan forum ni betul, dil ...
neomorpheus Post at 25-1-2010 19:53
Haha. Aku dah malas nak layan pos puak2 jualan langsung nih. Depa penjual barang BUKAN pengamal ilmu perubatan mahupun saintis. Lidah memang manis berkata2. Bila soal bagi fakta2 saintifik nanti depa sentap. Antara 'hujah' yang biasa dengar: doktor takut hilang sumber pendapatan, melayu dengki melayu, sains tuh propaganda yahudi, belum cuba belum tahu, dah beribu2 testimoni sokong. pi la hantar testimoni tuh kat stastitician ka saintis. konpem kena baling masuk longkang sebab bertaraf sampah yang tak layak masuk jurnal unggul.
Takpun depa nih satgi orang tanya depa suruh pi la website depa tapun copy paste. Bila baca ada sesetengah tuh sah2 merapu, bila gelakkan nanti kata berlagak lah apalah. Dah tau dah taktik lapuk tuh. |
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31# lazuardi_senja
sorry to say, xyah la nk provoke others dgn statement u tu. Itu hak dia org, samada they all ikhlas ke tak, itupun hak dia org. Tak salah berkongsi pendapat masing2. If u think MLM health products can't beat all those medical/scientist stuff, i ada satu kes:
My uncle, dia ada heart prob, went to hospital n dpt all those medicines. Dia consume those for few years, until this year, her went for another check up, n u knw wat? They detect a kidney prob pulak. So after all those test again n again, the main reason of his kidney prob due to one of the heart medicines. The hospital advised him to stop taking one of those medicines now. So tell me, should we just rely on medical/scientist stuff ? Those drugs are suppose to cure not add more sakit .
This have nothing to do with faith, its medical mistake! |
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klinik mane yg ade offer cuci darah ni kat area kl....nk gak try... |
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32# zairi
I agree with you. It has actually been proven statistically that many excellents product are being marketed through MLM. There is nothing wrong with the true MLM concept itself, but just the way the MLMers market their products. I think kalau org tu bleh discuss secara ilmiah without emo2 and sentap2 plus bleh bagi proofs then why not? At least we dont dismiss the chance to get a solution to a problem that may not be able to be solved by doctors. And it is a fact that doctors are not experts in nutritional medicine and what they do not know may kill us for we might ignore the chance for us to get well. Also, there are a lot of supplements which are clinically proven and tested at even higher grades than pharmaceuticals. ;) |
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34# neomorpheus
200% agreed! Bravo! |
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22# neomorpheus
Salam semua,
Bitreen (hopefully ejaan betul) pun salah satu pil utuk cuci darah kita....kita bole beli dia kat farmasi. pil ni di perbuat dpd daun bambu.............. pernah mk ...
arissahana Post at 27-1-2010 08:40  |
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31# lazuardi_senja
sorry to say, xyah la nk provoke others dgn statement u tu. Itu hak dia org, samada they all ikhlas ke tak, itupun hak dia org. Tak salah berkongsi pendapat masing2. If u thi ...
zairi Post at 29-1-2010 10:30 
medical mistake is a mistake. sapa2 pun boleh buat mistake. semua ubat-ubatan di hospital telah didokumenkan ada kebarangkalian kesan-kesan sampingan dia. takder yang diclaim 100% takder kesan sampingan. tentang kesan ubat kat buah pinggang memang banyak ubat yang ada kesan kat buah pinggang. tapi bukan semua orang akan kena. pi la tgk buku2 farmasi. ubat dia akan tulis dose, indication, contraindication and side effects. takder pun yg claim this wonder drug cures all diseases.
cuba tgk sesetngah produk lain. supplement is a supplement. not medication. tuh yang sesetengah penjual langsung tak faham. bila orang cakap sentap. bila claim boleh cure SEMUA penyakit nampak sangat menipu. berkongsi pendapat tak salah tapi bukan menipu takpun cakap dengan copy paste benda yang sendiri tak paham pastu nak dakwa benda itu ini.
kalo nak sebut pasal share info 'kejayaan' supplement aku pun boleh cakap dah jumpa orang2 yang percaya sangat benda2 tuh sampai tak mau dapatkan rawatan last2 dah menderita barulah nak pergi tapi dah terlalu teruk.
kesian tgk orang2 yang tertipu beli penapis air la magnet la susu ajaib penyembuh segala penyakit la semua. ingat aku taktau kes2 tuh berlaku banyak.
kalau nak jual pun agak2 la nak claim sesuatu. tentang MLM nih i know how it works. mesti orang atas yang kaut sumer keuntungan. betul tak? |
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34# neomorpheus
ada satu benda yang dipanggil multidisciplinary team. sebab doktor tak tahu semua benda. pakar pemakanan termasuk sekali dalam team tersebut untuk kes2 yang berkaitan. pakar pemakanan pun tak tahu semua benda. in fact takder orang yang tahu semua benda. tambah2 zaman sekarang semua orang bidang masing2. lainlah zaman2 dulu ramai polymath seperti ibn sina, al-biruni yang depa tau macam2 dari agama, astronomi, kimia, perubatan dll.
what higher grade? care to enlighten me? |
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medical mistake is a mistake. sapa2 pun boleh buat mistake. semua ubat-ubatan di hospital telah didokumenkan ada kebarangkalian kesan-kesan sampingan dia. takder yang diclaim 100% takder kesan sam ...
lazuardi_senja Post at 30-1-2010 03:15 
Yup agreed with you. Medication is medication and supplement is supplement.
If you said u know how MLM works, then you would know that bukan org atas yg kaut smer keuntungan. Yg mcm tu actually pyramid scheme but berselindung di sebalik nama MLM. |
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Post time 26-1-2010 05:16 PM
