Collagen mentah / Ibu collagen.. ada sesiapa pernah cuba?

Santeira

Glass posted on 23-10-2012 09:51 AM
Bagi reason kenapa x valid?

Pertama dia  bandingkan

The question I raised ialah both things as primary product, bukan seciondary product. Anggur ialah buah, rumpai laut ialah tumbuhan. Different property, kalau you makan buah banyak2 takda kesan, kenapa you can assume makan rumpai laut takda kesan juga selepas jangka panjang? Do you get it or are we still discussing this irrelevant matter?

julia5094

En Santeira..busy buat kerja?? tapi kt sini asyik dok tengok muka u je?? ke mmg u mod forum ni ke ??

Santeira

julia5094 posted on 23-10-2012 10:11 AM
En Santeira..busy buat kerja?? tapi kt sini asyik dok tengok muka u je?? ke mmg u mod forum ni ke ?? ...

kenapa you takut nak bagi PDF file tu? What are you trying to hide? Macam hadith atau ayat quran, boleh ke kita potong2 tak bagi semua sedangkan bila kita baca semua, baru kita tahu apa sebenarnya yang disampaikan? Kenapa kamu takut nak bagi?

kalau betul seperti apa yang kamu kata, kamu tidak perlu takut, saya tidak biased. Saya cuma mahukan bukti, even though bukti kamu masih tidak dapat membuktikan apa sebab semua makanan yang kita makan hari-hari ada khasiat tersendiri, euchema cottoniii ni juga tidak banyak beza. Kenapa kita nak dengar testimonial saja? Entah2 beginners reka2 testimonial, bukan dia tak boleh buat pun, mungkin sellers jadi multinick nak bikin testimonial.

Glass

Santeira posted on 23-10-2012 10:03 AM
The question I raised ialah both things as primary product, bukan seciondary product. Anggur ialah ...

I id i have no more issue to discus. Sila pergi buat kerja, kata banyak kerja.. lain la saya, kerja mengadap forum jer

Santeira

Glass posted on 23-10-2012 10:14 AM
I id i have no more issue to discus. Sila pergi buat kerja, kata banyak kerja.. lain la saya, kerj ...

Saya sudah biasa multitasking. Sekarang saya tidak faham kenapa ada orang takut untuk berikan PDF itu, saya cuma nak verify, sebab bagi sekerat2 mungkin menyebabkan salah pemahaman. You tak perlu emo, saya concern dengan penipuan yang dilakukan oleh peniaga dan saya anggap ini ialah perjuangan saya untuk agama dan bangsa saya. Tak perlu halau2.

FyeCmeya

Abstract
The proximate composition, vitamin C, α-tocopherol,
dietary fibers, minerals, fatty acid and amino acid
profiles of three tropical edible seaweeds, Eucheuma
cottonii (Rhodophyta), Caulerpa lentillifera (Chlorophyta)
and Sargassum polycystum (Phaeophyta) were studied. The
seaweeds were high in ash (37.15–46.19%) and dietary
fibers (25.05–39.67%) and low in lipid content (0.29–
1.11%) on dry weight (DW) basis. These seaweeds
contained 12.01–15.53% macro-minerals (Na, K, Ca and
Mg) and 7.53–71.53 mg.100 g−1 trace minerals (Fe, Zn, Cu,
Se and I). The crude protein content of E. cottonii (9.76%
DW) and C. lentillifera (10.41% DW) were higher than that
of S. polycystum (5.4% DW), and protein chemical scores
are between 20 and 67%. The PUFA content of E. cottonii
was 51.55%, C. lentillifera 16.76% and S. polycystum
20.34%. Eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA), accounted for
24.98% of all fatty acids in E. cottonii. These seaweeds
have significant vitamin C (～35 mg.100 g−1) and α-
tocopherol (5.85–11.29 mg.100 g−1) contents.
Keywords Seaweeds . Nutrient composition .
Dietary fiber . Minerals . Omega-3 fatty acids . Amino acids

Ini sedikit abstract la... the author from UPM and UMS..
however testing of vitamin C and fatty acid dibuat semasa sample masih fresh.. means.. dia mmng mudah hilang khasiat vitamin C huhu.. tapi yang lain2 test dia buat after seaweed dry n siap ground la..

Results and discussion
Table 1 shows the nutrient contents of the seaweeds based
on dry weight (DW) except for vitamin C content. The
protein content of S. polycystum was the lowest (5.40%)
compared to E. cottonii (9.76%) and C. lentillifera
(10.41%), and were within the ranges of brown seaweeds
(3–15% DW) and red and green seaweeds (10–47% DW)
(Arasaki and Arasaki 1983; Darcy-Vrillon 1993; Mabeau
and Fleurence 1993). The protein content of E. cottonii and
C. lentillifera are comparable with that of high-protein plant
foods such as soybean. Variations in the protein content of
seaweeds can occur due to different species and season
(Fleurence 1999; Galland-Irmouli et al. 1999).

ini pasal protein dalam tiga jenis seaweed yer..

Eucheuma cottonii has a high amount of PUFAs
especially omega-3 fatty acids (high levels of EPA) which
is beneficial to health, thereby making it a healthy low-fat
food, rich in omega-3 fatty acids. Omega-3 fatty acids help
prevent the growth of atherosclerotic plaque and affect
blood clotting, blood pressure and improve immune
functions (Stone 1997). High dietary omega-6 PUFA
decreases LDL cholesterol but may also decrease HDL
cholesterol, which adversely affects heart disease risk
(Dietschy 1998; Sánchez-Machado et al. 2004). WHO
currently recommends that the ω6/ω3 ratio should not
exceed 10 in the diet. These seaweeds have a low ω6/ω3
ratio (0.10 for E. cottonii and 1.06 for C. lentillifera) and
may be of use for reducing the ω6/ω3 ratio. Dietary
omega-3 PUFA can reduce heart disease risks, decrease low
density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol but do not lower high
density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol (Stone 1997). Although
seaweeds are low in total lipids, their PUFAs
content can be as high as those of terrestrial vegetables
(Darcy-Vrillon 1993). The presence of these essential fatty

ni pasal omega 3..

tempat berlainan, species yang lain2, season, semua mmpengaruhi kandungan nutrient dalam seaweed.

readers boleh baca kat cini ye... selamat membaca
Nutrient content of tropical edible seaweeds, Eucheuma cottonii, Caulerpa lentillifera and Sargassum polycystum

FyeCmeya

ina_na posted on 23-10-2012 09:42 AM
la tak abis2 lg ke isu nie...aku dah semakin gembira...seleps 2week mkn si seaweed nie...jerawat nai ...

bagus lah ina_na.. petanda positif tu..

Glass

Santeira posted on 23-10-2012 10:17 AM
Saya sudah biasa multitasking. Sekarang saya tidak faham kenapa ada orang takut untuk berikan PDF  ...

"You're just whining pasal benda yang tak relevan. Saya malas nak layan isu bodoh mcm tu when it isn't even important to be discussed."

"saya tak ada masa sbb tengah buat kerja. if you have nothing to hide, don't be afraid"


Ini statement awak tadi kan?? Saya tak halau... awak nak stay awak stay la. Saya tak nak kacau awak dengan isu bodoh lagi. Awak engineer ek? ke tuan punya syarikat?

cyra

Santeira posted on 23-10-2012 09:18 AM
It's obvious you didn't read what I said and I have no further thing to say to you, as rather than ...

dude... you are the one who starts on the carragenan thing... so be a sport laa bila ppl try to argue on that... ni bila org nak argue on that... you ckp plak your issue is only on the collagen.. then might as well takyah mention pasal carragenan pon at the first place

julia5094

En Santeira..yang FyeCmeya tu lagi lengkap kajiannya daripada yang i dapat tu...so u can refer to that one la easier bagi sapa2 yang banyak kerja. But i makan dah dapat hasilnya, tu dah cukup untuk i. Dengan 3 anak dan terpaksa buat semua urusan hantar ambil anak dan buat keje multitasking jugak..Tapi at least i makan rumpai laut ni, tenaga makin bertambah dan dapat balik masak hari2..tu dah alhamdulillah..

cyra

Santeira posted on 23-10-2012 09:36 AM
you tak faham apa saya cakap. Analogi ialah perbandingan, tetapi the gist of my point ialah buat a ...

if you just lower down your pride and take the time to read, then you would definitely realised the answer to your 'unrelated analogy' issue has already been addressed

julia5094

cyra posted on 23-10-2012 10:35 AM
if you just lower down your pride and take the time to read, then you would definitely realised th ...

Like ur statement ..mode kena letak butang like kat forum ni

cyra

Santeira posted on 23-10-2012 10:13 AM
kenapa you takut nak bagi PDF file tu? What are you trying to hide? Macam hadith atau ayat quran,  ...

omg... you're just so full of negativity... memula mention hadith then penuh ayat berburuk sangka

ina_na

tu la tanda positif yg baik...dan ada la gak kwn2 aku yg mencubanye...coz tgk perubhn aku...sblm nie mk aku kusam...mkn mcm2 pun putih jer jdnye tp seri tak der...bl dah mkn nie terjumpe lak gan kwn2 ex-ofismate dl...dia org pun apa lg nak mencuba la...yg bestnye dia org dpt jer trs rendam...n air bilasan tu dia org rendam kaki n tangan kumain sknye mereka bl kulit tangan n tapak kaki jd halus...n yg bgsnye en suami kwn2 aku tu pun beria2 nak mencuba coz msg2 dah perut buncit...aku ada pesan kat dia org mkn suami isteri nanti leh la selalu ber hem3 coz dah bertenaga...lg la dia org sk...pd aku selain makan seaweed nie dpt kesan tuk diri sendiri n kita leh eratkan hub gan kwan2...yer la kan sharing is caring...aku sk coz selain harga dia murah suami isteri anak2 pun leh mkn...dr tak bertenaga leh bertenaga...

go_go

so ada protein maknanya ada collegen ke??

yang claim 100%  pure marine collagen cam mana???

isunya ialah collagen......itulah soalan saya

julia5094

Usus kita ni seperti saluran air pada sinki kat rumah kita tu.Setiap hari ia jadi laluan segala jenis makanan yg telah dicernakan...lama-kelamaan, usus kita ini akan dipenuhi oleh mendakan2 makanan yg tercerna,yang menyebabkan usus kita semakin membesar dan melendut.Akibatnya, perut kita akan semakin maju ke hadapan dan sistem perkumuhan kita juga terganggu. Kalau dulu, lawas jer, sekarang mungkin dah kurang lawas. Makan 4 kali sehari...yang buang nyer cuma sekali sehari...bahkan ada yg selang sehari qadha hajat!!!

Kesan2 lain dari usus yg dah sarat dengan pelbagai sisa tu ialah
1) mslh nafas berbau
2) mslh jerawat
3) mslh kulit kusam
4) mslh bdn cepat lesu
5) mslh lambat penyerapan vitamin @ supplement
6) SEMBELIT

dan lain2 lagi....sebagaimana hadith Rasulullah s.a.w, "segala macam penyakit itu berpunca daripada perut" So ini adalah salah satu lagi kebaikan rumpai laut. Senang nk melawas kan. Bila usus sihat automatikly nutrisi akan cepat serap dan bahagian yang jelas kelihatan tentula kulit kita yang semakin berseri..

go_go

julia5094 posted on 23-10-2012 09:00 AM
Pada pemahaman saya yang tak de Phd ni, actually kolagen memang ada dalam sesetengah  tumbuhan. Tapi ...

1. an menurut kajian, rumpai laut spesifiknya CE ni, mengandungi amino asid yang tinggi iaitu salah satu komponen dalam kolagen. Hyaluronic acid ni juga didapati tinggi dalam rumpai lau

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adakah bermaksud mempunyai amino asid yg tinggi bermakna ada collagen???

well ini kena bukti satu kajian dan eksperiment yg khusus dan spesifik pasal EC dan kollagen sahaja utk menjawab soalan ini

sesusah jer

cyra posted on 23-10-2012 10:42 AM
omg... you're just so full of negativity... memula mention hadith then penuh ayat berburuk sangka
...

jgnla heran... dia bod memana pon nk menang... fakta betul ke x... yg penting dia nk menjawab.. jd mod pon psl banyak masa nk argue/debate with forummers... tp skali cik julia sound google la sendiri.. hamik kauuuuu.....
what the hey.. i want 5 days MC.. blink..blink...

p/s: like ur statement sejuta kali...

julia5094

Collagen fibers are made from protein that has a high proportion of two amino acids, called hydroxylysine and hydroxyproline.

Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/articl ... agen/#ixzz2A5XQCpuo

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julia5094 posted on 23-10-2012 11:15 AM
Collagen fibers are made from protein that has a high proportion of two amino acids, called hydroxyl ...

tiada spesifik to EC

ia hanya dibuktikan dengan research yg spesifik EC dalam konteks collagen,  bukan membuat pukul rata dan andaian sahaja.......