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Post time 17-11-2008 07:01 PM | Show all posts

Reply #539 decent_sho's post

nak amik course train the trainer tu nak kene ada green book dulu kaa? Experience baper lama kene ada?
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Post time 17-11-2008 07:04 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by pressor at 17-11-2008 08:50 AM
dalam safety gak..ada 3 sebab mengapa leh belakunya accident

1- unsafe act
2- unsaft condition
3- lack of management

dan jika dibuat siasatan, DOSH akan cuba seboleh2nya utk membuktikan lack of management..dan bg dieorg tiada istilah kecuaian pekerja..kecuali..segala mende dan precaution telah management lakukan...

sekian...my 2cent...

kalo salah tolong betulkan yer...huhu


err pressor, yang ni aku rasa kita kene buka balik theory kemalangan henrich. Aku cari buku tu tak jumpa lakk sebab dalam Henrich theory of accident, hanya ada unsafe act dan unsafe condition. Lack of management sebenarnya datang dari Section 15 Duty of Employers, sebab tu DOSH tekankan pada majikan sebab ada Section 15 nih.

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Post time 17-11-2008 07:06 PM | Show all posts

Balas #539 decent_sho\ catat

tq..takde kedit ke???
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Post time 17-11-2008 07:08 PM | Show all posts

Balas #541 kambeng_masam\ catat

tak payah la bang....tp kalo nak jd trainer utk niosh maybe kena ada experience lah dlm safety...tp train the trainer kos mesti ada..
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Post time 17-11-2008 07:08 PM | Show all posts

Reply #543 pressor's post

mintak kat dexa ekk
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Post time 17-11-2008 07:08 PM | Show all posts

Reply #542 decent_sho's post

heinrich lah
Btw, a'ah Section 15 byk yg cover mcm2 kan?
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Post time 17-11-2008 07:12 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by kambeng_masam at 17-11-2008 07:01 PM
nak amik course train the trainer tu nak kene ada green book dulu kaa? Experience baper lama kene ada?


xperlu green book cuma apabila nak ngajar orang, mesti diorang tanya, "encik pengalaman SHO berapa lama? ada green book ke". Aku penah kene dulu masa awal2 keje safety.

So its better ada pengalamn dan green book kalau nak jadi trainer.
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Post time 17-11-2008 07:13 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by kambeng_masam at 17-11-2008 07:08 PM
heinrich lah
Btw, a'ah Section 15 byk yg cover mcm2 kan?


Eh silap eja hehe

thanks for the correction
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Post time 17-11-2008 07:21 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by decent_sho at 17-11-2008 19:12


xperlu green book cuma apabila nak ngajar orang, mesti diorang tanya, "encik pengalaman SHO berapa lama? ada green book ke". Aku penah kene dulu masa awal2 keje safety.

So its better ada  ...


  ye tak ye jugak hek....kalau tak kang malew jek...
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Post time 17-11-2008 07:21 PM | Show all posts
u ol cuba jawab soklan nih..pasal NADOPOD..jawab samaada perlu report kat DOH atau tak...


situasi 1 n Dexa telah berjumpa jururawat akibat sakit bahu. Beliau diberi sakit selama 3hari. Mangsa bekerja seperti biasa selpas habis skait...(perlu atau tak) kalau perlu borang apa??


situasi 2 : Pn Dexa berjumpa jururawat akibat sakit bahu yang sama dan diberi tambahan cuti 2hari (perlu atau tak?) kalau perlu borang apa??


situasi 3 : Pn Dexa berjumpa dengan Doktor..dan doktor mengesyaki dia mengalamai penyakit asbetosis..(perlu atau tak) kalau perlu borang apa??


situasi 4 : Pekerja memandu dr rumah ke tempat kerja tetapi telah terlibat kemalangan dijalan raya (perlu atau tak) kalau perlu borang apa??


situasi 5 : Ketika menuju ke kantin untuk makan tghahri, Pekerja jatuh dan patah kaki. Diberi cuti 2bulan. (pelu atau tak) kalau perlu borang apa??


situasi 6 : Seseorg marketing diarahkan oleh majikan entertain pihak JAS. tetiba dia accident.dan masuk hospital seminggu (perlu atau tak) kalau perlu borang apa???


satu lagi soalan...kalo ada 2 kemalangan/kecederaan pada satu masa...kemalangan macamana nak perlu report dulu.???



happy answering....

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Post time 17-11-2008 07:27 PM | Show all posts

Balas #549 kambeng_masam\ catat

ala..yang penting kompiden..mcm my friend..at all takde experience...cuma ada master dalam safety nih..tp leh jd trainer..but dia tak familiar ngn praktikal nya situasi..so main hentam jer bila org tnye..yelah menanyanya org dah experience giler dalam kerja..but then dia pandai cover lah....heheh...so pandai ckp ndn lebong campur loyar burok leh ah jd trainer nih,...ehehe



bak kata trainer pressor dulu

tak ssh jadi SHO nih..yang penting mulut mesti manis..ayat mesti power...pastu semua org dalam kelas wat muka blur...uhuhuh
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Post time 17-11-2008 09:04 PM | Show all posts
xde org nak jwb  ke??...huuh
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Post time 17-11-2008 10:32 PM | Show all posts
situasi 1 n Dexa telah berjumpa jururawat akibat sakit bahu. Beliau diberi sakit selama 3hari. Mangsa bekerja seperti biasa selpas habis skait...(perlu atau tak) kalau perlu borang apa???

Sakit bahu sebab ape?

situasi 2 : Pn Dexa berjumpa jururawat akibat sakit bahu yang sama dan diberi tambahan cuti 2hari (perlu atau tak?) kalau perlu borang apa??

kalau sakit bahu sebab keje JKKP6

situasi 3 : Pn Dexa berjumpa dengan Doktor..dan doktor mengesyaki dia mengalamai penyakit asbetosis..(perlu atau tak) kalau perlu borang apa??

JKKP6

situasi 4 : Pekerja memandu dr rumah ke tempat kerja tetapi telah terlibat kemalangan dijalan raya (perlu atau tak) kalau perlu borang apa??

xperlu

situasi 5 : Ketika menuju ke kantin untuk makan tghahri, Pekerja jatuh dan patah kaki. Diberi cuti 2bulan. (pelu atau tak) kalau perlu borang apa??

xperlu

situasi 6 : Seseorg marketing diarahkan oleh majikan entertain pihak JAS. tetiba dia accident.dan masuk hospital seminggu (perlu atau tak) kalau perlu borang apa???

JKKP6

satu lagi soalan...kalo ada 2 kemalangan/kecederaan pada satu masa...kemalangan macamana nak perlu report dulu.???

xpaham soalan


[ Last edited by  decent_sho at 17-11-2008 10:35 PM ]

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Post time 17-11-2008 10:42 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by kambeng_masam at 17-11-2008 07:08 PM
heinrich lah
Btw, a'ah Section 15 byk yg cover mcm2 kan?


ACT 514 OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH ACT 1994
PART IV - GENERAL DUTIES OF EMPLOYERS AND SELF-EMPLOYED PERSONS
Section 15. General duties of employers and self-employed persons to their employees.
(1) It shall be the duty of every employer and every self-employed person to ensure, so far as is practicable, the safety, health and welfare at work of all his employees.
(2) Without prejudice to the generality of subsection (1), the matters to which the duty extends include in particular-
(a) the provision and maintenance of plant and systems of work that are, so far as is practicable, safe and without risks to health;
(b) the making of arrangements for ensuring, so far as is practicable, safety and absence of risks to health in connection with the use or operation, handling, storage and transport of plant and substances;
(c) the provision of such information, instruction, training and supervision as is necessary to ensure, so far as is practicable, the safety and health at work of his employees;
(d) so far as is practicable, as regards any place of work under the control of the employer or self-employed person, the maintenance of it in a condition that is safe and without risks to health and the provision and maintenance of the means of access to and egress from it that are safe and without such risks;
(e) the provision and maintenance of a working environment for his employees that is, so far as is practicable, safe, without risks to health, and adequate as regards facilities for their welfare at work.

(3) For the purposes of subsections (1) and (2)-
(a) "employee" includes an independent contractor engaged by an employer or a self-employed person and any employee of the independent contractor; and
(b) the duties of an employer or a self-employed person under subsections (1) and (2) extend to such an independent contractor and the independent contractor's employees in relation to matters over which the employer or self-employed person-

(i) has control; or
(ii) would have had control but for any agreement between the employer or self-employed person and the independent contractor to the contrary.

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Post time 17-11-2008 11:35 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by pressor at 17-11-2008 08:01 AM
okies..sowiiii..tolong deletee....

kena marah..huhu



tak apa -
tak perlu delete pun -
cuma next time tak perlu advertise lagi
tu aje -

tak marah pun -
cuma beri peringatan aje -

okay - -
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Post time 17-11-2008 11:38 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by decent_sho at 17-11-2008 07:08 PM
mintak kat dexa ekk



ah.. dah beri pun - sebelum nampak post dia tanya tu -

great info -

keep it up guys -
and thanks  -
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Post time 17-11-2008 11:41 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by pressor at 17-11-2008 07:21 PM
u ol cuba jawab soklan nih..pasal NADOPOD..jawab samaada perlu report kat DOH atau tak...


situasi 1 n Dexa telah berjumpa jururawat akibat sakit bahu. Beliau diberi sakit selama 3hari. Man ...



lol macam2 --

saya kalau sakit bahu - mintak ada makcik misti tu urut bahu -
lega rasanya -

tapi dari segi nak report DOH etc.. tak ada pula -
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Post time 18-11-2008 12:44 AM | Show all posts

Reply #557 dexa's post

hehe...tak pasal2 Dexa jadik 'Puan' pulak.
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Post time 18-11-2008 01:01 AM | Show all posts
girl bz plak ni.....ripo nak kena hantar paling lewat 19 pagi

pastu another plak 21

girl dah setelkan thread poll tuh, buat ler apa yg patut

nanti dah free girl meroyan balik kat sini
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Post time 18-11-2008 01:35 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by kambeng_masam at 18-11-2008 12:44 AM
hehe...tak pasal2 Dexa jadik 'Puan' pulak.



harus saya deduct credit tu...  sebab tak letak - your highness -
kidding - lol -

km -- tak tidur lagi ye -

btw nanti saya update pada km -- ye -
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