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alphawolf

Kalau nak kira takde apa sangat hebatnya Formidable ni (nama aje la kot)...weapons pun off-the-shelf. Sama dengan Electronics dia. Advantage dia cuma stealthier than usual. Tapi stealth fighter walaupun stealth, cuma beroperasi malam aje kan? Kalau kapal, stealth camne pun dia punya wake berbatu boleh nampak.

aneep

anti aircraft still penting kerana byk ASM yg range die agak dekat yg still dipakai
so kalau dah masuk range AAM, boleh tembak saja launch platform tuh before he launches his ASM

nak compare ASTER 15 punye range dgn Seawolf ke? lagi la dekat, rasenye mmg senang2 saja mane a/c nak tembak ASM out of range of Seawolf
16 cell, boleh guide 2 in flight kan seingat saya? kalau 4 ASM launch at the same time? 8?

-aneep-

mmc

Originally posted by alphawolf at 17-3-2005 03:10 PM:
Kalau nak kira takde apa sangat hebatnya Formidable ni (nama aje la kot)...weapons pun off-the-shelf. Sama dengan Electronics dia. Advantage dia cuma stealthier than usual. Tapi stealth fighter wal ...

asyik 'right on the nose" aja alpha:cak::bgrin:

aneep

i found some of these articles very informative

http://www.harpoonhq.com/waypoint/

tapi betul ke Seawolf bleh guide 2 jer pd satu masa? somebody can confirm? Aster ade jumpa ckp 16 simultaneous, ESSM fire and forget, bleh semua 32 cell sekali gus tembak kot

-aneep-

[ Last edited by aneep on 17-3-2005 at 04:10 PM ]

mmc

Originally posted by aneep at 17-3-2005 04:07 PM:
i found some of these articles very informative

http://www.harpoonhq.com/waypoint/

tapi betul ke Seawolf bleh guide 2 jer pd satu masa? somebody can confirm? Aster ade jumpa ckp 16 ...

well whatever it is vl miva and aster 15 would be comparable...

http://www.mbda.net/site/FO/scri ... g=EN&noeu_id=95 vl mica

http://www.mbda.net/site/FO/scri ... g=EN&noeu_id=87 aster 15

jofizo

apa spesifikasi Lekiu Batch 2 ni?

selain dari model nih, ada model lain lagi ke dalam pemerhatian RMN?

aneep

mmc
rasenye comparable to mungkin tidaklah (tgk warhead weight, range, interception altitude, etc), but still IMO VL MICA would be a worthwhile upgrade path for our ships currently with Seawolf launchers
operational requirement dlm page yg di bagi pon dah beza

VL MICA

Operational requirement
Before VL MICA, there was no fire and forget Point Defence Missile System (PDMS) capable of providing all weather self-defence against multiple and simultaneous air attacks from combat aircraft, anti-ship or air-surface stand-off missiles. The system can be easily integrated and can be procured without any development risks, at a cost that is in line with the defence budgets of most countries.

ASTER 15

Provide outstanding protection of high value naval platforms against highly manoeuvring supersonic anti-ship missiles, non manoeuvring subsonic sea-skimmers, Anti-Radiation Missiles (ARMs), Fighter Aircraft and Maritime Patrol Aircraft. The protection of nearby ships against the same type of air threat is also required.

the bold is mine

jofizo
i'm pretty sure we are not looking at any other model except the Lekiu Batch 2 (at  (improved Lekiu), at least from UK yard lah, tataulah kalau RMN ade perati model lain dari Italy ke Spain ke Germany ke
bukan bende baru nak beli (sebab Ambalat), tapi dari dulu lagi nak beli, fulus je takde (RMK-8 dulu)

kalau salah tolong betulkan

-aneep-

mmc

Originally posted by aneep at 18-3-2005 01:35 AM:
mmc
rasenye comparable to mungkin tidaklah (tgk warhead weight, range, interception altitude, etc), but still IMO VL MICA would be a worthwhile upgrade path for our ships currently with Seawolf la ...

in a way you are right aneep tapi tak mungkin dapat dua benda berlainan kebolehan yang sama, dari same manufacturer jugakkan...it all depends on the navy requirements, but for rmn for the sake of commonality since boleh retrofit kat existing lekiu, vl mica mungkin jadi pilihan lebih baik...tunggu LIMA ajalah ya, idak pun DSA 2006:cak:

lipanlapan

Cadangan dari Lipan yang tgh kelaparan belum sarap :

Alang2 nak guna VL kan, masukkan sekali Scalp Navale ke....

p/s : x lame lagi akan ade tetangge akan guna rudal kendali kruis

mmc

Originally posted by lipanlapan at 18-3-2005 09:13 AM:
Cadangan dari Lipan yang tgh kelaparan belum sarap :

Alang2 nak guna VL kan, masukkan sekali Scalp Navale ke....

p/s : x lame lagi akan ade tetangge akan guna rudal kendali kruis

bung L8...mana mau diletak rudal kendali kruis itu, sedangkan pemasangan rudal pada pesawt sukhoiu tiada rupiah! juga pembelian tambahan sukhoi sudah diganti pesawat kargo gitu...mau naiki harga minyak mungkin...kasi rakyat bisa nf: lagi!

lipanlapan

Originally posted by mmc at 18-3-2005 09:26 AM:

bung L8...mana mau diletak rudal kendali kruis itu, sedangkan pemasangan rudal pada pesawt sukhoiu tiada rupiah! juga pembelian tambahan sukhoi sudah diganti pesawat kargo gitu...mau naiki harg ...

bung mmc, bukan tetangga yg itu , saje je guna bahase belah lagi satu.

mmc

Originally posted by lipanlapan at 18-3-2005 09:52 AM:


bung mmc, bukan tetangga yg itu , saje je guna bahase belah lagi satu.

aiya like dat wan aa....why don't say wan:cak:

lipanlapan

Originally posted by mmc at 18-3-2005 09:54 AM:


aiya like dat wan aa....why don't say wan:cak:

ha ha, saje bagi kelabu asap sket :lol

mmc

Originally posted by lipanlapan at 18-3-2005 09:56 AM:


ha ha, saje bagi kelabu asap sket :lol

boleh tanya, mana itu olang mau letak itu rudal...mana da mk42 vls...sylver adalah tapi tak muat utk scalp!

lipanlapan

Originally posted by mmc at 18-3-2005 10:02 AM:

boleh tanya, mana itu olang mau letak itu rudal...mana da mk42 vls...sylver adalah tapi tak muat utk scalp!

kalo nak masukkan A-70, kena panjangkan sket hull,....cube try test tgk..ade tak diorg wat pemanjangan..10-14 meter

mmc

Originally posted by lipanlapan at 18-3-2005 10:09 AM:


kalo nak masukkan A-70, kena panjangkan sket hull,....cube try test tgk..ade tak diorg wat pemanjangan..10-14 meter

panjang ke dalam...boleh double meaning ni:lol

lipanlapan

Originally posted by mmc at 18-3-2005 10:18 AM:

panjang ke dalam...boleh double meaning ni:lol

miahahaha :bgrin:

alphawolf

Rudal kendali kruis apa yang mereka butu*kan? Ini kira dah lebey dah ni....dulu TUDM nak beli Tornado...bising kata offensive weapons le itu le ini le....

aneep

Navale Scalp tuh aa
ade org tuh nak pasang utk next batch of Deltas (Batch 2),i think
  
-aneep-

alphawolf

Eh, camne boley miss nih. BTW, Csalp tu sama dgn Storm Shadow kan?