Kerjaya Sebagai Doktor

terima kasih banyak2
memang doktor2 ni tahap stress die tinggi ek.

betul cakap hang tu

rebas

Originally posted by cengkerang at 7-5-2007 03:37 AM
Assalamualaikum

Hah..topik yg amat la di cari2. Menarik views yg ada dlm ni. I'm in need of advice, pasal nak pursue life dlm bidang medical ni la, but my case bukan case lepas spm/matrik nak  ...

ws ..
dear cengkerang..

i ada few friends yang sangkut kat UK dulu..some failed and some due to health problems.. ada yang tukar kerjaya dan ada yang sambung balik from 0..kat malaysia..sebab sistem pelajaran yg berbeza so most medical schools (IPTAs) di malaysia kena start dari 0 walaupun you stuck at 4/5th year..
If i were in yr shoes.. yg.. pentingkan anak and family .. why not try other medical related courses eg physio/ audio/speech/therapy..pharmacy.. (kat malaysia kursus2 ni pun 4 tahun...and tak as stressful as medicine...and boleh further sampai a pHd.. )..

cengkerang

Originally posted by zacharygibson at 7-5-2007 07:40 AM


Hai cengkerang..

hmm.. :hmm:  kenapa offer dia either clinical atau 1st year?? sambung kat 3rd atau 4th year tak boleh ke?

Aku rasa, kalau kau nak masuk balik 1st year medic dalam ...

silap, initially diorg nak offer join first batch diorg, masa tu the first batch was going 2nd sem of 2nd yr. tapi sebab time and i've been 'on vacation' more than 2 yrs, diorg decide bagi place utk join fresh. sebab syllybus lain pun ye jugak..

enormous gigantic commitment tu la tak tau boleh tak nak bagi. minat mmg masih ada. family support, well, selagi belum lalui belum tau sejauh mana they can be supportive, for now seme boleh kata akan fully support, tapi saying is easier than doing most of the time kan. kalau tak memikirkan the stakes of marriage, childcare..tak pikir banyak dah. hubby bukan line medical, none of his close friends or family dlm medical line, eventhough dia beriya nak aku sambung balik, i have doubts that he will be able to emotionally be supportive bila dah tiba masa2 perit tu nanti..for now to him going back to study sama je la mcm org lain yg pursue msc, mba or 2nd degree for that matter..hmm..kalau tak sambung kang, tu future tu..yela, tak tau jodoh sampai bila, kalau ada career anak2 diri sendiri terjamin..

satu hal yg risau ni sebab aku tak familiar dgn medical course kat mesia ni, sampai takde life la org selalu potray, kalau kat uk dulu time sibuk masa nak exam je, which is one or twice a yr, masa lain ok je..social life ttp ada, bdk engineering lagi bz dr bdak medic rasanya..tiap2 tahun boleh je balik mesia lama2..hehe, except final yr la kena struggle sket. prho pun on call one in 3 mostly, mostly by the time dah prho tu byk pun yg dah kawen. hmm, susah betul ke medic kat mesia ni? possible ke nak cope dlm keadaan dah ada tanggungjawab lain rasa2nya? aku takde close friends yg buat medic locally, so takde tpt nak refer..peers skrg ni seme tgh PRHO kat uk, sama la clueless pasal mesian system, seniors pun sama la mostly keje sana..

cengkerang

Originally posted by rebas at 7-5-2007 04:16 PM


ws ..
dear cengkerang..

i ada few friends yang sangkut kat UK dulu..some failed and some due to health problems.. ada yang tukar kerjaya dan ada yang sambung balik from 0..kat malaysia.. ...

diorg yg start balik from 0 tu habis tak? lucky them IPTA bagi masuk,  bagai nak rak mintak satu pun taknak layan, tak mintak lompat yr pun, humbly mintak masuk 1st yr balik..tak layan pun. kalau ada cable lain cite la kut..yg dpt offer ni pun ipts, newly set up med school kat cyberjaya..

lepas penat mintak transfer tak dpt tu mmg igt nak tukar line dah, tapi bila dah dpt offer ni consider balik la. nak tukar line tu, masalahnya during my ordeal dulu, JPA tak forgiving sgt..sponsorship kena bayar balik in full unless if i can somehow grad as a dr jugak baru diorg convert balik sponsorship dulu tu balik mcm asal...serve govt for 10 yrs. dah 3 tahun lebih kat sana, suku juta jugak kalau kena pay in full tu..kalau boleh jadi irfan khairi ok la..hehe...

zacharygibson

kalau u minat, then u pikirla dalam2.. kalau tetap nak, then bulatkan hati dan teruskan..

u pernah buat pre-med sampai 4th year, so i rasa u takkan banyak masalah buat pre-med kat sini la kot..

tapi housemanship kat sini memang tough... especially kalau u dapat hospital2 yang besar, like Klang or KL GH.

Yang i tau, kalau kat klang.. housemanship punya on-call 2-3 times a week. Kalau department yang betul2 sibuk eg. Orthopaedic, Surgery, atau emergency, then biasanya on-call every other day... atau back to back..

On call bermakna u masuk kerja 8am today and habis keje 5pm tomorrow...

cengkerang

woohoo..hari2 on-call :. if i do go down this road, kena put aside benda tu dulu, kalau dpt abiskan then baru deal with that one (please please by then labour laws concerning drs dah tukar drastically..hehe)

thanks again for the advice..highly appreciated :tq:

mba

sib baik aku tak jadi doctor......

remizati

aku mati2 ingat bila diorg balik subuh nie pi clubbing..
rupenyer on called..
sebenornye aku ada berjiran dgn doc..
mula masa2 pindah aku mati2 inagat doc tu pi clubbing..
tabik spring ngan semua doktor hkl dan spital lain..
tp kalau doc klinik kesihatan rasanya senang kot..
tp tak smua klinik kesihatan ada doktor..
kene pinjam doc dr klinik kesihatan bersebelahan..
malaysia mmg kurang doc kan...

RedDevils

CENGKERANG;

-apa sebenarnya, sebenarnya yg kau nak dlm life kau????
-nak bergelar doktor sebab mmg gila gila punya minat, tak kisah lah kalau tak kaya or takde social life?
-nak bergelar doktor sebab kau tak mau bayar hutang JPA?
-nak bergelar doktor sebab nak puaskan hati org lain?
-tak kisah la keje apa pun, asalkan punya masa yg byk utk family.?
-kisah dgn status ekonomi, nak cepat kaya...?
-tak kisah dgn status ekonomii, sebab kau mmg genetically kaya  ?
-tak kisah nak berenggang dgn anak -laki sebab komitmen yg tinggi as a student, then as a doc, HERE IN
MALAYSIA ?

jawab dgn sejujur jujurnya...then perhaps aku bleh bagi advise yg spesifik utk kau...kalau kau nak terima lah...

rebas

Originally posted by cengkerang at 8-5-2007 05:26 PM


diorg yg start balik from 0 tu habis tak? lucky them IPTA bagi masuk,  bagai nak rak mintak satu pun taknak layan, tak mintak lompat yr pun, humbly mintak masuk 1st yr balik..tak layan pun. k ...

i rasa tak susah nak minta masuk IPTA sbb my friendS (more than 1) dapat Unimas.. tapi umur masa apply tu tak de la 30 an.. tapi diorg kene go thru special interview..

why did you quit last time health problem ke family probs? some IPTAs may be reluctant nak terima kalau ada medical condition yg "severe" boleh affect judgement.. my friends yg diterima masuk unimas tu.. sangkut exam tapi now ok..mungkin cuaca UK tak sesuai .. cuaca malaysia lagi baik..

rebas

Originally posted by remizati at 9-5-2007 10:30 AM
malaysia mmg kurang doc kan... ...

esp pahang sabah and sarawak...

keep88

Hi, I am new here.....

i am considering to be a doc, one question:

susah betul ker exam dlm 4-5 tahun tu?

rebas

exam.. mmg..susah..
ada minat dan rajin usaha.. insyaAllah..

bagus dik.. jadi doktor ni..  lagi ramai lagi bagus..

keep88

susah betul ker in the first year?

I am just wondering cause my medicine course will probably start in september and yet I haven;t learn anything since last october.... takut blur.......

do you recommend me to read anything or just relax and enjoy the next few months?

[ Last edited by  keep88 at 9-5-2007 11:44 AM ]

cengkerang

hehe..manade umur 30-an, going 26 this yr..start keje nanti 30-an. Apply jugak Unimas, dlm seme2 IPTA mintak masa tu, Unimas je la yg take time consider, tapi bila dah tiba tarikh intake to diorg call apologize tak dpt nak bagi masuk sebab takde space sebab nak cater mainstream students, regulations yg govt set dah strict katanya.  Agaknye when ur friends dpt masuk tu baru lagi med course kat situ so tak strict sgt kut..diorg still kat sana ke dah grad?

Family problem, kalau bkn sbb family tak amik yr out masa tu, suka dok sana..weather ok, financial je la kekadang stuck but manageable..dulu plan nak stay keje sana sampai at least habis mrcp part II, tapi ye la, god has other plans for me..

I know someone yg buat medic kat unimas, my age, x lepas 3rd yr 2x..tukar course amik engineering kat uni lain..tu buat risau nak amik medic sini..

thanks very much for the encouragement

RedDevils

Originally posted by keep88 at 9-5-2007 11:40 AM
susah betul ker in the first year?

I am just wondering cause my medicine course will probably start in september and yet I haven;t learn anything since last october.... takut blur.......

d ...

ENJOY, ENJOY AND ENJOY YOUR TIME.....before u embark yourself in med school....

But dulu aku 1st-3rd year, enjoy, enjoy & enjoy jugak....

masuk clinical years lah kena serious...hehehhe....

don't study hard, study smart....otherwise, kau jadik ulat buku, kau jadik mat/minah skema...no social life, silap2 awek pun tarak
brush up clinical skill....
kalau hafal murtagh depan belakang, kalau hafal nelson, tapi clinical skill hampas....tak out spoken, takut nak bring up things/ask question-----u will look stupid!...hehehe..sound like familiar pulak ayat nih...:hmm:

rebas

Originally posted by keep88 at 9-5-2007 11:40 AM
susah betul ker in the first year?

I am just wondering cause my medicine course will probably start in september and yet I haven;t learn anything since last october.... takut blur.......

d ...

my advise is.. relax je.. skg..sbb nanti tak de chance nak relax..

bila dah start meds school.. my tips..
masa lectures must concentrate betul2.. tak dapat semua tak pe..asalkan overview..mesti dapat..(at least you know what you dont know..) when i did my degree kat UK dulu.. mmg tak sempat nak revise before exams.. so.. most of the time, i rely on memory masa dalam lecture hall.. itu je..

all the best!

keep88

thank you for the advices :clap:

rebas

mahal ke ipts kat cyberjaya tu?..
kena self sponsored ke?

26 is ok.. kalau nak buat medic.. i rasa go ahead even kalau nak start from 0.. tak rugi.. keje mmg akan ada..and malaysia mmg in need of docs.. i rasa you surely tak de much prob dgn study .. sbb dah sampai yr 4 dah.. cuma.. must make sure family supportive.....