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WHY IS JESUS NOT GOD IN THE OLD TESTAMENT?
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Post Last Edit by jfreemanns at 10-2-2011 16:29
I AM REALLY CONFUSED AS TO WHY JESUS CANNOT BE FOUND ANYWHERE IN THE OLD TESTAMENT AS GOD. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ASSIST ME ON THIS MATTER? THANK YOU GRACIOUSLY AND MAY GOD ALMIGHTY JESUS CHRIST..THE LAMB AND REDEEMER OF MAN BLESS YOUR KIND SOUL.
JFREEMANNS
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Jesus is God in the whole of the Bible. He is all over the Old Testament.
DavidW Post at 10-2-2011 16:27 
OH...THANK YOU DAVID FOR THE LINK..... STRANGE TO SEE THAT YOU GAVE ME THE SAME LINK THAT DEBMEY DID OVER IN RF FORUM.
JFREEMANNS
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Really? Can you show me where your friend Debmey did that? |
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Jesus is God in the whole of the Bible. He is all over the Old Testament.
DavidW Post at 10-2-2011 16:27 
where its stated loud and clear JESUS IS GOD in ot? where?  |
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no JESUS IS GOD in torah too  |
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Reply 1# jfreemanns
I AM REALLY CONFUSED AS TO WHY JESUS CANNOT BE FOUND ANYWHERE IN THE OLD TESTAMENT AS GOD. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE ASSIST ME ON THIS MATTER? THANK YOU GRACIOUSLY AND MAY GOD ALMIGHTY JESUS CHRIST..THE LAMB AND REDEEMER OF MAN BLESS YOUR KIND SOUL.
He is not found or you did not know???
First, He appeared to Abraham with two angels with Him.
Then, He wrestle with Jacob for a day... and then......
DA 3:25 He said, "Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods."
Daniel 7:13 "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.
So, is Jesus God in the Old Testaments.... I think the answer is YES.
Regards... |
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Amen brother, Jesus is all over the Old Testament! Only the blind cannot see. |
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Post Last Edit by jfreemanns at 12-2-2011 11:02
Amen brother, Jesus is all over the Old Testament! Only the blind cannot see.
DavidW Post at 12-2-2011 00:26 
All those are mere creative expressions meant to try superimpose Jesus in the OT. Don't work Davidebbo!! You have to show Jesus exists as Jesus as God....nothing else counts to support your argument. To make you better understand see the below.....

......this is how you are looking for Jesus in the OT. You TRY TO IMAGINE HE IS THERE.
JFREEMANNS
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Already shown you. But you are blind jfreemann. You choose to be blind. |
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Already shown you. But you are blind jfreemann. You choose to be blind.
DavidW Post at 12-2-2011 23:56 
Instead of bothering about "blindness" in anybody you should be more bothered as to why you cannot prove Jesus of the NT to be as Jesus as God in the OT. I think that is truly either blinding ignorance or blinding denial. Which "blind" do you prefer in describing yourself Davidebbo?
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Its already proven. The problem is, you did not even read. |
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Its already proven. The problem is, you did not even read.
DavidW Post at 13-2-2011 08:48 
What is proven Davidebbo? Are you making point over Kompia's post? In those verses given by Kompia.....do they write the name Jesus in them as God? We are not considering verses that kind of attach the Jesus aura to a possible similiarity or probability rendering. Just because some verses mention the "Son of Man" or "son of the Gods"... we cannot construe them to be Jesus. And of the part of wrestling Jacob...well sorry to have to break it to you but Kompia got confused in his delivery....it wasn't Jesus wrestling with Jacob.... that job went to Gabriel. Unless of course you want to take Gabriel for Jesus...be my guest. At the rate you Christians are moving .... just working your arses so hard to cover up lies in the Bible.... even Jack Sparrow might stand a hearty chance of being a "son of God" in the Bible ehhh me matey!!!!
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Are you telling us that you did not read the evidence given? |
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Are you telling us that you did not read the evidence given?
DavidW Post at 13-2-2011 22:09 
What "evidence" Davidebbo? You guys got nothing. You're just running on empty making stupid flexes for something that is not there to support your muscle flexing. You guys cannot answer this question for sure. Nobody from Indoctrination Old School can. Even Kompia got all confused in his quest to prove that Jesus existed in the Old Testament to the point Kompia in post #12 confused Jesus for Gabriel in the wrestling bout with Jacob. I guess I can kinda gauge your debate worth and strength in propping Jesus as your Strawman God in the Old Testament. Where shall you go from here??
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Surely you have not read what kompia and I posted.
So what are you doing here wasting your time jfreemann? |
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He is not found or you did not know???
First, He appeared to Abraham wi ...
DA 3:25 He said, "Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods."
Daniel 7:13 "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.
kompia23 Post at 11-2-2011 21:49 
did the name JESUS CHRIST specifically mentioned in ot?  |
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No, the name Jesus was adopted when he was born.
Was Allah specifically mentioned in the Bible? |
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No, the name Jesus was adopted when he was born.
how then do you know its JESUS CHRIST whos being described in ot?
Was Allah specifically mentioned in the Bible?
DavidW Post at 14-2-2011 15:48 
use your grey matter dude. how can muslim allah in the bible? knock knock  |
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Reply 24# sonny~~
how then do you know its JESUS CHRIST whos being described in ot?
Didn't you follow the thread and read the link provided?
Was Allah specifically mentioned in the Bible?
DavidW Post at 14-2-2011 15:48 
use your grey matter dude. how can muslim allah in the bible? knock knock 
That's right, that's why Allah don't exists. |
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