Architecture

Camar

Originally posted by ninoZ at 2003-8-6 09:13 PM:
encik camar.
saya terangkan secara ringkas eh..

sesebuah rumah Melayu itu terbina hasil dari gabungan pelbagai  ilmu kemahiran n kerja penukang..
pawang- menentukan geomancy sesebuah rumah eg. ...

thanks ninoZ. Informatif.
ngan aku pun nak berencik2.... macam dalam seminar plak. hehehe

Rasanya rumah2 melayu ni boleh kekal ke? Orang sekarang bila buat rumah buat rumah batu. Rumah kayu macam dah jadi suatu exception plak. Jarang sangat jumpa rumah baru diperbuat daripada kayu, atau yang mengekalkan ciri-ciri lama.

ur opinion?

ninoZ

Originally posted by Camar at 2003-8-6 21:39:
thanks ninoZ. Informatif.
ngan aku pun nak berencik2.... macam dalam seminar plak. hehehe

Rasanya rumah2 melayu ni boleh kekal ke? Orang sekarang bila buat rumah buat rumah batu. Rumah kayu mac ...

sebab ghumah kayu lebih costly dari rumah batu
plus org amik kira faktor security..
but if i were to build a house of my own..definately akan buat rumah yg majoritynyer kayu
penah tgk aryani resort tak?
beshhhhhhhhh!

Camar

Originally posted by ninoZ at 2003-8-6 09:46 PM:
sebab ghumah kayu lebih costly dari rumah batu
plus org amik kira faktor security..
but if i were to build a house of my own..definately akan buat rumah yg majoritynyer kayu
penah tgk aryani  ...

ya... satu hari nanti kita hanya boleh rasa rumah kayu kat resort.  

Rumah atap rumbia sekarang ni ada lagi tak? Macam tak pernah nampak.

Kat kampung i tu i ada makcik yang rumah dapur dia atap rumbia. Bila datang beraya mesti masuk dan duduk kat rumah dapur dia. Letak pulak celah2 pokok getah. Dingin dia tak bleh lawan.

ninoZ

Originally posted by Camar at 2003-8-6 22:26:
ya... satu hari nanti kita hanya boleh rasa rumah kayu kat resort.  

Rumah atap rumbia sekarang ni ada lagi tak? Macam tak pernah nampak.

Kat kampung i tu i ada makcik yang rumah dapur dia at ...

ada lagi laaa encik camar..
kat kg bykkk
masa kecik2 dulu penah belajo anyam attap rumbia tau..
ade jiran sekampung buat atap utk jualan
interesting experience

infact..kan sekarang trend buat wakaf/gazebo kat halaman rumah
why not guna atap rumbia aje..sure menarik kan?

Camar

Originally posted by ninoZ at 2003-8-6 11:03 PM:
ada lagi laaa encik camar..
kat kg bykkk
masa kecik2 dulu penah belajo anyam attap rumbia tau..
ade jiran sekampung buat atap utk jualan
interesting experience

infact..kan sekarang trend ...

yes... ingat juga lama dulu menganyam atap rumbia.
Bila nak tetas daun kena ikut masa, hari dan cuaca yang sesuai. Jahit guna bemban, batang guna buluh. Boleh tahan lima enam tahun atau lebih.

Tapi kalau nak guna atap rumbia untuk wakaf macam kurang sesuailah... terutama kalau kurang maintenance. Nampak buruk. Kalau tepi pantai memang nampak cantik, but not laman rumah. Pada sayalah.

ninoZ

tak cantik bila tak kene dgn design wakafnyer..
kene aa trim edges dia nicely..baru lawo
plus leh taruk latticework on top of it..

Malena

waaaaaaaahhh:bg:
aku suka tgk bangunan besar2..
especially bangunan2 lama yg ancient tuh...
cam cathedral & mosque..

kalau masjid ni..kat istanbul byk yg lawa2...tepi laut lak tuh..cam masjid biru...uuuuhhh heaven :bg:
masjid nabawi pong amazing..leh bukak tutup dia nye kubah tu...
ni punye design kat dlm...perrrggghhhhh...amazing!!!! :eek:
masjid kat baitulmaqdis tu pong lawa..yg kubah dia warna mas tuh..
dlm masjid tu ada batu besar tmpt buraq landing..
rasa insaf lak tgk bende2 camni..

aaarrgghhh..ni yg rasa cam nak gi melancong ni..
tapi takdak duit huhuhuhhu :cry: :cry:

korang leh tolong pastekan gambar2 masjid tak?
bless u ;)

ninoZ

Originally posted by Malena at 2003-8-7 23:51:
waaaaaaaahhh:bg:
aku suka tgk bangunan besar2..
especially bangunan2 lama yg ancient tuh...
cam cathedral & mosque..

kalau masjid ni..kat istanbul byk yg lawa2...tepi laut lak tuh..cam masjid ...

blehhhh...tunggguuu
ingat nak buat review pasal hagia sophia..tapi kat thread encik Bhai - places of worship

Originally posted by Camar at 6-8-2003 21:39:
thanks ninoZ. Informatif.
ngan aku pun nak berencik2.... macam dalam seminar plak. hehehe

Rasanya rumah2 melayu ni boleh kekal ke? Orang sekarang bila buat rumah buat rumah batu. Rumah kayu mac ...

nenek aku kat kampung renovate rumah interior smua moden cam de design of tiles,flooring etc tapi exterior masih traditional

ninoZ

Originally posted by archilless at 2003-8-28 15:18:
arkitek kat msia ni aku suka kalo gdp yg design.. taste sama la agaknya dgn boss diorg..

arkitek msia yg femes kat dunia ni sapa lagi kalo bukan dr kenneth yeang?.. femes dgn idea bioclimatic..  ...

bioclimatic?
hehehehe..
bio or non bio...me believe dat every design wajibbbb respon to climatic despite wutever style the architect choose.. baru aa serve the purpose of the building as an architectural piece [architecture: art+sceince]
so akceli.. takyah claim aa one design is bio climatic or one is not..
personal opinion aaa..

mesjid lak..
me rasa rata rata malaysian nyer preconceived idea... a mesjid must have dome/kubah..takde kubah.. bukan mesjid...sebab tu kalau design mesjid jerrr...mesti nak kubah [architect kan byk follow clientnyer demand...tho it shud be the other way around..hehehehe]
personally.. me suka the kinda mesjid cam masjid kg laut tu.. rather than mesjid berkubah..mesjid2 lama kat melaka cth mesjid tengkera pun  best gak..

ninoZ

just incase 4 those who r not familiar with this mosque..

Masjid Kampung Laut (Kampung Laut Mosque)



Many centuries ago, missionaries sailed the width and length of the Malay Archipelago to disseminate words of Islam to the inhabitants of these lands. They plied far and wide, with tremendous energy and devotion to fulfil their call of duty.

One day, a group of missionaries came by the east coast of Peninsular Malaysia on the way from Pattani(Southern Thailand) to Java(in Indonesia) or vice versa as there are many differing point of references. The seafarers' boat unfortunately sprung a leak along the way. As the boat floundered helplessly, the missionaries made a vow that if they were to survive such a catastrophe and were safely brought to shore, they would immediately build a mosque to commemorate the miraculous journey. Indeed their prayers were answered and the missionaries safely landed at Kampung Laut (Sea Village).

Built in the 1730's, the mosque is representative of architectural styles that reflect most of the characteristics of traditional local architecture. The architectural styles like those of local houses and buildings of that era are influenced by a number of factors such as the climatic conditions, the availability of building materials, the ethnic background and local craftsmanship. For the Kampung Laut mosque, only the most skilled local wood carvers and builders were commissioned to build the structure. As it was built close to the Kelantan riverbank, the mosque was raised on stilts, about 1m(3feet) above ground level to avoid floods that inundate the area during monsoon seasons.

Four main columns support the upper most roof which is separated from the lower double-tiered roofs by timber louvres. This gap provides natural cross ventilation in the central area and also admits light. The roof is shaped in 3 tiers and very much resembles the Agung mosque in Demak, Northern Java, Indonesia circa 1479. It is said that the square plan of the Kampung Laut mosque was probably modelled after the Agung Mosque. Since there is almost a unified agreement that there are marked similarities between the two mosques, then the Javanese influence on the architectural style of masjid kampung laut is evident in the tiered roofs. The shape of the roof resembles a peak or mount which in the Hindu religion is regarded as the sacred abode of the Dewa. In Malay mythology, the mounts are where the ancestors' of kings were believed to have come from.

In the early centuries before the arrival of Islam, the dominant religion was Hindu. Hence the structure of the roof is similar also to the early Hindu and Buddhist chandi.

The original mosque was not how we see it today. It was a basic structure with only four main pillars supporting the 3-tiered roof. The roof itself was woven with palm fronds and the entire mosque measured only 400 square feet in total. In the late 19th century (1859-1900), the mosque became an important religious centre and scholars came from throughout the region to Kampung Laut. During this era, the mosque was expanded to include an additional prayer area along the qiblat wall. A minaret, an attic and a verandah were further added. 20 columns were raised to support the additions.

Building materials were collected locally and every piece was painstakingly handcrafted to perfection. Like piecing a 'Lego' collection together, the cengal timber flooring and panelling were joined together using the technique of 'Tebuk-Pasak' or mortise and tenon. The entire structure of the mosque was put together without hammering a single nail. Roof tiles replaced palm fronds. Called 'genting' or hand-made clay tiles, each piece was carefully fitted to prevent leaking and was resilient to strong winds. Although alterations and improvements were made to the structure , strangely, the keepers of the mosques had overlooked the weak foundations of the mosque. Built by the riverbank, the constant flash floods such as the great flood of 1926 also known as 'Bah Air Merah' weakened the soil foundations but nothing was done until much later when another great flood in 1966 washed away a part of the mosque.

Realising the dangers posed by the location of the mosque, the Malaysian History Society proposed that the mosque should be moved to a safer area, away from the disintegrating riverbank. In 1968, Masjid Kampung Laut was dismantled and reassembelled at the grounds of the School of Islamic Studies at Nilam Puri. Then the task was set out to repair the damaged part of the mosque.

In 1988-1989, the mosque went through another change where modern amentities such as electricity, toilets and water were added on. A sitting area and a tower were further added. With the additions, the total built up area is now 74ft by 71ft. With additional funds for refurbishing, woodcarvings were added to the pillars and walls.

Masjid Kampung Laut is still an active religious centre and the mosque caters to the community residing at Nilam Puri. It is regarded as one of the most important living museums in Peninsular Malaysia.

kalau nak tengok bangunan pertama yang membawa perubahan dlm architecture di Malaysia, tengoklah mesin niaga kat subang tu. Mamat yg design tu selebet tapi penuh seni. Mamat tu dulu study kat France.

nix79

menara mesiniaga, subang..... ken yeang

Camar

Originally posted by nix79 at 1-9-2003 12:21 AM:
menara mesiniaga, subang..... ken yeang

saya tak tahulah sama ada enterpretation arkitek bangunan ini terhadap peranan climate dalam designnya berjaya dan boleh diterima. Tetapi pada saya kesannya pada design agak negatif.

Saya ingat satu cerita mengenai bangunan ini. Seorang staff mesiniaga tak pernah ditanya oleh sesiapa tentang rekabentuk bangunan itu. Then satu hari seorang kawan point blank kata kat dia yg kawan tu tak fikir bangunan itu cantik dan menarik. Staff tu cepat2 kata...`thats what I want to say all this while. Tapi tak tahu pada sapa nak cakap.....'

nix79

Originally posted by Camar at 1-9-2003 12:42 AM:
saya tak tahulah sama ada enterpretation arkitek bangunan ini terhadap peranan climate dalam designnya berjaya dan boleh diterima. Tetapi pada saya kesannya pada design agak negatif.

Saya ingat  ...

yupp.....  I think I've heard of this,
but can't remember exactly where ...

my lecturer ..pernah memberitahu ttg komen staff2 yg bekerja didalam bangunan itu tidak berapa suka dgn idea ken yeang... saya pun tak pernah masuk ke dalam bangunan itu.. so cannot comment further at this time. ..

but personally i like the way he explore his ideas towards handling the ecological design of such buildings



Bruce Goff statement: "We desire to enter into and inhabit any great
and original work of art - to possess it and allow it possess us, be
it literature, painting, music or architecture. This is why
architecture is such a powerful art: we can inhabit it physically as
well as spiritually in time and space. Someday perhaps it will, like
music, become less earth-bound, more flexible and athletic, more ever-
changing and free."

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how abt landscape architecture?
anyone ada info? my x-classmate's brother is thinking becoming landscape architect

ninoZ

Originally posted by BHAI-SUCI at 2003-12-22 22:40:
how abt landscape architecture?
anyone ada info? my x-classmate's brother is thinking becoming landscape architect

landscape architect lagi senang buat duit dari arkitek binaan..
keje dorang  tho quite tough..still not as complicated as arkitek binaan..
if ko graduate as arkitek.. pastu further lak dlm bidang lanscape..mmg byk advantage aaaaa..nak switch ke bidang landscape senang je sbb basic designing dah kuat

ye ke lagi senang nk buat duit? senang as in more opportunities of work atau monetary reward is larger amount?