Ronaldinho VS Cristiano Ronaldo~skill siapa paling hebat?

ahmad_fazill

satu je ronaldo tidak boleh lawan kekacakan bang sagna

naj13

header, two-footed, free kick..

klu tgk bundesliga, german players pun byk yg ader these skills.. but since bundesliga is not as famous as epl, people (read: malaysia) tend to ignore them   

ni x masuk lg cter liga2 lain

MADReaLJL

ronaldo is a bpl and ucl winner, what do germany players have?

and ko jangan la cerai2kan stats tu
kan aku kata; "large muscles, great two footed, great pace, sublime skills, header, breathtaking freekick and the best thing is super constitency" + eye for the passes, super opportunist, sublime finisher and bla3x (kalo ada lagi )
all are boxed into one and he is cristiano ronaldo

and, since ko kata player jerman tu banyak sangat yang hebat, bagi la contoh
jangan la asyik generalize "epl overrated, league lain x femes, ada player lain lagi bagus tapi xnyatakan"

moist

bro, u really need to chill...dun take all comments personally...aku xde lak cakap die ni kalo xleh control game die xkan jadi best player...aku cakap,

n its true what u said, die baru 23. n aku rase next step for him is to dictate the game play. jadi playmaker.coz he cant rely on speed forever. n great players doesnt use speed (zidane,del piero,bergkamp). akal diorang lebih laju dari kaki..

read the highlighted part thoroughly....

kalo ko nak cakap pasal all his skills n stuff, in germany, franck ribery does what ronaldo do in bundesliga...same je..he scores, he creates, he passes, he pisses n all same things...n he's ronaldo's challenger for best player...n for france, he plays the same position as ronaldo. n he takes freekicks too. n he's THE CREATIVE PLAYER for France right now. n for portugal, the playmaker role is given to Deco...dats y as i said in the above paragraph, that next step for him is to dictate the game play. kalo die leh, he will be unstoppable..the perfect player. dats y i think, dat scolari bagi die captain 4 portugal..supaya die dapat lebih tanggungjawab utk d whole team..

MADReaLJL

kalo dia jadi playmaker, deco nak jadik apa?
kat barca pun deco jadik playmaker
and as a wideman, u dun have to be a playmaker.. just open space untuk orang lain and finish

and great player doesnt use his speed? not really.. speed is always an advantage
he doesnt need to emulate bergkamp, zidane etc.. he just need become himself

ribery memang la bagus.. tapi ronaldo lagi bagus dari dia
contoh cam compare goalkeeper la.. reina boleh buat apa yg casillas boleh buat.. reaction power, waktu cross flap sket, shot stopper, one on one decent tapi casillas still lagi hebat dari reina.. sebab tu dia jadik keeper no 1 spain.. in the same time bukannya reina xhebat

and ribery is not a finisher
kat france dia dictate game play pasal france main 2 defensive midfielders
kalo nak harap makelele ngan toulalan jadik playmaker, memang hancus r
sekarang pun france memang hancus

i get what u mean though
kalo ko tengok dia men waktu 06/07.. memang kagum r.. dia jadik penggerak team.. assist banyak.. macam2 stail.. score pun banyak.. patutnya dia yang menang fifa world player bukan kaka.. kalo xmo bagi menang pun no 2 kira ok
tapi season 07/08, man utd dah kekurangan striker.. solskjaer retired, smith blah, saha injured manjang, rossi pun g villareal.. sebab tu dia diberi responsibility untuk score goal lagi banyak
dia boleh je dictate gameplay

[ Last edited by  MADReaLJL at 17-6-2008 01:38 PM ]

moist

and again i respond by saying....dude, u gotta read between the lines...its true dat ronaldo is a winger..but a winger can also be a playmaker..n when i say "n aku rase next step for him is to dictate the game play. jadi playmaker", i meant dat if he wants it, he can..n kalo die nak jadi the BEST PLAYER, NOT THE BEST WIDE PLAYER, he'll have 2 take dat task..pavel nedved is a wide player who can also be a playmaker..zidane mase kat real madrid pun main kiri. luis figo is a winger who is also a playmaker. luis enrique was one too.

ribery is a finisher...coba tanya sape2 yg ikut bundesliga..n as a winger, he can cross, while ronaldo sucks at crossing. dats y he drifts inside to shoot while rooney had to cover his position on the wings..

n following th topic of the thread, ronaldinho also plays as a wide player in barca. die main kiri, pas2 drift inside while xavi main blkg sket...same position..n becoz he's a playmaker, he can create,cross,pass,shoot,dribble,finish n all...n dats y d survey states ronaldinho's better...but ronaldo CAN get better...dats all im sayin...

mekacih...

moist

and again i respond by saying....dude, u gotta read between the lines...its true dat ronaldo is a winger..but a winger can also be a playmaker..n when i say "n aku rase next step for him is to dictate the game play. jadi playmaker", i meant dat if he wants it, he can..n kalo die nak jadi the BEST PLAYER, NOT THE BEST WIDE PLAYER, he'll have 2 take dat task..pavel nedved is a wide player who can also be a playmaker..zidane mase kat real madrid pun main kiri. luis figo is a winger who is also a playmaker. luis enrique was one too.

ribery is a finisher...coba tanya sape2 yg ikut bundesliga..n as a winger, he can cross, while ronaldo sucks at crossing. dats y he drifts inside to shoot while rooney had to cover his position on the wings..

n following th topic of the thread, ronaldinho also plays as a wide player in barca. die main kiri, pas2 drift inside while xavi main blkg sket...same position..n becoz he's a playmaker, he can create,cross,pass,shoot,dribble,finish n all...n dats y d survey states ronaldinho's better...but ronaldo CAN get better...dats all im sayin...

mekacih...

mesinbasuh

kesimpulan terkini :

dua-dua tak bagus, sekor kaki parti dan takde disiplin, sekor lagik takde moral dan lupa daratan

naj13

Originally posted by moist at 16-6-2008 04:41 PM
bro, u really need to chill...dun take all comments personally..

tu arrrrrrrrrrrrrrr kan

Ustaz_SUFI

Cristiano lew...

MADReaLJL

pele was never a playmaker, but he is being tout as the best player

MADReaLJL

ronaldo is not sucks at crossing
ko kena paham, kan aku da kata kat man utd ngan portugal, dia punya header la yang paling bagus.. sebab tu dedua manager prefer dia yang dok tengah.. bukan jadik tukang cross
and in man utd, the forwards never consistently stay at their position.. they always interchange between the others
rooney selalu ada kat left wing sebab nak tolong defend

play at ur best strength, then u should be the best
its true zidane played at left sided midfielder.. he is one of the best player.. but did he ever scored as many as ronaldo? no.. riquelme? no.. ronaldinho? no.. but they have their own strength in their game rite? sebab tu orang cakap mereka ni the best
apa yg aku nak cakap;  the best player never be the perfect player, but they play their best at their strength, that is why they are considered as the best

p/s: mana ada personal bebeh

chickenking1

Ronaldo for life

moist

sape yg xde moral n lupa daratan? ronaldo ke? kalo ye, nape die lupa daratan?

neo-painkillerz

Originally posted by mesinbasuh at 17-6-2008 03:45 PM
kesimpulan terkini :

dua-dua tak bagus, sekor kaki parti dan takde disiplin, sekor lagik takde moral dan lupa daratan

tu la masaah abg gigi ni..
kalau tak kaki parti...
dier tentu tak jadi cam sekarang ni.........

si ronaldo ni....muda lagi....nengok jer la..brapa la dier lih pertahanan momentum prestasi dier camni...

MADReaLJL

hampeh r.. xupdate lak topik ni.. apa masalah ha? aku takleh baca latest post

moist

dude....again....u should read, n re-read what i posted...i said the perfect PLAYER.. not d best..not d best winger, or playmaker, or striker, or goalscorer, or crosser or whatever...the PERFECT PLAYER..

p/s; read the survey at d top of dis thread..orang yg vote for ronaldinho jauh lebih banyak dari ronaldo tu...the fact dat most people voted for toothie should already hit u by now..BUT, ronaldo, as i said many times, can get better than ronaldinho, or any player..he can be the PERFECT n BEST PLAYER...n its not just me who says this. if u cud read this thread from start till now, there's bound to be orang yg cakap same ngan aku..im just d guy who likes to post long comments..others write few words..

MADReaLJL

ok.. point taken

but there r no such thing like prefect player anyway.. dalam pes/fifa ada la itu pun buat sendiri

anyway, i never bother to look at the poll.. ko cakap tu baru aku perasan ada poll

Guantanamera

bagi aku ronaldinho ngan zidane jugak yg best...
rindu kat zidane

MADReaLJL

zidane memang best bro. dia bukan jenis show off skill cam ronaldo.. always use it at the right place and the right time