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Author: dr2601

Akhirnya Dokdo Jadi Pilihan Ganti KD Seri Inderapura!

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Post time 3-12-2009 12:58 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by jf_pratama at 3-12-2009 10:33

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Terlalu kecik lah itu Pak cik ....

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jf_pratama Post at 3-12-2009 11:14


indon tu yg ada cita2 punya kapal induk cam nie .. nak belum KS pun berbelas kali tertunda...
lagi mau berlagak kat sini with typical sarcastic remarks ... voley bla...
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Post time 3-12-2009 01:17 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by Laxamana. at 2-12-2009 22:46

Most probably seperti dicadangkan oleh Marhalim tempohari dalam .. malaysiandefence... very logical. Dia pun ada tulis mengenai document review 'readi ...
Laxamana. Post at 3-12-2009 03:12



Lekiu batch 2 memang konfirm kancel sebab kos naik ke  6 billion !
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Post time 3-12-2009 01:19 PM | Show all posts
140# yaminz

2 KS pak cik!!!....em....terima kasih pakcik kalau cuma tahu segitu!!!!!!
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Post time 3-12-2009 01:29 PM | Show all posts
lekiu batch II tuh lupakanlah, banyak lagi kapal baru yg lebih mantap designnya.....
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Post time 3-12-2009 02:35 PM | Show all posts
Betul, klau xde duit sgt armed our NGPV to the teeth pun dah cukup, klau dpt 2nd batch NGPV pun aku rasa lagi worth it dari Lekiu Batch 2~
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Post time 3-12-2009 03:00 PM | Show all posts
133# yaminz
A bit confusing.....
Buy share untuk mendapatkan teknologi?
Teknologi apa? Teknologi pertahanan tidak bisa dibuat hanya membeli syarikat swasta berbeda dengan case lotus. Teknologi pertahanan bagaimanapun harus ada perjanjian/MOU etc antar negara. Karena ada kuasa negara/pemerintah atas teknologi pertahanan yang sifatnya rahasia negara.
Jika hanya ToT pembuatan LPD saya kira ia lebih kepada masalah teknik pembuatan kapal tentara yang berbeda dengan pembuatan kapal cargo walaupun pada dasarnya LPD adalah kapal cargo. Tidak perlu hingga membeli share limbungan kapal di korea.
Yang diperlukan hanya teknikal assistance asalkan kapasitas dan fasilitas limbungan kapal di malaysia memenuhi keperluan pembuatan LPD ini, kecuali memang ini masalahnya sehingga terjadi pembelian share limbungan kapal di korea.

Tapi jika tak ada kapasitas dan fasilitas  kenapa tak ditambah saja kapasitas dan fasilitas limbungan kapal di malaysia?
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Post time 3-12-2009 03:20 PM | Show all posts
146# kalasnhikov
Business Expansion...
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Post time 3-12-2009 03:24 PM | Show all posts
indon2 nie menyemak jer kat sini...bagi mkn cukup la dulu kat rakyat tu..ni rakyat melarat sibuk nk masuk campur urusan negara org..gan singapore pon kecut..
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Post time 3-12-2009 03:34 PM | Show all posts
143# advark

Maleh nak cakap banyak ahh!!!


Nih agaknyer Indon nyer Whiskey dulu..


Ri Pasopati (Whiskey) yg dh jadi pameran...siap leh masuk dlm lg...
"Kalau Anda keSurabaya jangan lupa ke daerah Gubeng, tepatnya di samping SurabayaPlasa dan tepi Kalimas. Di sana Anda akan menemui salah satu kapalselam yang dulu kita miliki yaitu RI Pasopati (410). Tiket masuknyanggak mahal kok, di bawah Rp. 10.000,"



Yg ada sekarang....
KRI Cakra (401) type 209/1300. Baru Overhaul kat  Daewoo, Korea Selatan.



KRI Nanggala (402)..Mempunyai motto Tabah Sampai Akhir..hehehe...
Type 209/1300. Kapal merupakan salah satu dari 12 kapal selam kelas Tjakra buatan Rusia (kelas Whiskey) yang di-scrap dlm taun 1970-an. Yg ni lom o/haul lg kot...

Jadi yg ada kat Indon semuanye skli ialah 3...hehehe..
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Post time 3-12-2009 03:53 PM | Show all posts
Kapan Lagi
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Post time 3-12-2009 03:59 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by CikguPJ at 3-12-2009 16:00

apa laa yg nk di banggakan sgt ngan kilo dia 2...beli yg terpakai versi lm cuma nk upgrade vertical launch jer...itu pn blum tentu yer ker x...indon claim kilo ks konventional yg trsenyap d dunia padahal cuma antara yg trsenyap kalu kira dh msuk zaman skrang nie...teknologi pn thn 80-90an...kalau x knaper india yg dh ada kilo pi tukar scorpene?, borong 6 bijik lak 2...baik india tambah jer jumlah kilo yg d katakan ks konvensional power sgt2 2.
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Post time 3-12-2009 04:34 PM | Show all posts
sori, ni pertanyaan org yg duduk dlm hutan.... apa beza sangat design kapal civilian n kapal navy? pasal pada pandangan aku kapal ni macam tin can aje. setakat layout ruang dgn architecture aku rasa MMHE atau Boustead pun boleh buat takde masalah. yg jadikan dia navy vessel is the outfitting; defense system, ordnance n system integration. system integration ni pun aku rasa org kita boleh buat. yg defense n ordance tu kita boleh contract out dgn Thales ke, sesiapa ke.

so, kenapa kita tak design sendiri kapal navy kita?
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Post time 3-12-2009 05:25 PM | Show all posts
133# yaminz
A bit confusing.....
Buy share untuk mendapatkan teknologi?
Teknologi apa? Teknologi pertahanan tidak bisa dibuat hanya membeli syarikat swasta berbeda dengan case lotus. Teknologi pe ...
kalasnhikov Post at 3-12-2009 10:00 AM


NGV Tech Sdn. Bhd. akan bina kapal pengangkut pelbagai guna (MSS) untuk Tentera Laut Diraja Malaysia (TLDM) dengan   termeterai perjanjian pembelian ekuiti syarikat perkapalan Korea Selatan, TKS Co. Ltd. sebanyak 66 peratus. Pembelian itu mampu meningkatkan kapasiti pengeluaran NGV kerana syarikat dari Korea tersebut mempunyai infrastruktur lengkap untuk tujuan berkenaan. Syarikat di Korea Selatan itu akan dinamakan semula dengan NGV Tech Shipbuilding Sdn. Bhd. kerana dikuasai Malaysia.

TKS Co. Ltd. mempunyai kelengkapan seperti limbungan kering sepanjang 200 meter dan beberapa kren setaraf dengan syarikat-syarikat pengeluar kapal terkemuka dunia di Jepun dan Barat.Malaysia tidak boleh membangunkan kapal saiz besar itu di Teluk Panglima Garang kerana ruang tidak mencukupi, perairan cetek sementara proses mendalamkan sungai pula menelan kos yang tinggi. A great platform for reaching world market for a Malaysian company...
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Post time 3-12-2009 05:29 PM | Show all posts
143# advark

Dah ada baru nak berlagakla..jamban kapal pon xde lagi nak bising
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153# Laxamana.
I see...
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Post time 4-12-2009 08:30 AM | Show all posts
On a mission to woo Malaysia

2009/12/04

LANGKAWI: The South Korean navy guards the secrets of the ROKS Dokdo jealously.

On the mega-sized amphibious landing ship are posters picturing a hand with a thumbdrive and another hand pointing a gun at it.

The message is clear: The risk of taking information on this ship off board is not worth it.

However, the country didn't think twice about sending the Hanjin Heavy Industries-built vessel on a one-week voyage to Malaysia or, upon arriving, opening it up for journalists to poke around in.

The reason: Dokdo is South Korea's "salesman" as the country tries to soft-sell its ship to Malaysia, knowing it's looking for a multi-role support ship to replace the largest ship in the Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN), KD Seri Inderapura, which was recently destroyed by a fire.

"Selamat datang ke Dokdo," said navy public affairs officer Lt Lee Deok Young, as journalists entered the cavern-like rear flooding deck in the belly of the 14,000-tonne vessel.

The greeting, in perfect Bahasa Malaysia, made it obvious how much the South Koreans want this deal.

The parade of reporters passed the loading area, normally filled with 10 amphibious assault vehicles and two landing craft, and made their way up steep flights of steps, past the crew's living quarters (the ship is capable of comfortably housing over 1,000 people) and into the bridge.

Lee explained that the bridge was usually closed to everybody except crew members.

"But our commanding officer told us to accommodate the journalists today," said the baby-faced officer.

The bridge overlooks the ship's deck from its majestic 23.8m vantage point. From there, you can see the fore "Goalkeeper" close-in weapon system, which defends the ship from incoming missiles and ballistic shells.

The fully automated system, also found in aircraft carriers and airfields, consists of an auto-cannon and radar which tracks incoming fire, determines its trajectory, then aims the gun and fires in a matter of seconds.

There's another Goalkeeper aftward as well, just in case anybody tries to be smart.

Lee was quick to extol the virtues of the vessel.

"Without this kind of a ship, you cannot take the commanding position in an exercise. You can only perform support duties. The Dokdo-class can control air, sea and landing ops," he said without the slightest hint of boastfulness.


Reminded that Malaysia will only buy vessels that come with after-sales support and technology transfer, Lee responded by pointing out South Korea's deal with Turkey that saw technology and maintenance being sent along with the K9 Thunder self-propelled 155mm howitzer.

"It won't be the first time we've worked with other countries," he said.

Still, South Korea will need to do a whole lot more if it wants to convince RMN chief Admiral Tan Sri Abdul Aziz Jaafar that Malaysia really needs such a huge ship.

Aziz told the New Straits Times later that the ship was futuristic and highly capable and, in terms of cost, would be "a whopper" -- something not very practical in the current economic climate.

Also, he said, a Dokdo-class vessel might be "too big" for Malaysia.

"For a ship to be operated properly, it mustn't be too big for the berthing space.

"The level of sophistication mustn't be too high either because it will cost too much to operate it."


macam navy taknak je kapal ni...
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Post time 4-12-2009 09:38 AM | Show all posts
156# guyfawke

Maybe cheif navy nak anak dokdo...
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Post time 4-12-2009 09:58 AM | Show all posts
157# yaminz

ala susah2..pakai je lah makassar type tu...
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Post time 4-12-2009 10:04 AM | Show all posts
158# guyfawke

Nanti Indo kata kita cilok diorg punyer design
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