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[SBS]~ Six Flying Dragons~ Yoo Ah In, Shin Se Kyung, Kim Myung Min (Part 2)
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ismaha replied at 27-11-2015 06:58 PM
Elok la book SB. Nnt boley la YH g dekt BJ
San esok sabtu
Ha ha nk bg YH kat BJ
Bihun? Esok baru nk cari kkkk |
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ok ler cik San....nti ayu usahakan yer..
ohh minat SB ek...
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wokay2....amik ler SB...
rasanya mcm tkde kot...
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aah ler makdik...BW pun sebenarnya dia sendiri
tk berapa yakin..sbb bukan mudah nk tarik perhatian
ayah mertua dia tu.....nasib baik ler dorang tu tk
buka kotak tu sblm sign persetujuan..klu tk mmg
naya ler....
mmg BW nekad jer bg tau rahsia besar family dia
tu ler..ntah apa le rahsia tu kan...
yg pasti....LM takkan bocorkan rahsia...
HIB sure terkejut besar...dan dia takkan berdiam diri
sbb dia tk dpt nk jatuhkan Gen Lee
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mampu yer...tp dlm mimpi kan...
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The historical background to help understand Ep. 15~16Yi Seong-Gye : What’s your name?
Tang-Sae : My name is Tang-Sae.
Yi Ji-Ran : With such scary swordsmanship, a name like Tang-Sae? That’s not quite right. Brother, give him a grand name that is suitable.
Yi Seong-Gye : Yes, I am going to consider you my son from now on. Why don’t you use “Bang (芳)“ with the meaning of flower? Since your name is Tang-Sae, use the letter "Ji (地)” with the meaning of Tang (land), call yourself Yi Bang-Ji (李芳地) from now on.
* Aristocratic names In the history of Korea, the noble class had been literate while most commoners had been illiterate until the Hangul alphabets were created by King Sejong the Great who was Yi Bang-Won and Lady Min’s son. Therefore, the names of noble class were in Chinese Characters, whereas the names of lower class were mostly in native Korean. For the social reason, native Korean names had been regarded as uneducated, vulgar and crude in the past. For example, Tang-Sae’s name consists of pure native Korean words. Tang(땅) means "earth or land”, and Sae (새 or 쇠) is a common suffix for lower class male. Therefore, I guess, the TV writers’ intention for his name is “The son of the soil”, but it also sounds like the name of an ignorant rustic peasant guy. That’s why people around him was laughing at his name. Aristocratic names have a rule called “Dolimja (돌림자)” in Korean : The common syllable in the names of your generation in your family. The Dolimja rule mostly applied to noble class male. Commoners, slaves, and women didn’t have such a rule in the past. For example, in Jeonju Yi clan, General Yi Seong-Gye’s generation (his brothers, his male cousins, etc) shared the same syllable “Gye (桂)” in their names (Yi Won-Gye, Yi Cheon-Gye, Yi Seong-Gye). Likewise, their sons’ generation shared “Bang (芳)” in their names (Yi Bang-Woo, Yi Bang-Gwa, Yi Bang-Gan, Yi Bang-Won, and…….. Yi Bang-Ji). The order of Dolimja for each generation is predetermined by the clan’s own rule. Therefore, you can recognize someone in your clan belongs to which generation only by his name. In most cases, daughters didn’t share the dolimja. Actually, women’s names were rarely recorded in the history. Even the names of queens and princesses were not recorded. They were known only as their family name or their official titles. For example, Yi Bang-Won’s wife Queen Wongyeong (원경왕후, 元敬王后) is known as Lady Min (閔氏), and nobody knows her full name. The TV writers call her Da-Gyung, but it’s not historically accurate.
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* Yi Ji-Ran (이지란, 李之蘭, 1331~1402) When Yi Seong-Gye gave Tang-Sae a new suitable name, it reminded me of the historical fact that General Yi Seong-Gye also renamed his sworn brother to Yi Ji-Ran. Originally, Yi Ji-Ran was a warrior from Jurchen tribe, and his name wasKurun Turan Timur (쿠룬투란티무르, 古倫豆蘭帖木兒), called Tung Turan (퉁두란, 佟豆蘭) in short. When they became sworn brothers, Yi Seong-Gye gave him the new Korean name Yi Ji-Ran, to share his sir name Yi (李). Anyways, a descendent of Yi Ji-Ran’s cousin from the same Jurchen tribe is the famous Nurhaci (1559~1626), the founder of Ching Dynasty of China.
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* Jo Ban’s rebellion (1388) In ep. 15~16, Hong In-Bang framed Jo Ban of Haedong Gapjok for treason. It looks like a poor treason plot with a lot of loopholes, but it is almost historically true. Jo Ban (조반, 趙胖, 1341~1401) is one of the Haedong Gapjok who told Lady Min’s father (Min Je) the news about Yi In-Gyem’s downfall in the cabbage field. (ep. 13) In the history, he was a high-level government officer working in diplomacy for a long time. Yeom Heung-Bang (염흥방, 廉興邦, the real historical figure that “Hong In-Bang” is based on) had a servant named Yi Gwang (이광, 李光) who abused his master’s power to exploit people. He was notorious for wielding ash clubs to beat people for robbing their land. In 1388, Yi Gwang stole Jo Ban’s land. Jo Ban appealed to his master Yeom Heung-Bang and retrieved the land, but Yi Gwang robbed it again. Furious Jo Ban sent his private armies to kill Yi Gwang, and set fire to his house. Humiliated by his own servant’s death, Yeom Heung-Bang framed Jo Ban for treason. But even his severe torture couldn’t lead Jo Ban into a false confession. Jo Ban shouted to Yeom Heung-Bang “You are the criminal to be punished!” General Choi Young (최영, 崔瑩) intervened and investigated how things really happened, and found out Jo Ban was not guilty. Under the secret order of King U, Choi Young joined forces with General Yi Seong-Gye and took advantage of the chance to drive out the corrupt Dodang trio. Except for Yi In-Im (“Yi In-Gyem” in SFD) who had been good friends with Choi Young, the rest two were arrested and executed. Their families were killed or degenerated into slaves. But as you’ve seen in the drama, SFD writers have changed many details of the historical event. As a result, we can’t predict how things will happen to Gil Tae-Mi and Hong In-Bang in the next episodes. Let’s wait and see.
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Yi Bang-Won : If I were Hong In-Bang, that’s what I would have done. (Putting himself in his shoes) I can never forgive myself for being powerless and weak. I can’t stand myself for surrendering. Yes, I will have the Haedong Gapjok kneel at my feet. I am Hong In-Bang. I’ve lived my life with the infamy of a defector. What reason do I have not to cross any forbidden lines? I will do what no one else has done for 700 years! That is the reason I betrayed Sadaebu and endured the notoriety of being a defector.
* The similarity between Hong In-Bang and Yi Bang-Won This is exactly what Yi Bang-Won will do in the future. Chilling foreshadows. I think Hong In-Bang is Yi Bang-Won’s negative alter ego.
Yi Bang-Woo : The thing that’s inside is called gunpowder. General Choi Mu-Seon created it.
Jo Young-Gyu : Wow, I heard about it, but I didn’t know it would be so powerful.
Yi Bang-Woo : General Choi Young told us to create a gunpowder unit so that we could make use of it to fight off the Japanese pirates.
* Gunpowder in Korea About General Choi Mu-Seon (from wikipedia)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choe_Museon Choi Mu-Seon (최무선, 崔茂宣, 1325~1395) was a medieval Korean scientist, inventor, and military commander during the late Goryeo Dynasty and early Joseon Dynasty. He is best known for enabling Korea to domestically produce gunpowder by obtaining a recipe for the Chinese commodity from a Chinese merchant, as well as inventing various gunpowder-based weapons in an attempt to repel the Japanese pirates that plundered coastal regions of the Korean Peninsula. Korea began its first domestic production of gunpowder between the years of 1374 and 1376. Choi Mu-Seon demonstrated the power of the new weapon in front of King U and many other court advisers; and almost every one of them were impressed by its devastating power compared to other arms which were already in existence in Korea. The government gave him great support, establishing the official laboratory and factory for gunpowder in 1377; here Choe invented various kinds of cannon and other firearms. Among his inventions were the singijeon and the hwacha, a launching device somewhat resembling the first modern multiple rocket launcher. Then he put his inventions into real battle against the Japanese at the Battle of Jinpo (1380), in which he participated as one of the Korean commanders; the battle was easily won by Korean forces, thanks to the gunpowder. He also began to build warships to chase off the pirates.
Gunpowder has already been known to Goryeo government in mid 13th century, but it could not have been produced domestically until the late 14th century. SFD ep. 15~16 are set in 1388 when Jo Ban’s rebellion broke out, so it is at least 12~14 years after Choi Mu-Seon demonstrated gunpowder in front of King U and nobles, and 8 years after the battle of Jinpo against Japanese pirates. So, it is natural that the Haedong Gapjok was scared of Bang-Won’s threat because they already knew the power of gunpowder.
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Yi Bang-Won : Everything you heard from your father today. That’s what I would like to know.
Lady Min : Then what will you give me? Didn’t you say it was a deal?
Yi Bang-Won : The biggest secret of my family and I. If things go wrong, it will keep the Hwangryeo Min clan in a safe position.
* The biggest secret of Yi Seong-Gye’s family You can recognize the ambiguous letters written on the paper : 易姓革命.
It means “Dynastic Revolution”.
@makdik2301 ni le dia rahsia besar family BW |
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Yi Bang-Won : For the 30 years during the Mongol invasions, when the whole country was burning and people were massacred, all of you kept to yourselves on Gangwha Island and held poetry and art exhibitions every day. Yes! Of course it must have been painful to see the wretched reality of Goryeo. That’s why you created so many poems that take pity on the citizens in misery. Other than that, what have you done for 700 years? You sat by and watched history pass you by for 700 years. Without paying any price, you enjoyed everything you could! That’s the Haedong Gapjok.
* Mongol invasions of Korea (1231~1259) Sadly, that is exactly what Goryeo nobles did about 150 years before Yi Bang-Won’s times. The Mongol’s Great Kahns had sent their troops to Goryeo over 9 times from 1231 to 1259. The military regime of Goryeo escaped the capital with King Gojong and nobility, and moved to Ganghwa island. They started the construction of significant defenses to prepare for the Mongol threat because they believed that Mongols’ primary weakness was fear of the sea. Therefore, while the fierce battles between Goryeo commoners and Mongol armies lasted in the mainland for about 30 years, the nobility was enjoying their parties with poems, paintings, music in the island. Goryeo commoners in the mainland should pay taxes to the nobles in the island, while suffering from the massacres of Mongol troops. The Mongolian invasions were so horrible that every structures in Korean peninsula built before the war were completely burnt to ashes. The war ended with King Gojong’s surrender in 1259 when the last leader of the military regime was assassinated. Mongol invasions of Korea (from wikipedia)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasions_of_Korea
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ayushuhada04 replied at 30-11-2015 08:43 AM
wokay2....amik ler SB...
rasanya mcm tkde kot...
Sedih dgr x der org berebut SB |
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ayu rasa ada ler.....
sbb ada sblm ni tanya psl SB
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Edited by santubung at 30-11-2015 09:39 AM
CC@ayushuhada04 CC@Ismaha
Japchae iols dah jadi ... wpun x gelap bihun dia
boleh la.... mcm kerabu suun jah kkkk
sayur iols potong kasar2 sbb x berseni nak hiris halus2
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wah tahniah yer cik San dh berjaya buat japchae...
ala tk pe ler....mula2 mencuba kan...tp dh menjadi tu
kira dh berjaya ler kan...
patut karot tu kena racik halus2...tp tk per..
so mcm mana rasanya? sedap tk? 
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ni yg ayu buat bersama telur gulung
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ayushuhada04 replied at 30-11-2015 10:25 AM
wah tahniah yer cik San dh berjaya buat japchae...
ala tk pe ler....mula2 mencuba kan...tp dh men ...
Mcm kerabu suun jah kkkk |
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Post time 27-11-2015 07:09 PM
ko punya virus tu tahap langit ke 7
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