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Dibawah adalah clinical test yang telah di kaji di Universiti Stanford, USA & juga badan kerajaa ...
Dr.Rakyat Post at 16-12-2011 02:24 
Dr,adik sy ada sakit SLE..Dia mula makan ubat pregsolon(sori kalu silap eja) dah lama dlm thn 1995 kalu tak silap..sekarang dh berkurang dr 12bj ke 2 bj..tp boleh ker kalu dia nk stop mkn pregsolon n menggantikan dgn produk dr ni..?Ini di sbbkan kesan pengambilan pregsolon itu sndiri spt tekanan drh tidak stabil,period yg lama dan pecah2 pada bdn spt stretchmark tp truk lg.Buat pengetahuan dr,SLE adik sy mnyerang pd bahagian buah pinggangnya.. |
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Reply 1# Dr.Rakyat
erti kata lain..sistem imunisasi tak elok la ye TT? |
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REAL Life Example / KISAH BENAR.........Actual Human Trial in Singapore................CLASSIF ...
Dr.Rakyat Post at 30-10-2011 11:45 
If you are a real doctor, you would not post these lab results of a patient of yours without censoring her name or details..
If you are a real doctor, you would understand the concept of confidentiality..
You say these crypto ppars/ algae are new treatment that can cure cancer etc..
But how come there are so many PPAR agonists in the healthcare system do not do anything to cancer?
For example, pioglitazone- a diabetes drug, is a ppar-gamma agonist, only good in diabetes..
Fenofibrate- a cholesterol tablet, ppar-alpha agonist.. Only helps with cholesterol isn't it?
You congested and shoved this thread with research papers that i don't think are related to what you are trying to convey at all...
To the laypeople, these might look intellectual, being backed up by so many papers.. They could be wowed by complex and new terms etc...
But, explain how these crypto ppars algae work pharmacologically.. Show us papers that these cheap tablets are superior than the like of 'imatinib' for example in treating cancer...
Why are these crypto algae is not in the BNF??
Yes i agree with you that cancer is caused by defective genes or chromosomes, so many ways these can happen..
But when someone has cancer , not all of the cells inside his or body have defective genes!!
So that's why in cancer treatment, you try to kill the defective cells... Surgery, radiotherapy
chemotherapy kills cancer cells as well as normal cells..that's why people can die from chemo..
Is crypto algae going to repair all the cells in the body or just the cancer cells?
How does it know which one to repair? |
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If you are a real doctor, you would not post these lab results of a patient of yours without cen ...
Arissa_Sofea Post at 19-12-2011 11:02
Dear Arissa Sofea,
Allow me to answer all your questions and doubt one by one as it takes time to breakdown every single mechanism for you to understand better in "LAYMAN" terms and i hope i can do it as layman as possible. This is because, IF u CARE to read every single report that i post in details and trying to solved the terms with a tools called "Medical Dictionary" you would not have ask some of the question that you just posted as i personally feel that intellectually you are more wiser and superior.
Why do i say that? well, frankly of all the question that some of the forumers had posted before, your posting are more constructive in terms of knowledge seeking and seeking for clarification INSTEAD of just storm-in and jump on conclusion that i'm CHEATING, trying to do SALES and what not, REMEMBER, selling a few bottle of this product DOESN'T made me a millionnaire.......and to those who are naive enough......you can CHEAT people some of the time, most of the time BUT unfortunately NOT all the time.
I'm glad that you ask those question because i believe it will help others to understand better as well. But frankly, you say that i shove info into the thread as if i'm wasting the bandwidth.......still the same answer, IF u care to read carefully, u will not have to ask the question......so, lets get to the question and your doubt one by one, shall we?? |
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Reply 164# Dr.Rakyat
If you are a real doctor, you would not post these lab results of a patient of yours without censoring her name or details..
If you are a real doctor, you would understand the concept of confidentiality..
Jawapan:
Yes, i do not have the consent when i first public her report, BUT i do have her consent now. She want us to share her suffering chemotheraphy stories with others as she believe that with PPARs she is able to make it and get her life back so she wanted others to know that Chemotheraphy is NOT the ONLY treatment available and there are other alternatives.
Yes, i do understand the clause of confidentiality and thats why i post in the report that i will take it out soon because i do not have consent during that time, but i do have the consent now.
***Who say real doctor will not publish lab results of the patients? IF results are not published for studies, analysis and findings, then what is the purpose of Medical journals & Clinical Trials report?***
You say these crypto ppars/ algae are new treatment that can cure cancer etc..
But how come there are so many PPAR agonists in the healthcare system do not do anything to cancer?
Jawapan:
I NEVER say that PPARS can CURE, of all the reports that i post, i ONLY say that its HELPS, EFFECTIVE, SHOW POSITIVE RESULTS, Its EFFICACY, Normalise and etc.......almost 2000 years of medical report and journals and experiment after experiment, eventough there are very CONCLUSIVE results until today it is an INDUSTRIAL practice that NO ONE can put the word "CURE" for their products, the most they only put "VACCINE".
***In this case, as pharmaceutical industry as an examples, there are many grey area which not ordinary people would foreseen the HIDDEN agenda as it is very much connected with POLITICAL factors***
let me give u a very good examples (i could be asasinate and sue for giving u this examples) but i think the public deserve to know the truth:
Years ago there is a disease call H1N1, believe it or not, it was a global economic conspiracy that orchasted by a pharmaceutical company.......they release the virus and let it spread and create panic in the world. Then they raise the whole situation into PANDEMIC level.....however in a short time of a few month, they say a "VACCINE" is now available!!!
more than 100 over countries around the world fork out hundreds of millions to stock up the "Vaccine" and the mathematic told us that the actual figures in total are more than a few Trillions.........NOW, tell me ......where is all the Vaccine now? SITTING IN THE STORE ROOM for NOTHING!!!
That's how pharmaceutical industry catch everybody by the balls! |
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Reply 165# Dr.Rakyat
But how come there are so many PPAR agonists in the healthcare system do not do anything to cancer?
Jawapan:
Let go LAYMAN.......try to walk into PRINCE COURT HOSPITAL or Gleneagles and etc........go to the ONCOLOGY department, find a SPECIALIST........then sit down with him as ask him the following question:
1. Have you heard of PPARs?
2. Do you know that in the US, UK, Germany and many other develop countries are researching and using PPARS modulator as a new therapy and anti-cancer strategy?
3. Why don't you use that in our hospital?
***Sad but true fact is -------------> Our doctors DOESN'T know about PPARS & our doctors are COMPLETELY OUT OF TOUCH with the latest medical technology!!!***
and why do i say so? in the european countries, DOCTORS are COMPULSORY to take exams every now and then to ENSURED that they are UP ON PAR with the latest development.............BUT sadly Malaysia doctors ONLY need to graduate ONCE and then all the trainings will be provided by PHARMACEUTICAL company on how to use their Drugs!...........its it sad???? ITS A FACT!
For example, pioglitazone- a diabetes drug, is a ppar-gamma agonist, only good in diabetes..
Fenofibrate- a cholesterol tablet, ppar-alpha agonist.. Only helps with cholesterol isn't it?
Jawapan:
I do not know whther u can understand but i promise to put it as layman as possible.
Now there is a HUGE different between "WHOLESOME" and "Single Isoform".
Wholesome = it contains everything that sustain life.....everything is INTER-CONNECTED. (inside an orange, besides vitamin C there are many others like oligosaccaride, fiber, phyto-chemical, pectin, beta-carotenes, beta-cryptoxanthin,zea-xanthinand lutein and many more.
Single Isoform = Singular substance, normally ISOLATED through extraction. (examples: vitamin C ONLY)
So the examples u posted above is from a PHARMACEUTICAL point of view where ISOLATED isoform are ONLY SPECIFICALLY TARGETED on a SPECIFIC TARGET which is Gamma for Diabetes & Alpha for Cholesterol.
As Wholesome point of view, when u ate an orange, the EFFECT of WHOLESOME will ALSO help other areas including Immune system (vit. C), OligoSaccaride (Diabetes), Fibre (colon), Lutein (eyes) and etc....
Hence, IF one is talking about health problem example like Hypertension, it is NOT necessary caused by food and etc.....high blood pressure can also be caused by PAIN do u know about that??
I hope u understand this PRE-LIMINARY examples. |
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Reply 166# Dr.Rakyat
You congested and shoved this thread with research papers that i don't think are related to what you are trying to convey at all...
Jawapan:
many people can claim wonders of their product, when as to show evidence, they are ONLY capable of posting "Testimonies".
Let me share with you are sad but true facts, if i put RM50,000 cash on the tablets there are thousands that will come forward to give their testimony....pictures with lubang in the kaki and what not? Gambar?? there are MILLIONS of those gambar from google image, do we actually know which one is which?
So, the best thing to all people is to HELP develop their MENTALITY and STANDARD, always go for the evidence because evidence cannot LIE.....and all evidence should be supported with REFERENCES so that people can find out more or even email and call to the respective research doctors or scientist.
***What i'm trying to convey is that MOST of our degenerative diseases comes from a defective genes and GENETIC is the ROOT cause of major health problem. All the reports that i post, IF u care to read carefully are all GENETICS related diseases and how PPARS regulates, activates and repair those defective genes.***
To the laypeople, these might look intellectual, being backed up by so many papers.. They could be wowed by complex and new terms etc...
Jawapan:
It is a fact that is it back-up by many papers and research, the complex and new terms will allow patients or their relative to STUDY more and UNDERSTAND better of their own diseases.
Do you know that 90% of the patient DON'T even understand about their own diseases and ONLY listen to doctors? what if those Doctors are wrong? doctors cannot be 100% right all the time right? further more understanding their own diseases will further help them to understand their condition better, dont u agree?
Never get cheat by doctor! there are procedures that do NOT require an operation BUT because of $$$ Operation is what the doctor tells u, the ONLY solution.
I'm here to contribute, to help and to advise, BUT if the moderator feels that i'm here to CHEAT or to LIED and my contribution is NOT need nor appreciated......just tell me and i will leave for good.....my intention is good BUT many attack me because they feel i'm a threat to their hidden agenda..... |
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Dr. Rakyat,
produk ni adakah sama seperti 4Life? |
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okay...saya dah beli pun crypto Ppars ni tadi...ada distrubutor hantar kat umah.. so saya akan cuba dulu and akan update kat sini any positive changes to my health condition. fyi im suffering from high bp and diabetes.. |
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Dr. Rakyat,
produk ni adakah sama seperti 4Life?
ummiammar Post at 19-12-2011 14:49
hampir sama tapi x serupa |
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okay...saya dah beli pun crypto Ppars ni tadi...ada distrubutor hantar kat umah.. so saya akan cuba ...
tintopten Post at 19-12-2011 14:54
bagus! nanti hapdate kat sini ye. tq |
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Doktor Rakyat.. sudah ok kah? Sudah boleh jwp soalan sy kah? Soalan sy kat m/s sebelah ye...
Ye, pada sape2 yg dah try test pandu uji, sila hapdet. |
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Dr,adik sy ada sakit SLE..Dia mula makan ubat pregsolon(sori kalu silap eja) dah lama dlm thn 19 ...
sara2511 Post at 16-12-2011 23:06
Dr x jwb soalan sy lg.. |
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Dr,adik sy ada sakit SLE..Dia mula makan ubat pregsolon(sori kalu silap eja) dah lama dlm thn 19 ...
sara2511 Post at 16-12-2011 23:06
Untuk maklumat lanjut mengenai aplikasi Crypto PPARS untuk SLE sila menghubungi pihak syarikat di talian 03-8076 5580, disana ada pakar2 yg akan memberi penjelasan and maklumat yg selanjutnya mengenai SLE & PPARs....harap dapat membantu |
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Reply Dr.Rakyat
erti kata lain..sistem imunisasi tak elok la ye TT?
popiarangup Post at 17-12-2011 14:05
Harap tuan2 dan puan2 jangan salah faham.....memang kita tidak boleh denied kepentingan Sistem immunisasi kita akan tetapi, apa yg saya ingin menerangkan ialah AKAR UMBI segala penyakit BERPUNCA dari Baka / Genetik kita.
Sistem imunisasi ini PENTING untuk membantu kita MENCEGAH penyakit JANGKITAN.......manakala Genetik pula adalah AKAR kepada segala penyakit yg mula di dalam badan kita.....
Harap tuan2 dan puan2 memahaminya...... |
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Dr. Rakyat,
produk ni adakah sama seperti 4Life?
ummiammar Post at 19-12-2011 14:49
JAUH sangat BEZA nya.......4Life masih berada di tahap selular............manakala Crypto PPARS berada di tahap baka / genetik. At least 15-20 years more advance...... |
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This is because, IF u CARE to read every single report that i post in details and trying to solved the terms with a tools called "Medical Dictionary" you would not have ask some of the question that you just posted
oh, please enlighten me with this 'medical dictionary'....saya budak baru belajar
Yes, i do not have the consent when i first public her report, BUT i do have her consent now. She want us to share her suffering chemotheraphy stories with others as she believe that with PPARs she is able to make it and get her life back so she wanted others to know that Chemotheraphy is NOT the ONLY treatment available and there are other alternatives.
Yes, i do understand the clause of confidentiality and thats why i post in the report that i will take it out soon because i do not have consent during that time, but i do have the consent now.
doen't matter if you got her consent or not...YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO POST A LAB RESULT WITH PATIENT'S NAME, AND DETAILS FOR PUBLIC VIEW..
Look at medical journals, case report etc...patients are referred as Mr X, Mrs J, Mrs K etc....
the name on the lab result should have been censored, at least the name should be blackened...now we all know 'Gunawati' has colorectal cancer with an elevated ca 19-9...
yeah all the medical research produce lab results...but they are all anonymous...it's supposed to be randomised and blinded.... |
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Hence, IF one is talking about health problem example like Hypertension, it is NOT necessary caused by food and etc.....high blood pressure can also be caused by PAIN do u know about that??
again with the belittling and patronising...oh how i don't know that pain can cause high blood pressure....please oh please enlighten me...
doesn't pain only cause transient elevated BP?? pain does not cause chronic hypertension..
yeah, i'm not disputing ppars modulators have a role in cancer etc...I can see the evidence based papers alright...
But not once does those papers mention 'crypto ppars'...
so answer me this...how does crypto algae works pahrmacologically and pathophysiologically?? explain the mechanism of absorption, metabolism, bioavailability, excretion etc...
where are papers showing comparison of crypto algae against other cancer drugs for example...you want to provide evidence based medicine, do it the right way, peer-review your products....
don't need to exert the effect of ppar...
so what if it has naturally (allegedly) occuring ppar agonists, (which I doubt)
ppar are receptors specifically made by human ribosomes...how come ppar agonist in algae be of use to human?
those ppar agonists like pioglitazone and fenofibrate have to be constructed by chemical labs...isn't it??
even if those algae have ppar agonists which suits human....those are proteins....once you ingest them, it will be broken down it human's gut to amino acids or smaller peptides....am I right?
unless, unless, it is specifically constructed to be absorbed without being broken down by the gut like pioglitazone or fenofibrate....
if it's really effective, we would have seen these crypto algae in hospital use by now for oncology patients....why not?
it's cheap, far cheaper than the likes of 'imatinib' or other chemo agents....who doesn't want cheap drugs??
you want me to ask oncologists?...yes I can ask them, indeed they are going to say ppar have some role in cancer....but i doubt they are going to say specifically 'crypto algae' can help improve cancer......
well, who am I to argue...Im not from that field...Im just a cardiology registrar.... |
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HI all
I baru balik dari jakarta and now just touch KLIA......i akan jawab soalan2 malam ni ya....blek klinik first. |
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Post time 16-12-2011 11:06 PM
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yelah.. katanye genetik repair. Kut lah boleh repair otak sy ni dari 1gb ke 16gb ke.. 
