V23: MH37 - PETUNJUK BARU KEPADA PENEMUAN MH370 ADAKAH BENAR..??

dahliateck

oo baru dpt baca tulisan wonbin, td dok baca org tulis wonbin igtkan apasal citer pasal retis korea

Nape?Tak caye?

cfa posted on 27-3-2014 11:20 AM
truly kata orang Malaysia terlebih drama..?
ohh.. orang China tu apa pulak? teriak melolong2,  ...

tu terlebih action

kelana36

fakta untuk refresher:

1. B777 tu , certified max altitude hanya lah 43000 kaki jer. kalau lah boleh di naikkan ke paras 45000 dari paras 35000 kaki, boleh capai average dalam 300 kaki seminit, jadi mengambil masa sekurang kurangnya 33 minit. dalam jangka masa tu, dah jauh masuk kedalam vietnam airspace.. Big long aiplane bukan macam fighter plane, boleh zoom up dari 35k to 45k in few second.

2. jika betul la berada kat paras 45000 kaki, oksigen dalam cabin circulating normally, like wise in the cockpit, tak ada masalah oksigen habis sehingga semua pengsan. Private jet yang kecik 2 tu boleh jer terbang jauh jauh pada paras sehingga 50000 kaki..tak perlu guna oksigen mask pun.

3. kalau berlaku rapid decompression, tak bermakna setiap orang itu akan pengsan serta merta..  ada lagi few minutes of usefull conciusness, boleh buat distress call atau descend to lower altutude to regain oxygen supply. Bukan macam kena cekik terus cut off oxygen supply.

4. dalam kes kes rapid decompression, pintu cockpit automatically unlock, as a safety feature.

cukup takat ni dulu, untuk buat reference kalau nak buat theory sendiri.

berancuk

teori kapitan jugak yang boleh pakai, bukan lebai

Dzeko

kelana36 posted on 28-3-2014 02:28 AM
fakta untuk refresher:

1. B777 tu , certified max altitude hanya lah 43000 kaki jer. kalau lah bo ...

tunggu next teori berdasarkan penerangan kaptain dari lobai teori..

harithzakuan

berancuk posted on 27-3-2014 11:56 PM
ahli matematik di lowyat udah mengirakan 4 tan  manggis itu tahan 27 hari satu purnama

Makan ma ...

fuyoo detail gilak kira..montah makan manggis..

Dzulqarnain

kelana36 posted on 28-3-2014 02:28 AM
fakta untuk refresher:

1. B777 tu , certified max altitude hanya lah 43000 kaki jer. kalau lah bo ...

Goodfellow kata, ada kemungkinan asap yg buat ramai pengsan
dan teori dia, naik 43k+ft tu utk memperlahankan kebakaran yg berlaku
berdasarkan saksi yg nampak di pantai timur dan pelantar
sama ada in-cargo, in-cokpit, in-cabin, etc. utk naik ke ruang oksigen rendah
- wlpn fully extinguished masa junam, asap still ada kot...

kelana36

Dzulqarnain posted on 27-3-2014 11:25 PM
Goodfellow kata, ada kemungkinan asap yg buat ramai pengsan
dan teori dia, naik 43k+ft tu utk mem ...

for big jetliner, memang ada possibility kena emergency like cabin, cockpit,cargo hold  ada smoke/fire.
dan semua jenis plane lebih kurang sama jer drill dia..

mula mula try to find the source of smoke or fore, try to fight it... banyak fire extinguisher dalam B777 tu.  if the source of smoke tak jumpa, still smoking, ada checklist nak buat apa next... lastly kena buat smoke removal drill, which is descend to 10000 feet, slow down, and open the cockpit window..  tak pernah jumpa mana mana plane pun yang emergency drill dia climb higher to reduce oxygen so that the fire suffocated... goes off... and at the same time reducing oxygen supply to the crew and passenggers as well.  api padam, semua oarng pun padam.. tak masuk akal kan..
further more, nak climb dari 35000 to 43000 tu pun berzaman juga ambik masa...  I think mr Goodfellow ni tak pernah bawak big jetliner kot.

berancuk

ha yang tu lebai yang muktabar sket

Dzulqarnain

kelana36 posted on 28-3-2014 03:49 AM
for big jetliner, memang ada possibility kena emergency like cabin, cockpit,cargo hold  ada smoke/ ...

Possible.

Apa pendapat sedara, fire yg visible dari darat?
- bole jd x due to explosion? Sbb ofkos inside-out mkn dia...

Kalo kes gini mcm mana drill dia?

Bateesta

Dzulqarnain posted on 28-3-2014 04:46 AM
Possible.

Apa pendapat sedara, fire yg visible dari darat?

malindo air yg semalam terbakar sebelah enjin pun steady je terbang , smpai boleh patah balik ke landasan

Dzulqarnain

Bateesta posted on 28-3-2014 05:40 AM
malindo air yg semalam terbakar sebelah enjin pun steady je terbang , smpai boleh patah balik ke l ...

Sbb witness kata bhgn ekor gtu kot
kt ekor rasanya xda enjin...

cloudy_83

poyohabis posted on 28-3-2014 02:34 AM
Kalo mcm tu pak najib paling bgs bab2 spin ni la yer abis negara maju jepun pun terpedaya... Satel ...

sape lagi kan.. tengok la sumber belakang dia tu.

i suka kalau spin2 dari u.k. ni. tengok sajalah cerita sherlock mereka, dr. who, detective poirot..

hzln

aduhhhhh...obama nak mai bulan 4 pun jadi bahan konspirashit mh370
mmg scheduled berjaman dah lah lawatan ke asia pasifik nih...akhir taun lepas lagi patut dah mai, tapi kensel sbb gomen shutdown kat sana masa tuh....hantaq john kerry jah

azie.dz

Morning..cek in dlm lrt awal ari ni huhuhu

kelana36

Dzulqarnain posted on 28-3-2014 12:46 AM
Possible.

Apa pendapat sedara, fire yg visible dari darat?

kalau kat bahagian ekor, kemungkinan dekat cargo compartment.... drill dia pun sama, descend untuk landing as soon as possible.. instead of wasting time climb to higher level..   ermmm agak sangsi sikit kalau boleh nampak sebarang api kebakaran dari darat kalau kapalterbang itu tinggi di udara, unless its a ball of fire yang besar dan kalau itu yg terjadi... senang jer nak cari debris sekitar laut china selatan tu.

kak_sue

More satellite images show possible debris as bad weather hampers search for MH370



PERTH (REUTERS) -
New satellite images emerged on Thursday showing what could be a large debris field from Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, as high winds and icy weather halted the air search for the missing plane in the Indian Ocean.

The latest possible sightings of wreckage from MH370, which went missing on March 8 with 239 people on board, were captured by Thai and Japanese satellites in roughly the same remote expanse of sea as earlier images reported by France, Australia and China.

"We detected floating objects, perhaps more than 300," Mr Anond Snidvongs, head of Thailand's space technology development agency, told Reuters.

A Japanese satellite also captured images of 10 objects which could be part of the plane, Kyodo news agency quoted the government as saying on Thursday.

An international search team of 11 military and civilian aircraft, as well as five ships had been heading for an area where more than 100 objects that could be from the Boeing 777 had been identified by French satellite pictures earlier this week, but severe weather forced the planes to turn back.

"The forecast in the area was calling for severe icing, severe turbulence and near-zero visibility," said Lieutenant Commander Adam Schantz, the officer in charge of the US Navy Poseidon P8 maritime surveillance aircraft detachment.

The Australian Maritime Safety Authority, which is coordinating the effort, confirmed that flights had been called off but said ships continued to search despite battering waves.

"It's the nature of search and rescue. It's a fickle beast," Flying Officer Peter Moore, the captain of an Australian AP-3C Orion, told Reuters aboard the plane. "This is incredibly important to us. The reality is we have 239 people whose families want some information and closure."

The objects spotted by the Thai satellite were between 2 metres and 16 metres in size and were in an area around 2,700 km south-west of Perth, Mr Snidvongs said.

The pictures were taken on Monday, a day after a satellite operated by France-based Airbus Defence & Space spotted 122 potential objects in a 400-sq-km area of ocean around 2,500 km south-west of the Western Australian city.

The pictures by the Japanese satellite were taken on Wednesday of debris about 2,500 km south-west of Perth, the biggest measuring 4 by 8 metres, a government official said.

The Malaysian airliner, on a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on March 8, is thought to have crashed in the Indian Ocean after diverting from its normal route.

The plane vanished from civilian radar screens less than an hour after take-off and investigators believe someone on board may have shut off the plane's communications systems. Theories range from a hijacking to sabotage or a possible suicide by one of the pilots, but investigators have not ruled out technical problems.

Partial military radar tracking showed the plane turning west off its scheduled course over the South China Sea and then recrossing the Malay Peninsula, apparently under the control of a skilled pilot.

The logistical difficulties of the search have been highlighted by the failure so far to get a lock on possible debris, despite the now numerous satellite images and direct visual sightings from aircraft and ships.

The area being searched by crews from Australia, the United States, New Zealand, China, Japan and South Korea has some of the deepest and roughest waters in the world.

One day had already been lost earlier this week because weather conditions were too dangerous, but Australia's Bureau of Meteorology said the forecast for Friday was better.

Recovery of wreckage could unlock clues about why and how the plane diverted so far off course in one of aviation's most puzzling mysteries.

The United States has sent an undersea Navy drone and a high-tech black box detector which will be fitted to an Australian ship due in Perth in the coming days.

The so-called black boxes - the cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder - record what happens during flight, but time is running out to pick up their locator beacons, which stop about a month after a crash due to limited battery life.

The prolonged and so far fruitless search and investigation have taken a toll, with dozens of distraught relatives of 153 Chinese passengers clashing with police and accusing Malaysia of "delays and deception".

China has repeatedly voiced its frustration with the efforts of Malaysia to find the plane. China's special envoy to Malaysia said on Thursday that Beijing was doing its best to push the South-east Asian nation to coordinate the international search effort, Xinhua news agency said.

Chinese insurance companies have started paying compensation to the families of passengers, Xinhua reported separately.

The family of Mr Paul Weeks, a New Zealander on board the Malaysia Airlines flight, said they had been angered by the way the airline has dealt with the families of passengers.

"The whole situation has been handled appallingly, incredible insensitivity, lack of information," Mr Weeks' sister, Sara, told Radio Live in New Zealand.

She said her brother's wife had only received a text message to say that her husband was presumed dead.


PS: Dari satellite dah nampak banyak debris....tapi visually tak nampak. Pelik kan?? Mungkin kah sekarang tenaga Tokmoh dgn teropong buloh nya di-perlukan??

hzln

Changa posted on 27-3-2014 08:00 PM
itu lah sis.
akak amat terkejut tahap level pemikiran ummah di sini.
taraf felda pprt sangat!!!: ...

malam tadi saya hampir pitam baca di fb penganut agama konspirashit...misi sar di laut china selatan dan selat melaka doubles up as misi mencari "sesuatu khazanah yg tak ternilai" di hutan gunung tahan....kena guna pesawat utk cari sbb kalu on foot tak bulih, sbb sekelilingnya diapit oleh kem tentera negara kiri kanan depan belakang, sebab kita dah tau lama ada khazanah berharga di situ sbb tu pacak kem askar siap2.....ntah saya pun tatau menatang apa yg dicari...piramid melayu mungkin....atau harta qarun yg ditenggelamkan bumi  

maka semua pun hangguk2 sambil2 selit frasa yahudi dan nasroni cemburukan kejayaan ummah, melayu the chosen tribe dan sebagainya

kak_sue

Malaysia's deputy defence minister clarifies air control did not ask MH370 to turn back

  
  
KUALA LUMPUR - Malaysia's Deputy Defence Minister Datuk Abdul Rahim Bakri admitted he assumed that the Subang air traffic control had asked Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 to turn back, adding that his assumption was not accurate.

His comments added to the often confusing and contradictory statements made by Malaysian authorities over the Boeing 777 plane that went missing on March 8 with 239 people on board, Malaysian Insider reported on Thursday.

Mr Abdul Rahim had told parliament the day before that MH370 did a turn back probably because it received instructions from the Subang air traffic control.

"I want to clarify that it was just my assumption and one of the possibilities that could have happened,'' the news portal quoted him as saying.

"After making checks, I would like to stress that my assumption is not accurate," he said in a two-paragraph statement.

Malaysia has come under severe criticism after it was revealed that the military radar tracked an unidentified aircraft - now confirmed to be flight MH370 - but did not take any action.

After more than two weeks of searching for the aircraft, Prime Minister Najib Razak announced on March 24 that the flight had ended in the southern Indian Ocean, with MAS saying there could be no survivors.

Investigators are now trying to ascertain what brought MH370 to a remote area in the southern Indian Ocean, where search operation is currently focused.


PS: Itu la dah biasa kat parliament cakap suka suki... Ini issue international bukan issue national. Setiap perkataan yg di-keluarkan dunia akan soal....

annymous110

Muntz posted on 27-3-2014 07:47 PM
Maksud ko? Konspirasi Yahudi laknatullah Illuminati Amerika Freemason lagi punca segala insiden ni ...

konspirasi Yahudi tuh betul.

Illuminati Amerika Freemason..masalah nak jawab. sebab free thinker nih..semua org dia gila, budget diri sendiri tuhan.. pui