Psywar in cyberspace... defeated?..

kip

``salam tuk semua...
``psywar n cyberspace..........
``kita sedar tak...

\"Islam diserang dengan hebat dari semua penjuru dalam semua aspek kehidupan,
dari kepercayaan, cara beribadah,gaya hidup, cara berpakaian, pergaulan dan hampir segala-gala nya dalam kehidupan.
Apa yang lebih menyedihkan....     
Di pihak umat Islam sendiri muncul pula \'bijak pandai\' yang seakan telah termakan dengan perang saraf musuh Islam
dan mengambil pendekatan \'if you can\'t beat them, joint them!\' atau jika  kita tidak mampu mengalahkan mereka,
adalah lebih baik kita mengikut cara mereka sahaja. Inilah yang paling merbahaya....\"
...petikan dari sidang pengarang TEMPUR (Defence, Industry & Security) Nov. 2006 pg 2.


``dlm keghairahan kita menegakkan kebenaran disini...
``kadang2 kita lupa dalam zaman modern ini peperangan itu adalah multifrontal...
``some of us feel good when we won our argument by abusing others..
``but the reality is...we r propogating \'their\' abusive behaviour...
``we r their soldiers...

``worst still when these soldiers start showing off their superiority to other bod...
``bullying men, women n children into submission...
``not with their superior knowledge but with profanity...

``cyberwarfare is not just about hacking, spamming, etc.. etc...
``more importantly is how they conquer our mindset in cyberspace...
``r we a willing partner or hv we been defeated?...

``if military culture is the xcuse...

``maybe we shud think again n find out which military we r referring to...

``hope yipun can honor us with her valuable input as the mod...

``someone from KAGAT maybe... \"BERJUANG BERAKHLAK\"........

``harap dapat bagi pandangan untuk kesedaran bersama....... tq


p/s shud we leave the mat rempit alone bcoz it\'s their culture?..

alphawolf

Honestly bro, if you have grumbles with a particular forumner, why don't u use the PM function...please don't try to bait or start a flame war here. TQ

kip

Originally posted by alphawolf at 27-11-2006 09:08 AM
Honestly bro, if you have grumbles with a particular forumner, why don\'t u use the PM function...please don\'t try to bait or start a flame war here. TQ

``honestly bro..
``there is no grumbles..
``disagreement is what forum is all about..
``as long as we can be open n not emotional about it..

``if i offended anybody..
``let me say it now.. i\'m sorry.. from the bottom of my heart..

``but bro..
``what we r discussing here is important.. at least to me..
``that is why i wish to hear from the other forumers..
``i might not have enough understanding to know what is going on..

``but again bro if u feel that this is improper..
``feel free to delete it..

my, my, my... stalking eh?? Gay and have the hots for me?? :lol

alphawolf

Disagreement is the root of forums and discussions...but not personal feelings towards another forumner.

Careful... he might accuse you of being UNprofessional... ha! ha!

kip

``tq mat for dropping by..
``mod seems to think that we hv a feud or something..
``if i offended u in any way.. let me say now, i\\\'m sorry...
``actually kitorang bgurau senda je mod... benda kecik je dah tutup pon..

``what i\\\'m saying is bigger than mat or me..
``we r nothing compared to the thousands of people visiting this forum in cyberspace ..
``this is where the psywar is taking place..
``where students n children will be exposed to differing values..
``if it is  in private or outside of public domain, there is no issue..

``back to d topic of discussions...
``r we abandoning our way n r we adopting the abusive methodology for a reason?..
``if there is a reason maybe u can share it with us..

``if not we tend to believe that u r propogating other people\\\'s  ideology..  
``which i don\\\'t think u r.. much to the disappointment of deb n nick...

``bagi la opinion sket mat..

[ Last edited by  kip at 27-11-2006 11:32 AM ]

Everyone else seems to think you're stalking me...

zenslack

ahhh pening aku baca ada `` tolong strip `` tu baru senang forumer nak baca ... ni nettiquette

the_khan

Waalaikumussalam, most of the times i will not bother myself replied to this kind of posting but when i saw my darling Yipun name been mentioned, i'll have to justify few things here.

When you join a public forum, sometimes people can write something that you may find offensive. Before launching into a public condemnation though, please consider that the person may not have intended to cause offence. It is very easy to misinterpret a post on forums. There is absolutely no need to resort to stalkings. Respect others' views even if you disagree with them.

If ethics are codes of personal and community conduct, then etiquette is a code of social conduct. Etiquette is defined as --the practices and forms prescribed by social convention or by authority; forms of conduct prescribed by polite society; code of correct conduct; also decorum denotes conformity with established standards of manners or behavior; the forms required by good breeding, or prescribed by authority, to be observed in social or official life; observance of the proprieties of rank and occasion; conventional decorum; ceremonial code of polite society; rules governing acceptable behavior.

From where i see your thread here, its more to personal grudge based on your encounter with certain forumner from this board, in the other board.

If you think your opiniion does matter, why can't you accept the fact that everyone have different style and flair in expressing their opinion.  This is not childish forum where every sentences will be lace with excuse me, I'm sorry, I beg your pardon etc.

If you don't like others posting, just leave it be.  Don't be a sissy with all your complaints and whining.

[ Last edited by  the_khan at 27-11-2006 04:07 PM ]

kip

Originally posted by zenslack at 27-11-2006 03:42 PM
ahhh pening aku baca ada `` tolong strip `` tu baru senang forumer nak baca ... ni nettiquette

tq for pointing that out..
is this better now?....   :tq:

kip

Originally posted by mat_toro at 27-11-2006 03:29 PM
Everyone else seems to think you\'re stalking me...

stalk ko for what?..
encem pon sket je.. tak la encem sangat..
drpd aku stalk ko baik aku stalk yipun  lagi ada faedah..
tak jadi keje la nak stalk orang.. jgn percaya sangat cakap orang..
kalu sng nak stalk org nih dah lama dah ko nyer sparring partner yg dolu2 dah stalk ko dah..
don\'t worry laa..

but i  hv those honest question that maybe ko bleh bagi some opinion lah..
itupon kalu ko sudi.. kalu tak it\'s ok... no big deal...

kip

Originally posted by the_khan at 27-11-2006 04:03 PM
If you think your opiniion does matter, why can\'t you accept the fact that everyone have different style and flair in expressing their opinion.  This is not childish forum where every sentences will be lace with excuse me, I\'m sorry, I beg your pardon etc.

If you don\'t like others posting, just leave it be.  Don\'t be a sissy with all your complaints and whining.

hi khan...
tq for ur contribution..
ur whining n complaints are noted.

the_khan

Originally posted by kip at 27-11-2006 06:32 PM


hi khan...
tq for ur contribution..
ur whining n complaints are noted.

ditto spoilt brat :nerd:

kip

Originally posted by the_khan at 27-11-2006 06:36 PM



ditto spoilt brat :nerd:

tq bro..

p/s: tak le spoilt sangat.. sket laa...
       yg lain tuh usha sendrik lorr...

possubH2

ELO GENG, KO SEDARA F13 HEH?

standupper

Lama tak dengar nama tuh... hidup lagi ker? :bgrin:

Originally posted by kip at 27-11-2006 06:24 PM


stalk ko for what?..
encem pon sket je.. tak la encem sangat..
drpd aku stalk ko baik aku stalk yipun  lagi ada faedah..
tak jadi keje la nak stalk orang.. jgn percaya sangat cakap orang..
...

not until I'm convinced you're not a homosexual serial rapist...