Architecture

MsJaneDoe

Originally posted by Azhargoth at 28-8-2006 11:43 AM
aha...aku x-itm..la uitm..badge 96...Fleurza..dari apa yang aku tengok ko wat sketch tu ...apa kata ko try software ni.."Sketchup" ko goggle dan download..free version pon ada...very..ver ...

Amm..enche Azhargoth dak FSPU ka..?? Archi ke ID..?? Super duper seniorr nih..heheh..

[ Last edited by  MsJaneDoe at 3-9-2006 12:12 AM ]

MsJaneDoe

Originally posted by skuter_buruk146 at 24-6-2006 02:44 PM

ooo..aku jadi konfius jap sebab bagi budak-budak architect atau seangkatan dengannye,studio tue salah satu subjek diorang.Every sem kene wat studio tue,kire design satu bangunan,dengan konsep,pla ...

In my xperience memang cemtuh laa..siap buat cam umah sendiri..even worst..jadi cam setinggan dah studio ktorang.. bertutup2 bawah meje (port tidur) tuh ngan kain batik segale..hahaha..bau ashem jangan ceriter laa.. ituh lum kire nk dkat submission/presentation..jd kapal tongkang pecah laa jwbnye..cemane diorg leh wat keje in tat environment tattaw laa..I x sggp nk wat keje cenggituh.. lebey rela wat keje kat kolej jek.. x yah control2 ayu.. x yah pakei tudung.. x pakei baju pun x pe.. wakakaka..

Tp bbdak..biaselaa tuh..x matang lagik..tp kalu u (fluersza) wat research on profesional studio, ok nyer laa.. nway..which studio have u gone for research so far..??

fleurzsa

Originally posted by MsJaneDoe at 3-9-2006 12:25 AM
In my xperience memang cemtuh laa..siap buat cam umah sendiri..even worst..jadi cam setinggan dah studio ktorang.. bertutup2 bawah meje (port tidur) tuh ngan kain batik segale..hahaha..bau ashe ...

Sebab I bidang pendidikan, buat kajian ttg studio seni di sekolah2.  Hasilnya dpt diaplikasikan di sekolah nanti.  

Lokasinya... biar la rahsia he he he he he

MsJaneDoe

Originally posted by fleurzsa at 3-9-2006 10:33 AM


Sebab I bidang pendidikan, buat kajian ttg studio seni di sekolah2.  Hasilnya dpt diaplikasikan di sekolah nanti.  

Lokasinya... biar la rahsia he he he he he

Ooo..ok..mm..I think besides the studio dsign itself byk lg aspects yg u bleh research..u nk dsign studio utk dak skolah kan..?? sekolah rendah or menengah..?? kalu rendah maybe u bleh focus kat argonomic and anthropometric ke.. psychological environment pun kalu ade memang wow.. cos dak sek rendah nih kene tgk gak environment dorg..br sonok diorg dlm studio.. n mayb u bleh proposed new method of teaching art..macamane u nk relate d activities in the class ngan ur studio dsign.. just my 2 cents..

fleurzsa

Originally posted by MsJaneDoe at 3-9-2006 11:41 AM
Ooo..ok..mm..I think besides the studio dsign itself byk lg aspects yg u bleh research..u nk dsign studio utk dak skolah kan..?? sekolah rendah or menengah..?? kalu rendah maybe u bleh focus  ...

Good points there.... thanks

Nanti kalo ada apa2 perkembangan menarik I citer kat u.

MsJaneDoe

Ok.. ;p  Im waiting..

promulgate

Originally posted by fleurzsa at 3-9-2006 10:33 AM


Sebab I bidang pendidikan, buat kajian ttg studio seni di sekolah2.  Hasilnya dpt diaplikasikan di sekolah nanti.  

Lokasinya... biar la rahsia he he he he he

Perrghh.... Menarik gila... perrghh~!!! Ninoz still lepak kat sini lagi ker.... thank you some of your articles.. aku blajar banyak dari ngko especialy on vernacular architecture.. thank you so much~!!!! :tq:

Kalau ada Note Note yang bagus kongsi laaa... pandagan tentang bangunan... dari aku dulu lagi aku memang minat Norman Foster dia punya design perrgghhh~!!! Buat aku menangis lawooo siot... aku suka style dia... ada buku pasal Norman Foster kat Lab tempat aku.. aku pinjam sampai berbulan bulan wakakakakakakka.... puas membacanya.

[ Last edited by  promulgate at 4-9-2006 10:19 PM ]

MsJaneDoe

Saje nk tepek pasal pyramid..

Pyramid
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is about architectural pyramids. For other versions including the polyhedron pyramid, see Pyramid (disambiguation). Pyramids are among the largest man-made constructions as well as one of the great Wonders of the ancient world.

Egyptian pyramids

  
The most famous are the Egyptian pyramids ? huge pyramids built of brick or stone, some of which are among the largest man-made constructions, constitute one of the most potent and enduring symbols of Ancient Egyptian civilization.

Pyramids functioned as tombs for pharaohs. The Great Pyramid of Giza is the largest in Egypt and one of the largest in the world. It is one of the Seven Wonders of the World, and the only one of the seven to survive into modern times. The ancient Egyptians capped the peaks of their pyramids with gold and covered their faces with polished white limestone, though many of the stones used for the purpose have fallen or been removed for other structures over the millennia.

The putative inspirations for Egypt's pyramids are themselves a subject of ancient and ongoing debate. Some Egyptologists have seen King Zoser's Step Pyramid as a symbolic representation of ancient Egypt's stratified society. A more recent hypothesis by Patricia Blackwell Gary and Richard Talcott ("Stargazing in Ancient Egypt," Astronomy, June 2006, pp. 62-67) derives the shapes of the pyramid and of the obelisk from natural phenomena associated with the sun (the sun-god Re being the Egyptians' greatest deity). The pyramid and obelisk would have been inspired by previously overlooked astronomical phenomena connected with sunrise and sunset: the zodiacal light and Sun pillars, respectively.

The pyramids of Egypt, among the largest constructions ever built by man, [1], constitute one of the most potent and enduring symbols of Ancient Egyptian civilization. It is generally accepted by most archaeologists that they were constructed as burial monuments associated with royal solar and stellar cults, and most were built during the Old and Middle Kingdom periods[2].

Historic development

  The Great Pyramid of Giza in a 19th century photo

By the time of the early Dynastic period of Egyptian history, those with sufficient means were buried in visually unremarkable bench-like structures known as mastabas.  
  The Mastaba

The first historically documented Egyptian pyramid is attributed to the architect Imhotep, who in constructing what Egyptologists believe to be a tomb for the pharaoh Djozer, it is theorised first conceived the notion of stacking a number of mastabas on top of each other ? thereby creating an edifice comprised of a number of steps that decreased in size towards its apex. The result was the Step Pyramid of Djozer ? which was designed to serve as a gigantic stairway by which the soul of the deceased pharaoh could ascend to the heavens. Such was the importance of Imhotep's achievement that he was deified by later Egyptians.
   The Step Pyramid

Each of the pyramids had its own name, such as the Pyramid of Teti was known as Teti's cult places are enduring, later the pyramid complexes surrounding the main structures had separate names. Most pyramids have since been given Arabic names by the locals, which usually reflect their appearance.

The most prolific pyramid-building phase coincided with the greatest degree of absolutist pharaonic rule, during the early part of the Old Kingdom. Over time, as the exercise of pharaonic authority became less centralised and more bureaucratised, the ability and willingness to harness the resources required for construction on a massive scale was reduced, and later pyramids were smaller, less well built and often hastily constructed.

Long after the end of Egypt's own pyramid-building period, a burst of pyramid-building occurred in what is present-day Sudan, after much of Egypt came under the rule of the Kings of Napata. Whilst Napatan rule was brief and ceased in 661 BCE, the Egyptian influence made an indelible impression, and during the later Sudanese Kingdom of Meroe (approximately in the period between 300 BCE?E 300) this flowered into a full-blown pyramid-building revival, which saw more than two hundred uniquely indigenous, but strongly Egyptian-inspired royal pyramid tombs constructed in the vicinity of the Meroitic capital city.

Construction

The techniques used to construct Egypt's pyramids are thought to have initially been developed by trial and error, and then further evolved based on local economics, resources, and other considerations, over the thousand year pyramid-building phase of Egyptian civilization. At first, what we now know as pyramids were actually step pyramids, which eventually became more complex by filling the empty steps. This created the sloped sides.

Recently-discovered worker's tombs have shown how pyramids were made and how important workers were: the pyramid workers were paid craftsmen, not slaves, and they had their own city at Giza. Egyptologists also have presented several pieces of evidence showing this, including proof that many laborers worked on the Pyramids during periods of Nile flooding when farming and harvesting were impossible. Contributing to the Pyramid construction was, religiously, a very good deed for them.

During the earliest period, in the Third and Fourth Dynasties, pyramids were constructed wholly of stone. In the Fifth Dynasty the physical scale of pyramids was much reduced, and poor quality limestone replaced granite as the chief building material. In?illing with loose rubble was also used for the first time. This enabled pyramids to be built with fewer resources over much shorter periods.

During the Middle Kingdom pyramid construction techniques changed again. Most pyramids built at this time were little more than mountains of mud brick encased in a veneer of polished limestone.

The materials and methods of construction used in the earliest pyramids have ensured their survival in a generally much better state of preservation than is the case with the pyramid monuments of later pharaohs.

Pyramid symbolism

The shape of Egyptian pyramids is thought to represent the primordial mound from which the Egyptians believed the earth was created. The shape is also thought to be representative of the descending rays of the sun, and most pyramids were faced with polished, highly reflective white limestone, in order to give them a brilliant appearance when viewed from a distance. Pyramids were often also named in ways that made reference to solar luminescence. For example, the formal name of the Bent Pyramid at Dahshur was The Southern Shining Pyramid, and that of Senwosret at el-Lahun was Senwosret is Shining.

  The Bent pyramid

While it is generally agreed that pyramids were burial monuments, there is continued disagreement on the particular theological principles that might have given rise to them. One theory that has gained a degree of acceptance is that they were designed as a type of "resurrection machine"; the Egyptians believed the dark area of the night sky around which the stars appear to revolve was the physical gateway into the heavens, and one of the narrow shafts that extends from the main burial chamber through the entire body of the Great Pyramid points directly towards the centre of this part of the sky. This suggests the pyramid may have been designed to serve as a means to magically launch the deceased pharaoh's soul directly into the abode of the gods.

Most Egyptian pyramids were built (with the exception of the small step pyramid at Zawyet el-Maiyitin, near Al Minya) on the west bank of the Nile, which as the site of the setting sun was associated with the realm of the dead in Egyptian mythology.

sambung..

MsJaneDoe

Pyramid sites

The number of pyramid structures in Egypt today is reported by most sources as being between 80 and 110, with a majority favouring the higher number. In 1842 Lepsius made a list of pyramids, in which he counted 67, although more have been identified and discovered since his time. The reason for the imprecise nature of the count appears related to the fact that as many smaller pyramids are in a poor state of preservation and appear as little more than mounds of rubble, they are only now being properly identified and studied by archaeologists. Most are grouped in a number of pyramid fields, the most important of which are listed geographically, from north to south, below.

Abu Rawash

Abu Rawash is the site of Egypt's most northerly pyramid other than the ruins of Lepsius pyramid number one? the mostly ruined Pyramid of Djedefre, the son and successor of Khufu. Originally it was thought that this pyramid had never been completed, but the current archaeological consensus is that not only was it completed, but that it was originally about the same size as the Pyramid of Menkaure ? the third largest of the Giza pyramids. On this basis Djedefre's edifice would have claimed the title of the fourth or fifth largest pyramid in Egypt.

Unfortunately its location adjacent to a major crossroads made it an easy source of stone, and quarrying ? which began in Roman times ? continued until as recently as the early 20th century. Today little remains apart from a few courses of stone superimposed upon the natural hillock that formed part of the pyramid's core ? although a small adjacent satellite pyramid is in a better state of preservation.

Giza


[size=-1]The Giza pyramid field, viewed from the south-west. Dominating the picture from foreground to background are the Pyramids of Menkaure, Khafre and Khufu.

Giza, on the southern outskirts of Cairo is the location of the Pyramid of Khufu (also known as the "Great Pyramid" and the "Pyramid of Cheops" ) , the somewhat smaller Pyramid of Khafre (or Kephren), and the relatively modest-sized Pyramid of Menkaure (or Mykerinus), along with a number of smaller satellite edifices, known as "queens" pyramids, and the Great Sphinx.

  Great Pyramid of Giza was the world's tallest building from ~2570 BC to ~1300 AD. *


  The Pyramid of Khafre and the Great Sphinx of Giza


  The Pyramid of Menkaure

Of the three, only Khafre's pyramid retains part of its original polished limestone casing, towards its apex. Interestingly this pyramid appears larger than the adjacent Khufu pyramid by virtue of its more elevated location, and the steeper angle of inclination of its construction ? it is, in fact, smaller in both height and volume.

The Giza Necropolis has arguably been the world's most popular tourist destination since antiquity, and was popularised in Hellenistic times when the Great Pyramid was listed by Antipater of Sidon as one of the Seven Wonders of the World. Today it is the only one of the ancient Wonders still in existence.

Zawyet el-Aryan

This site, half way between Giza and Abu Sir, is the location for two unfinished Old Kingdom pyramids. The northern structure's owner is believed to be the Pharaoh Nebka, whilst the southern structure is attributed to the Third Dynasty Pharaoh Khaba, also known as Hudjefa, successor to Sekhemkhet). Khaba's four-year tenure as pharaoh more than likely explains the similar premature truncation of his step pyramid. Today it is approximately twenty metres in height; had it been completed it is likely to have exceeded forty

Abu Sir

There are a total of seven pyramids at this site, which served as the main royal necropolis during the Fifth Dynasty. The quality of construction of the Abu Sir pyramids is inferior to those of the Fourth Dynasty ? perhaps signalling a decrease in royal power or a less vibrant economy. They are smaller than their predecessors, and are built of low quality local limestone.

The three major pyramids are those of Niuserre (which is also the most intact), Neferirkare Kakai and Sahure. The site is also home to the incomplete Pyramid of Neferefre. All of the major pyramids at Abu Sir were built as step pyramids, although the largest of them ? the Pyramid of Neferirkare Kakai ? is believed to have originally been built as a step pyramid some seventy metres in height and then later transformed into a "true" pyramid by having its steps filled in with loose masonry.

Saqqara

  The Step Pyramid of Djozer

Major pyramids here include the Step Pyramid of Djozer ? the world's oldest monumental stone building ? the Pyramid of Userkaf and the Pyramid of Teti. Also at Saqqara is the Pyramid of Unas, which retains a pyramid causeway that is amongst the best-preserved in Egypt. This pyramid was also the subject of one of antiquities' earliest restoration attempts, conducted under the auspices of one of the sons of Ramesses II. Saqqara is also the location of the incomplete step pyramid of Djozer's successor Sekhemkhet, known as the Buried Pyramid. Archaeologists believe that had this pyramid been completed it would have been larger than Djozer's.

Dahshur

This area is arguably the most important pyramid field in Egypt outside Giza and Saqqara, although until 1996 the site was inaccessible due to its location within a military base, and hence was virtually unknown outside archaeological circles.

  Sneferu's Bent Pyramid at Dashur, taken from the eastern side of the Red Pyramid

The southern Pyramid of Sneferu, commonly known as the Bent Pyramid is believed to be the first (or by some accounts, second) attempt at creating a pyramid with smooth sides. In this it was only a partial ? but nonetheless visually arresting ? success; it remains the only Egyptian pyramid to retain a significant proportion of its original limestone casing, and serves as the best example of the luminous appearance common to all pyramids in their original state.

  Red Pyramid was the world's tallest building from ~2600 BC to ~2570 BC

The northern, or Red Pyramid built at the same location by Sneferu was later successfully completed as the world's first true smooth-sided pyramid. Despite its relative obscurity, the Red Pyramid is actually the third largest pyramid in Egypt ? after the pyramids of Khufu and Khafre at Giza. Also at Dahshur is the pyramid known as the Black Pyramid of Amenemhet III.

Mazghuna

Located to the south of Dahshur, this area was used in the First Intermediate Period by several kings who constructed their pyramids out of mudbrick. Today these structures are obscure and unimpressive.

Lisht

   The ruined Pyramid of Amenemhet I at Lisht

Two major pyramids are known to have been built at Lisht ? those of Amenemhat I and his son, Senusret I. The latter is surrounded by the ruins of ten smaller subsidiary pyramids. The site which is in the vicinity of the oasis of Fayyum, midway between Dahshur and Meidum, and about 100 kilometres south of Cairo, is believed to be in the vicinity of the ancient city of Itjtawy (the precise location of which remains unknown), which served as the capital of Egypt during the 12th Dynasty.

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MsJaneDoe

Meidum


Sneferu's Pyramid at Meidum; the central core structure remains, surrounded by a mountain of rubble from the collapsed outer casing

The pyramid at Meidum is one of three constructed during the reign of Sneferu, and is believed by some to have been commenced by that pharaoh's father and predecessor, Huni. However, this is not very likely, as his name does not appear on the site. Some archaeologists also suggest that the Meidum pyramid may have been the first unsuccessful attempt at the construction of a "true" or smooth-sided pyramid.

The pyramid suffered a catastrophic collapse in antiquity, and today only the central parts of its stepped inner core remain standing, giving it an odd tower-like appearance that is unique among Egyptian pyramids. The hill that the pyramid sits atop is not a natural landscape feature ? it is in fact the small mountain of debris created when the lower courses and outer casing of the pyramid gave way.

One face of the pyramid at Meidum collapsed and was shorn off around the year 2600 BC, during the placement of its outer walls. The Meidum pyramid was a true pyramid, a tetrahedron, whereas Djoser's pyramid was a step pyramid, made of stacked rectangular mastabas. At the Meidum pyramid, the buttresses were not extended to include the structurally significant outer casing.

This addition of the limestone casing without sideways structural support proved fatal, and massive rubble mounds can still be seen beneath the base of the pyramid today. Following this disaster, the builders must have reevaluated their method. The success of Djoser's pyramid and the failure of the one at Meidum laid out a blueprint followed for the remainder of pyramid construction in Egypt.

It has been suggested that the collapse occurred while construction was underway on the Bent Pyramid at Dahshur (also built by Sneferu), and that this may have been one of the reasons for the design changes implemented during construction of the latter edifice. About 50 meters off the ground, the angle of ascent abruptly changes. Some experts have theorised that the builders of the Bent Pyramid changed their construction techniques after learning of the failure at Meidum. Since there are no known collapses of pyramids built after Meidum, we can surmise that innovations ? and the disastrous results when these ideas were not followed ? were effective lessons. When a structure fails it does so because of an error in design, and oftentimes this design flaw can be recognised and fixed; pyramids built later than Meidum demonstrate inward slanting of the outer casing. Later architects seem to have understood that the limestone covering of their pyramids held significance in structure as well as aesthetics.

Hawarra

  The Pyramid of Amenemhet III at Hawarra

Amenemhet III was the last powerful ruler of the 12th Dynasty, and the pyramid he built at Hawarra, near Faiyum, is believed to post-date the so-called "Black Pyramid" built by the same ruler at Dahshur. It is the Hawarra pyramid that is believed to have been Amenemhet's final resting place.

el-Lahun

  The Pyramid of Senusret II. The pyramid's natural limestone core is clearly visible as the yellow stratum at its base.

The pyramid of Senusret II at el-Lahun is the southernmost royal-tomb pyramid structure in Egypt. Its builders reduced the amount of work necessary to construct it by ingeniously using as its foundation and core a 12 metre high natural limestone hill.

MsJaneDoe

List of ancient pyramids by country
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article lists ancient pyramids by country.

China
  The Chinese pyramids


Egypt
-The Pyramids of Giza, which include:
  Menkaure's Pyramid
  Khafre's Pyramid
  The Great Pyramid

-The pyramids at Dahshur
  The Bent Pyramid
  The Red Pyramid
  The Black Pyramid
  The Pyramid at Meidun

France
  The Pyramid of Falicon

Greece
  The Pyramid of Hellinikon

Iran
  The Ziggurat of Sialk
  The Ziggurat of Chogha Zanbil

Italy
  The Pyramid of Gaius Cestius, Porta San Paolo, Rome

Mesopotamia (Iraq)
  The Ziggurat of Ur
  The Hanging gardens of Babylon

Mexico
    The Great Pyramid of Cholula, Puebla

Polynesia
  The Star Pyramid or Pulemelei Mound, Samoa
  The Marae of Mahaiate, Tahiti

Spain
  The Pyramids of G??ar, Tenerife, Canary Islands

Sudan
  The Nubian pyramids

Dubious Ancient Pyramids

Bosnia & Herzegovina
  The Bosnian pyramid (pyramid-shaped hill)

Caribbean
  Sunken pyramids have been claimed to be found near Bimini and Cuba, and are associated with the possible location of  Atlantis.

Japan
  The Yonaguni sunken pyramid

Mars
  The Martian Pyramids

MsJaneDoe

Modern pyramids

Pyramids have occasionally been used in Christian architecture of the feudal era, e.g. as the tower of Oviedo's Gothic Cathedral of San Salvador. In some cases this leads to speuculations on masonic or other symbolical intentions.

An example of a modern pyramid can be found in Paris, France, in front of the Louvre Museum. The Louvre Pyramid is a 20.6 meter (about 70 feet) glass structure which acts as an entrance to the museum. It was designed by the American architect I. M. Pei and completed in 1989.

The Transamerica Pyramid in Downtown San Francisco, California.

The 32-story Pyramid Arena in Memphis, Tennessee (built in 1991) was the home court for the University of Memphis men's basketball program, and the National Basketball Association's Memphis Grizzlies until 2004.

The Walter Pyramid, home of the basketball and volleyball teams of the California State University, Long Beach, campus in California, United States, is an 18-story-tall blue pyramid.

The Luxor Hotel in Las Vegas, United States, is a 30-story pyramid with light beaming from the top.

The Summum Pyramid, a 3 story pyramid in Salt Lake City, Utah, used for instruction in the Summum philosophy and conducting rites associated with Modern Mummification.

  The Louvre Pyramid, a modern pyramid built as a feature of glass with a black inner pyramid and as an entrance to the Louvre Museum in Paris.

  The Pyramid Arena in Memphis, Tennessee.

  Luxor Hotel in Las Vegas.

  The Walter Pyramid in Long Beach, California

  The Summum Pyramid in Salt Lake City, Utah

Azhargoth

Originally posted by fleurzsa at 30-8-2006 11:59 AM


Thanks... memang berguna pun...  really appreciated it..

Bukan apa, dlm Malaysia ni memang belum ada buku2 mengenai studio seni dan aspek2 yg berkaitan dgnnya.  Terbitan luar negeri ada la.
...

tak payah jumpa..aku pon selalu on the move..aku pos je..sorry for the late reply...j

Azhargoth

Originally posted by MsJaneDoe at 3-9-2006 12:10 AM



Amm..enche Azhargoth dak FSPU ka..?? Archi ke ID..?? Super duper seniorr nih..heheh..

FSPU..haha? yup dulu KSPU...aku Archi...budak archi ke ko?

MsJaneDoe

Saye ID..tp ade gak kamcing buddy dak archi..apapepun tabik kat senior..

Azhargoth

hehe...so studio korang still 1st floor ngadap ampitheater tu ke, nostalgia oo..time ada "archi fest" buat kat situ tiap sems...lama ooo aku tak masuk uitm (last tahun 1999)...ada perubahan ke sana..studio budak2 archi mcm tongkang pecah lagi ke??haha..ada tak lect. ID yang sezaman gan aku ..sebab aku dengar cerita ada member2 ID yang dah jadi Lect kat situ, for sure kat Tronoh mmg dah ada sornag sebab dah terjumpa..

MsJaneDoe

Hohoho..harus archifest korang mengaco kitorang..wahahaha..tgh crit boleh buat launching bagai..bab lecturer tuh..x amik tau sangat..tp ade sorg lecturer archi paling mude - wan Azhar..famous gak die tuh..dak ID, dak QS ramei kenal die tuh.. neway..sekang tgh in progress buat blok baru kat FSPU nih.. utk bdak blok C..sbb dengaonye dak archi nak conquer the whole block A n B..hampeh tul..dak studio based len kene pindah block C laa agaknye..

ps..lg sorg lecturer yg selalu my archi frens mention..wan Zul..mesti kenal kan..??

Azhargoth

Mau tak kenal kalau tak silap aku la Wan Azhar senior aku satu sems kalau tak silap (rambut kerinting sikit2 pakai spek, kecik2 orgnya), dia pon kenal aku tapi mentioned nama dia mungkin tak perasan sebab aku tak femes...haha..alahai cik wan zul  kamcing tuu...(SDP studio, Akitek Firm kelang)  (kecik-kecik jugak) lecturer cam kawan,,.....kim salam kat dia..hmm nak cakap apa haa..(kata ijan (mohizan)  kim salam..ijan mana? cakap geng2 naufal, Nan..practical kat Kamil Bardai Architect)...kalau la dpt jumpa ..hmmm...err ko ni berporum dari mana? rumah ke kat U?

MsJaneDoe

Saye kat umah nih..alaahaii..mane nak kenal ngan dak2 Ijan sape2 tuh..saye batch 2003 laa..br jek abis bln 5 ari tuh..saye kenal dak archi yg batch saye jek..batch anak Raja Bahrin tuh..yg Wan Azhar tuh..haa..yg kecik cenenot tuh laa..ramei x pueh ati ngan die dengaonye..huhuu..ngumpat lak..

Azhargoth

hehehe..its ok..Wan Azhar kuat rebel dulu..semua gila2..biasala zaman muda2..tapi he is good in design..oo..ok...so dah kerja ke?dekat sekesyen 3 dekat sebelah restoran khalifah (depan surau) tu ada satu firm ID..owns by one of the ITM lecturer..tak silap aku dia dulu president ke apa ke ID punya asscociation..wujud lagi ke?