Zai's Beauty Formula

uda

product2 yang dirumah, dia orang suruh beri kat dia orang and nanti boleh dapat discount untuk rawatan.Dulu I ada buat facial disini, dlam 1 tahun adalah and habis around 2-3k. Package facial dia hanya boleh bayar 2 kali sahaja i.e. masa 1st time datang and yang ke3.Yang buat mahal ialah barang-barang skin care dia, cinonet aje. i stop rawatan disana sebab takda improvement (masalah freckles) and mahal sangat skincare dia. Compare Rsus dia (rm 65 kot) dengan my Lancome (rm115), Rsus nya hanya tahan 2 weeks aje but my Lancome tahan 5 bulan. Lagi satu memang I tak suka BC dia, suka memaksa. Selalu suruh beli bedak dia and juice taming sari dia.

Tapi as review diatas, untuk rawatan2 lain, maybe ZBF ni bagus. Ada orang sesuai dengan rawatan dia. terpulanglah.

ida88

Originally posted by cik^mala at 4-8-2007 08:34 AM
tu laaa...cik mala sedih laa jugak sbb masa mula2 tu mmg rasa berkobar2 nak try product ni tp dah marketing strategi derang mcm tu nak wat cam ner.....

dah balik tu cik mala terpk...kalau k ...

cik mala chite la lagi

ida nk tau

btul2, dh la produk yg sedia ade ni lom abes

produk ZBF ni mmg mahal dan kecik sgt

rase cam x puas lak

First of all - forgive my BM. (though I don't sound dumb if I do speak it *wink!)
I just bought a full set of Zai's Beauty Formula on the 31.07.07 and even signed up for the 6x package of Royal facial package amounting to RM1100 (minus product). All in RM1800. My reason being for all that expenses = I've suffered bad complexion all my life - and tried everything - to the most cheap to most expensive treatment and products (yeah, OBAGI  and DERMAGENESIS included!) until I have no real perspective of what is cheap/waste anymore - as long as I have a healthy complexion. When I went to Zai's saloon, they gave me the impression it's the most safe product ever - for long-term's sake. So I was sold. It's been 5 days since I've used this product. I had milias growing all over my forehead - is it the so-called withdrawal symptom as they've claimed? Why is my withdrawal symptom so fast? coz I read others commented theirs appeared 4-6 weeks later. I'm just praying it'll go away very very soon. Plus, I noticed my products (White M, LU.ST and Royal Flawless) is depleting fast. Is it normal for the initial products to deplete as fast? I had the feeling I might have to replace the White M and LU.ST in 2 weeks time. How'd you guys sustain your products up to 2 months even? I'm impressed. The products are so "kecik". Reading all your posts, I'm not surprised people gave up, coz it's one of the most expensive treatment to maintain, and you got to be really "rajin". Plus not much make-up allowed eh? Yeap - thank god I don't use as much make-up. If you do have to wear full make up - don't try this product. I had to ignore my Lancome foundation (waste lagi!). The Zai's foundation is really good though - its the perfect colour for me. I'm just praying that all the money I've spend over the last 5 days is really worth it.

i'd like to give my 2 cents worth over my own experience at Zai's saloon after my Super Royal Facial.

The facialist won't let you rest and de-stress - they kept on talking but since I'm friendly I guess, layan saja la. But if I was on a bad mood the other day, I'd probably inform them politely that I want to sleep. By the way, they would definitely suggest the "bunga, batu and air bulan" addition, so u have to bring extra money besides the packaged facial costs you've already paid. Each cost 18 bucks. So be prepared to pay extra RM60 on top of the already expensive RM245 Super Royal Facial. Plus you might wanna add RM20-40 for eye and lip treatment. Other facials would cost around RM75 to RM95 each, depending on your skin type. I want to look good for Raya, so I deliberately accelerate the whole process.

The whole saloon is presentable - neat. But I don't like the horrible damaged babies and people's faces photos in their saloon staring at my face while I'm doing facial (I went to TTDI branch). It sort of freak me out everytime I open my eyes. The posters outside is enough. I think they should make their whole facial experience less de'stressing. Other than that, the facial was ok. You don't experience the usual painful extractions, but you don't feel so great either. So I'm just waiting for the after effect as they claimed within few days time.

I think it's common for sales people to push you to buy products - its their job. If you don't come fully aware that you've gotta spend, don't even step foot into the saloons. You gotta be realistic also, do you really want to fix your skin, or do you just wanna perfect your already nice complexion. Coz mine is really bad, and I don't think another AHA peel could make it any better.

Like I said, it's been a week since ZBF. At current rate, my millia and blemish has conquered over. I'm just counting months till it goes off. And hope I become one of you guys who had success with the product.

alamak silap! less d'stressing lak. Err...less stress!

Amirdaa

mmmm register semata2 nak menulis kt sini

sian cik mala...sabar yer...
x jadi nk menerai....

P/S: this info is based on my own treatment. Price range may vary according to individual treatment and product.

Actually the Super Royal facial is RM185 per session - not RM245. Tapi kalau congak tambah eye treatment (for eyebag), lip treatment (nak kasi lip soft and pinkish) and those other addition I mentioned earlier (bunga, air dan batu= RM54) total = RM279. Imagine RM279 x 4 treatment (once a week) = Rm1116 per month.

Jus tamu Sari ideally you need to buy 2 bottles a month, coz kalau u betul ikut cara makan you'll finished one bottle in 2 weeks. So RM48 x 2=RM96.

My White M and LU.ST is depleting fast. Looks like next month I gotta spend another 350 for products top up.

Let's see = RM1116 + 96 + 350 = RM1562 a month. Sanggup????

That's my own expenditure so far laa - For my own reasons - I always calculate what's wost I could spend on, coz I want to know what I've spend in detail.

But I did mentioned earlier - my skin is bad. I could've gone to dermatologist, in which I did, and spend up to RM500 per session.  So my rationale for switching to ZBF is to repair my skin. They told me when I reached normal skin level, my tretament won't be as costly. I would resort to normal facial which cost about RM75-RM95 per session. And my products would be less. Initially I would have to spend RM1000  amonth for next 3 months. But later I would probably spend less than 1k.

A'ah....qahina research pasal Zai Beauty Formula nih kat Google, tak puas baca kat zaimal.com and discovered more comments kat cari forum. First takut gak nak try tapi pasal tak puas hati dengan product lain, baik murah dan mahal, so hopefully ZBF ni my last venture laa. Kalau betul menjadi ALHAMDULILLAH tapi kalau lepas 3 bulan takde perubahan, nampak gaya kena resort kat tangan dermatologist laa. My face ni takde la teruk giler, tapi milia banyak jadi buruk gak lak complexion.

So dah 2 weeks qahina pakai, withdrawal tu memang menjadi jadi. Semalam rasa nak nangis pun ada, geram pun ada. Dah laa tak lalu tengok muka kat cermin, keluar ngan husband pun rasa huduh ajer sampai hilang mood nak happy-happy. Kesian kat husband, walaupun dia tak berapa kisah, tapi I lost my own confidence. I feel very bad for myself. Memang rasa marah kat produk pun ader, rasa marah kat diri sendiri sebab bodoh sangat try this product pun ader, tapi deep inside i pujuk gak diri- sabar, sabar, nanti elok kot kulit?? I don't know laa. Ada tak forumers lain yang long-term user of this product rasa macam tu? Share la. Sebab rasa macam nyesal pun ader, harap tawakal aje la.

farlis

penah pakai zai....tp dah stop sbb mahal. one thing, bile pegi salun diorang, i suka tgk staff kat salun tuh, promote utk hilangkan freckles/ jeragat, tp diorang pn ada freckles yg ketara. So what do u xpect?

main ribu gak le pakai produk die, tp hampeh....x serasi kut....

budget byk, try in error aje lah. seraasi ok, x serasi nasibla  my hubby smpi skrg duk bebel, habis beribu, tp xde papepun....

better use something yg dah lama established.....

Dah 2 minggu. Tengok whiteheads pun keluar banyak in the form of milia but slowly clearing. But my skin texture looking better. I'm getting more confident of the product. Tawakal.

nswin

aku baru try guna produk ZBF ni semlm.

white M - RM65.60
beauty serum - RM68.80
flawless - RM48.80
rsus - RM52.60
ageless - RM76.80
lust - RM76.80
biowhite powder - RM68.80
perfectibf powder - RM68.80
soft pressed - RM135.00
jus tamusari - RM48.80
rsus (s) - RM42.80
ekstrak PBB (2A) iaitu ekstrak bunga bakawali. kononnya utk sri wajah - RM18.00
botol spray pun dia kira sekali. 1 botol - RM3.00. so, dia bg aku 3 botol - RM9.00

sume skali aku abis RM780.60.
itu pun da lari budget. nasib baik ada bw atm kad. kalo tak, tak tau nk bayar guna apa coz terdpt sedikit unsur2 paksaan secara belapik. maksudnya, dia kata kalo nk lebih berkesan kena tambah itu dan ini. bila aku tanya ngan member aku, dia pun terkena gak sama ngan aku. harga yg dikenakan sama iaitu RM780.60. tp member aku ni takde resdung. dia cuma ada masalah kulit kering. yg peliknya mcm mane leh sama harga. sedangkan masalah kulit kering tak lah seserius mana. tp entahla, mungkin produk yg diberi lebih kurang sama.

memula, aku budget nk beli utk masalah resdung je. kalo nk diikutkan dlm internet tu set resdung (masalah sedikit) cuma RM213 utk 4 brg iaitu :-

Set A (Masalah Sedikit)
i)             Rsus
ii)             Biowhite
iii)            Flawless
iv)            Rsus (s)

bila p sana mcm2 kata nasihat yg dikeluarkan. katanya, jgn ragu2 bila guna produk ZBF ni, kene ikut seperti yg diajar supaya produk tersebut boleh tahan selama 3 bln dan berbaloi dgn duit yg dikeluarkan. katanya lg, jgn campur ngan produk lain, nnt susah nk nmpk perubahan dan mula mengatakan yg produk ZBF ni tak berkesan. yg penting sabar bila menggunakannya coz produk ni tidak menggunakan bahan chemical. so, proses utk membaik pulih kulit agak perlahan.

minta2 berkesan la produk ni. da la aku terpaksa tipu mak aku. produk tu harga RM780.60, aku kata kat mak aku RM380 aje. kalo mak aku tau mesti mengamuk sakan. beli mahal, perubahannya takde. naye je.

apa2 pun aku akan update kat sini kalo ada perubahan kat muka aku ni.

mrs_elena

mak aihh...mahalnyer

gazelle

ZBF ni gaz pernah nak try. pergi salon dia kat ampang tu. tapi cam layan tak layan je. agaknye dia tengok bukan potential customer kut. ye lah, time tu kite student lagi. nak je cakap kat dia ' ingat student takde duit ke?'.

cancel nak try sbb tengok skin SA tak lawa.

nswin, plez keep posting comment u pasal ZBF ni .

waz

byknyer brg kena pakai...
mahal2 lak tu... tak sanggup den...

waz

muakakakaka.. lawak tul pengalaman cik mala...
ayat seiring sejalan tak tahan tu...

SPACENUT

saya pengguna sejak awal tahun ni lagi, so kirala berapa kena bayar. alhamdulillah, sebelum ni pun saya takdela ada masalah kulit sangat tapi saja nak cuba. Nak kata terperangkap tu ada jugakla. Lepas buat Super royal tu memang tak boleh berpatah balikla. Yela dah bayar mahal-mahal tak kan nak rosakkan lagi muka? saya nampak jugak perubahan contohnya kulit lebih lembut, walaupun ada milia sikit-sikit, tapi itu adatla. Muka takdela berminyak sangat. saya paling suka dia punya foundation, memang tak payah pakai bedak. saya pergi kat TTDI punya, sekarang staff baru, bukan staff yang mula-mula saya pergi tu. saya suka staff baru lagi sebab diorang more understaning dari yang dulu. Sekarang nak jimat just pakai dua kali seharila. saya amik jus tamu sari ngan lust. sekarang ni ada buat hair treatment. so far saya masih berpuas hatila.

farlis

nasibla kan....sapa yg serasi, ok, x serasi nk buat camne.....

cuma, kdg2 fed up dgn staff diorang nih...

but one thing jus tamu sari dia nih ok. pernah cuba sapu kat tgn terkena minyak panas, terus tuang dgn jus tamu sari, alhamdulillah, xde parut, xde kesan lecur langsung...memula sapu pedih la sikit.....nak beli lagi jus tamu sari, ishhh malas la plak..kang bajet nk beli satu brg, kena plak beli byk brg..kopak makcik..

for those yg pakai produt n dah berabis beribu2 tuh..good luck lah yer....

nswin

betul tu. foundation dia mmg best. muka aku ni berminyak gak tp pas guna ZBF produk muka aku takla berminyak cam dulu. ms 1st time dia buat demo kat muka aku pun produk dia cepat menunjukkan perubahan. contohnya dia bleh membentuk idung yg mula asal tu bila senyum cam besar ckit lubangnya tp lepas apply produk ZBF idung ku berbeza ngan sebelah lg. bkn bermaksud lubang idung ku sebelah kecik sebelah besar tp dia buat demo sebelah muka dulu utk menunjukkan perbezaan. oleh krn itu la aku begitu teruja utk menggunakan ZBF produk ni. tp tak ku sangka semahal ini.

kalo nk diikutkan niat asal cuma nk try produk hairgone tu. pembuangan bulu roma secara permanent. hairgone RM70 dan lg satu produk aku tak ingat apa nama dia tp ianya utk hormon iaitu RM95 (harga promosi). oleh krn da lari budget maka terpaksa la ku lupakan buat sementara waktu.

ari ni merupakan ari ke 6 aku pakai produk ZBF. adala ckit perubahan. cam parut tu da mula pudar tp jerawat still kuar cam biasa tp kecik2 je. dlm 2 ke 3 biji. tu je buat ms ni.

farlis

lupa plak nk update, since dulu pernah pakai zbf ni...muka back to normal la....sib baik my face x byk problem, pakai zbf pun xde perubahan ketara...

rasanye produk2 mesia, once kita stop, die punye effect dah xde la....

perubahan yg paling ketara, bajet i la..xde la nk spend ribu2 lagi kat zbf hehehe....

[ Last edited by  farlis at 27-8-2007 12:57 PM ]

masuk 31 satu Ogos ni dah sebulan cukup qahina pakai ZBF..dan next week ialah treatment last Super Royal. Memang kena sambung pakej rawatan la - nak spend RM1110 lagi.   Saya pernah cerita milia saya keluar - menggerutu seluruh muka. Banyak kali saya rasa nak marah kat diri sendiri - apsal la pakai produk ni. Dah la duit banyak habis, rupa pun bukan lagi elok. Ada kawan tegur - apsal muka you keluar bintik-bintik? On top of that - siap tanya apsal muka engkau berbelak2, macam sunburn pun ada. Yang mana kawan ada baca pasal promo ZBF faham la - healing process. Banyak kali qahina pujuk hati - nak muka elok...nak muka elok...sampai kadang tu cerita kat staff ZBF, diaorg pesan - siapa yang bertahan dgn produk ni biasanya org yang sabar, tak putus asa dan berilmu. Dia sedar pasal kerosakan bahan kimia. Plus, healing process ni can take 6-1 year process. So I'm holding on to that. And that helps me continue with this product. Nak kata buruk benar rupa, takda la macam sampai jijik nak tengok cermin. Jerawat dan milia yang keluar bukannya besar2, merah bertompok atau bernanah2. Bila sapu LUST ngan White M tu 2 hari Insya Allah hilang. Cuma memang milia nak hilang sangat sangat lambat.Dok tempek full set nak kasi cepat licin. Nak kata produk ni boleh buat cerah sangat, memang jangan mimpi la. Rasanya setakat bersih kulit dan kasi licin. But for me I guess long term that's enough. Dulu I tergila-gila nak putihkan kulit, then I realise the damage I've done. I'm still continuing. Towards nak Raya ni I tak nak tukar produk - dok survive on high hopes this ZBF works.