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[MERGED]Forum Majlis Peguam 'Memeluk Islam: Update-Kecoh: Salah K'jaan-Dr M
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Reply #793 blastoff's post
1. kenapa tidak boleh??? atas dasar keadilan utk rakyat, tentang rasuah dan memakmurkan negeri
2. Kenapa tak cuba dilaksanakan di Kelantan dahulu?? adakah DAP yg menghalangnya? Yakinla mereka menentang kerana tidak mendapat penjelasan.. malah propa UMNO sendiri tentang Hudud ( kalau Hudud nanti makan sup tgn) dll turut mempengaruhi mereka.. jadi jgn salahkan mereka semata2 kalau mereka "takut" pada Hukum Islam...
3. Seorang bukan Islam yg menentang rasuah bukan sebab dia belajar dari Al QUran dan Sunnah... tapi kebetualan ia selari dgn AL quran dan SUnnah... sama seperti negara kafir yg mengamalkan kebersihan seperti jepun... mereka bukan belajar dan Al Quran dan SUnnah... tapi perbuatan mereka itu selari dgn AL Quran dan Sunnah... dlm kata lain.. ada pendapat yg kata mereka melihat ISLAM dinegara2 bukan Islam... |
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Originally posted by Nicole at 10-8-2008 09:41 PM 
adess..... payah btoL hidup bawah ameno ni ... sket2 uGut nak ISA.... taw Ler ko nak beLa ketuanan meLayu... tp kene inGat jugak... mesia ni masyarakat majmuk... kene Ler be Fair to everyon ...
esok2 kalau PR memerintah pun.. ISA ni mesti ada lagi..atau mungkin ditukar namanye tapi fungsinye sama  |
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Reply #2 peYno's post
yg menjerit "ketuanan melayu" tu mmg memalukan pas & isle  |
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forum ni memula je aku pk ok sebab nak selesaikan konflik bidangkuasa mahkamah sivil dan syariah..
tapi bila pk lagi, macam ada yang tak kene jer.. kalau betul2 nak selesaikan konflik bidangkuasa mahkamah kenapa fokus hanya pada `memeluk Islam'? nampak nau ada benda yg tersirat.. patutnya tajuk yg sesuai `bertukar agama' sebab konflik bukan hanya akan berlaku kalau si suami sebuah keluarga masuk islam bahkan kalau bini keluar dari Islam jugak.. |
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Originally posted by eddysheddy at 10-8-2008 09:58 PM 
esok2 kalau PR memerintah pun.. ISA ni mesti ada lagi..atau mungkin ditukar namanye tapi fungsinye sama
brapa hengget nak bet?ada bran? |
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Originally posted by Nicole at 10-8-2008 10:33 PM
maksud ko sape tu..? kutty karaLa dah bersumpah nak membuanGkan diri ke neGara asinG.... bijan tuya aku rasa dah dok penjara kes bomb C4 .... pak Lah n menteri2 Len akan berdepan dgn kesa r ...
bila PR tak berlaku adil |
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prof mehrun siraj ni tak sensitif ke dgn Islam?
ni dah kira mencabar Islam nih...
㏕he Sun
by Husna Yusop
KUALA LUMPUR (Aug 10, 2008): Former Suhakam commissioner Dr Mehrun Siraj has urged Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi to amend the civil laws to resolve the conflicts between a Muslim convert and a non-converting spouse.
She said the lawyers had previously proposed that a section of the Law Reform (Marriage and Divorce) Act 1976 be amended, but to date, nothing has been done about it.
"I want to throw a challenge to the Prime Minister. Amend the law to show you are sincere about resolving the issue. And don抰 dolak dalik (be wishy washy) and pretend there are all kinds of reasons you can抰 do it.
"If you really want to resolve the issue, amend the constitution," she said after the abrupt end of the Bar Council抯 forum titled "Conversion to Islam: Article 121(1a) of the Federal Constitution: Subashini and Shamala Revisited" on Saturday.
The International Islamic University Malaysia adjunct professor, who attended the forum as she believed in open discussions, said the current law confines it only to non-Muslims, unless a divorce is applied for on the grounds of conversion to Islam by the party who does not convert.
"We can amend that section to say even the party who converts should be allowed to apply for divorce. That way, he or she can resolve matters with his or her non-Muslim family because when the (civil) court grants a divorce to the non-Muslim spouse, the court can also make orders for custody, maintenance, division of property and so on.
"As it is now, you can do this under the civil law, provided the non-Muslim spouse applied. But if you amend it to let the Muslim spouse to also apply, maybe he or she can then resolve issues with a non-Muslim spouse before entering into another marriage. That is what he or she should do.
"Islam does not condone the behaviour of abandoning your family. And certainly we, as Muslims, do not want anybody to make use of Islam to get out of their obligations. That would be wrong," she said.
Mehrun said when a divorce case between a Muslim convert and a non-converting spouse is brought to the syariah court, the non-Muslim would feel his or her rights were affected.
She said the issue is not about Islam as a religion but the laws which could be amended for the benefit of everyone.
"From the perspective of Islam, if we explain the right things to the non-Muslims, they would not be afraid or worried and will understand Islam better. But if we act harshly and rudely, like some of those who came to stop the forum, people will think this is what Islam is," she said.
Earlier, one of the demonstrators who claimed he represented Umno had told her off for being in the forum, saying she was conspiring with the organiser.
To this, she had said: "You represent Umno, I represent the Muslims. Muslims must act based on the Qur'an and Sunnah (sayings of the Prophet). We must behave well. Muslims must not be rude. I抦 ashamed of your behaviour. Islam does not condone this."
She told reporters the protestors had given Islam and Muslims a bad name and she felt very strongly about it as they were insulting her intelligence.
"He said if I sit down means I am supporting this. (The fact is) If you sit down it means you are listening and you can contribute and explain things to people. It does not necessarily mean you agree with any views that are posed on Islam," she added.
Mehrun also suggested that a section of the Selangor Administration of Muslim Law Enactment, which provides that the syariah court should not make any decisions that affect the rights of non-Muslims, to be applied to all states.
She said under the state enactment, the syariah court can reject a case if the conflict is between a Muslim and a non-Muslim spouse. Therefore, the couple should resolve any outstanding issues first before coming to the syariah court. |
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betul ke PKR akan ambil tindakan terhadap YB Zulkifli Nordin?
boleh ker dia pakai `baju' lain menghalang forum tu sedangkan dia ahli dan MP PKR?
KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 10 |
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ni kawan YB Zul dari DAP bagi komen:
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It takes the DAP younger member such as Petaling Jaya Utara MP Tony Pua to put in plain words of what he thinks of the whole situation.
Stating that the Bar Council is the most appropriate organisation to lead discussions on the Constitution and the laws of Malaysia was the Bar Council, he said it would make a complete mockery of our legal and judicial system if its very practitioners were denied opportunities to discuss or explain the laws.
He was also disappointed with the protest led by PKR's Kulim-Bandar Baharu MP Zulkifli Noordin, saying that the protest was not only misguided but also immature and unconstructive.
"If discussing our constitution and our laws is equivalent to "Islam-bashing", then he (Zulkifli) needs to have his head inspected. The forum did not create the "hoo-haa". It is "leaders" like him who fail to understand simple principles who mislead others into thinking that the whole world is against them.
"Well, it appears that this type of thuggish and loutish behaviour is unfortunately not only limited to Umno Youth," he added. |
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