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Hornet vs Mig Exercise

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Post time 11-2-2010 05:56 PM | Show all posts
19# cmf_nando
bukan tak mau lock awai2... syarat game tuh kena verify visually dolu pesawat yg telah dilihat dlm radar adalah pesawat musuh yg dijangkakan...bila dah zoom in to each other head on dan positively ident the enemy, baru depa boleh breakoff utk dogfight. cara amerikano tu cerita menggambarkan setelah break off depa telah berjaya berada di belakang miggies terlebih dahulu sebelum lock pakai infrared sensors utk launch the sidewinder olok2. mmg expectation kita menjangkakan dengan kelebihan performance miggies akan membolehkan ia mendahului hornet dlm bidang ini, ternyata manouverability hornet dan sensornya lebih baik. aku percaya pelot2 miggies pon coba outmanouvre dan lock hornet amerikano tuh dengan sebaik mungkin terutamanya dengan kelebihan irst yg ada pada mereka. lesson learned, tak leh underestimate sangat feter2 opponent apatah lagi dengan kurang flying pelot2 kita compared to pelot2 amerikano.
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Post time 11-2-2010 06:03 PM | Show all posts
20# razhar
kemungkinan tuh ada.... tapi kelana masa pakai f5e dolu tak berpura2 tak terer pon... boleh tuan kelana jelaskan sikit... apakah betui epos kita berpura2 tak terer?
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Post time 11-2-2010 06:40 PM | Show all posts
22# windof


Never in fighter pilots blood ada perasaan macam tu. Either you have it or not... tu jer.

Maybe dia org tak cerita yang americano tu kena FOX2 dulu on initial turn after merge, kan ker Mig ada helmet mounted sight yang link to the missiles, so 90 deg aspect angle pun boleh consider kill... but then again, shouldnt lost in the engagement sebab F18 and Mig 29 ni same class , or the Mig could have more advantage..

Most of the mariner tu memang dah experience, 2000 hrs on fighter jet, thats a lot. Compare dgn kita punya... tu jer la the only reason I can think of.
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Post time 11-2-2010 07:41 PM | Show all posts
18# windof

tu laa wa kata bang win.. daripada duk tunggu nak beli Gripen lambat sgt... jual jek laa migs tu tambah cik su 18 biji lagi.. senang sket nak mainten.. ke guano demo?
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Post time 11-2-2010 08:00 PM | Show all posts
23# kelana36
thanks kelana, immediate reply indeed, that's the answer that i'm expecting from a person that has a feter jock's blood in his body. i have the same opinion as you, experience is the most valuable aspect (out of the other factors such as weaponry, aircraft performance, sensors etc...) that will determine the winner in any air combat scenario.
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Post time 11-2-2010 08:03 PM | Show all posts
24# thenone
we'll get the answer to your question this coming dsa in april... if not... wait another 2 years... if next 2 years also no news...than wait another 4 years... if no also, we have until 2025 to see 6 sqdns of mrca...if still nothin...then we can forget about the whole thing...
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Post time 12-2-2010 01:57 AM | Show all posts
24# thenone
we'll get the answer to your question this coming dsa in april... if not... wait another 2 years... if next 2 years also no news...than wait another 4 years... if no also, we have until ...
windof Post at 11-2-2010 20:03


The last one tu yg x tahan.. if still nothing, dh boleh la duk atas sejadah jer pasal dah dekat kiamat...kalo beli pon, nak wat pi belasah dajal jer masa tuh...
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Post time 12-2-2010 11:23 AM | Show all posts
22# windof


Never in fighter pilots blood ada perasaan macam tu. Either you have it or not... tu jer.

Maybe dia org tak cerita yang americano tu kena FOX2 dulu on initial turn after merge, ka ...
kelana36 Post at 11-2-2010 18:40


Jangan lupa US pun can simulate Fox 2 dengan Aim-9x when in 90 degrees.

Fifteen seconds and two high-G turns later, with the tail of the MiG directly ahead and the distinctive squeal in his headset telling him the infrared seeker in one of the Hornet’s missiles had a lock, ........Mig terminated .....in 15 seconds

"By the end of Air Warrior, the Marines had won virtually all of the air-to-air fights (with a few draws). But the Malaysians say they appreciate even the losses.".....poor Migs !!

"One of the greatest hazards for the Hornets during Air Warrior came from a virtually invisible source: FOD—foreign object debris. A close inspection of the Kuantan flightline reveals chunks of broken concrete every few feet..." Not a very encoraging comment to TUDM....better buck up !

“The Americans have better radar, better weapons, so we try to get in close,” says Major Patricia Yapp Syau Yin ...What happen to the Adder capable radar thought upgraded.......??

Not very encouraging news about TUDM Migs....
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Post time 12-2-2010 03:14 PM | Show all posts
Yg kes TUDM Miggies kena titik kow kow dengan AS Marines akibat keprimitifan teknologi tak nak pulak Muntri Zahid kecohkan2 dalam akhbar..biar public tahu keupayaan cegah rintang TUDM sekarang sekuat mana..
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Post time 12-2-2010 03:29 PM | Show all posts
mig kita primitif sgt ke bai? :@
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Post time 12-2-2010 07:53 PM | Show all posts
30# razhar
kalu tak primitif, masakan mahu dijual.... kita perlukan yg jauh lebih baik....
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Post time 12-2-2010 07:54 PM | Show all posts
26# windof

hahaha... wa x leh tahan laa ngn jawapan lu bro... kaw2 lu perli... hahaha.. ni kalo pak zahid baca mau berbulu jek.. menteri2 kabinet tu agaknya die org saje buat pekak n buat buta kayu kot pasal mig2 kite nyer performance.. ke nak kena kasi bawah naik jenjalan dlm kapal selam baru nak lulus beli feter baru agaknya...
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Post time 12-2-2010 08:37 PM | Show all posts
bkn kah fulcrum kita dah diupgrade dari segi avionic dan radar???
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Post time 12-2-2010 08:38 PM | Show all posts
bkn kah fulcrum kita dah diupgrade dari segi avionic dan radar???
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Post time 13-2-2010 07:56 AM | Show all posts
32# thenone
aku rasa pak zahid n me share the same dream regarding our military... we wanna have better equipped military and more assets, but the dream is so far, just a dream...
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Post time 13-2-2010 07:58 AM | Show all posts
34# razhar
upgrade tu dah lama...by now dah obsolete.... avionicsnya masih analog anyway...
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Post time 13-2-2010 10:29 AM | Show all posts
bkn kah fulcrum kita dah diupgrade dari segi avionic dan radar???
razhar Post at 12-2-2010 20:38


maybe dh xlarat benor nak menanggung tembolok jerung perkasa lg dah..
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Post time 13-2-2010 10:48 AM | Show all posts
sinepek pakai jerung jugak ke dlm pemodenan tentera mereka??? rasa2 tidak kot pasal depa sensitif terhadap keperluan tentera...
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Post time 20-2-2010 12:29 PM | Show all posts






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Post time 20-2-2010 02:31 PM | Show all posts
"One of the greatest hazards for the Hornets during Air Warrior came from a virtually invisible source: FOD—foreign object debris. A close inspection of the Kuantan flightline reveals chunks of broken concrete every few feet. Most of the pieces are pebble size, but even a paper clip, if sucked into an intake, can destroy the turbine blades of a Hornet’s engines, grounding the craft. Each day of Air Warrior, the Marines spent time doing “FOD sweeps,” shoulder-to-shoulder walks to scan the pavement for debris.

MiG-29s, on the other hand, have special engine intake louvers that block foreign objects, so the Malaysians don’t rank FOD removal nearly as high in priority as U.S. aviation units do"

Wa hairan yg sq F-18D di butterworth itu tak pernah melawat ke di kuantan?
Wa rasa lagi harian macam mana RMAF ini boleh kalah marines F-18D wahal ia mampu kalah RAAF F-18 dlm 90an.
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